Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

The south: Keeping stereotypes alive since 1865

Yeah, but the Gospel of John is the weirdo hippie one. You can't really look in there for anything more than feel-good passages.

Weaver95: Alabama state Sen. Shadrack McGill said that increasing teacher pay is against "a biblical principle" because it might attract people who otherwise wouldn't do the job.

I really don't trust anyone who says they're doing things according to 'biblical principal'.

Especially since public school itself goes against 'biblical principal', not that Christians really care about what their source book actually says.

This article doesn't mention it, but right after McGill said teachers don't deserve a raise because of the Bible, he said the recent 62% raise that the legislature voted for itself was completely justified, because it "protected legislators from corruption."

/he's SUCH a dumbass

SchlingFocker: NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just let homeless people teach? We can pay them in oatmeal and sterno. I think Jesus would have agreed.

Jesus was, himself, a homeless teacher.

A homeless, liberal teacher. a super-wealthy investment banker who pulled himself up by his own sandal-straps and lived in a mansion, and invented the shotgun so he could personally shoot everyone who opposed him in the face, but lost it to liberal gun control so he was crucified.

FTFRepublican Jesus™

xl5150: Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who care about their children's future and are not obsessed with wealth, teach, those that can't, join the military and vote Republican.

Ridiculous name. Ridiculous opinion.

Weaver95:
Alabama state Sen. Shadrack McGill said that increasing teacher pay is against "a biblical principle" because it might attract people who otherwise wouldn't do the job.

I really don't trust anyone who says they're doing things according to 'biblical principal'.

Especially when it's obvious they're just making things up and claiming they're "Biblical". It really gives an ugly insight into the religious fanatic's twisted mind.

Then again if you see how well these people teach their own children, it's no surprise they think teaching is a low-value profession.

intelligent comment below: xl5150: Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who care about their children's future and are not obsessed with wealth, teach, those that can't, join the military and vote Republican.

Teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than the general population, so you might have something there about them being concerned about the future of their own children. Too bad they aren't as concerned about the children they're paid to teach.

What's that? A Republican using the bible as an excuse to fark people over? I, for one, am shocked.

untaken_name: intelligent comment below: xl5150: Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who care about their children's future and are not obsessed with wealth, teach, those that can't, join the military and vote Republican.

Teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than the general population, so you might have something there about them being concerned about the future of their own children. Too bad they aren't as concerned about the children they're paid to teach.

Yes, I would imagine that was true since everyone that homeschools is by definition a teacher. I wouldn't think that *ACTUAL* teachers would homeschool, since they're busy, ya know, working.

I wondered what he became when he grew up.

untaken_name:
Teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than the general population, so you might have something there about them being concerned about the future of their own children. Too bad they aren't as concerned about the children they're paid to teach.

Except you aren't describing professional teachers at all. What next? Calling stay at home mom's "professional chefs?"

untaken_name: intelligent comment below: xl5150: Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who care about their children's future and are not obsessed with wealth, teach, those that can't, join the military and vote Republican.

Teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than the general population, so you might have something there about them being concerned about the future of their own children. Too bad they aren't as concerned about the children they're paid to teach.

Teachers homeschool at a higher rate because they have the skills to do it, and realize what republicans have done to public education in this country.

I'd do it except I'm, you know, teaching other people's kids during the day. As it is, I'm in the hell of knowing exactly what is going on and being unable to stop it from happening to my son.

AverageAmericanGuy: Yeah, but the Gospel of John is the weirdo hippie one. You can't really look in there for anything more than feel-good passages.

I take it you've never read Matthew.

It's not the teachers, it's the absolutely blithering idiots we keep electing to run the system.

It's called NO POLITICIAN LEFT BEHIND.

untaken_name: Weaver95: Alabama state Sen. Shadrack McGill said that increasing teacher pay is against "a biblical principle" because it might attract people who otherwise wouldn't do the job.

I really don't trust anyone who says they're doing things according to 'biblical principal'.

Especially since public school itself goes against 'biblical principal', not that Christians really care about what their source book actually says.

Source or troll?

Wow, a Fark thread where everyone agree...
First time I've seen this.
Noone is trying to troll?
Anyone?

Well shucks, ya'll know what we say down here. The turd doesn't fall far from the anus.

The flip side to this guy's Coin Of Stupid is, If they don't pay teachers enough, they're only going to attract people who can't do any better for themselves. And we shouldn't want that level of inability being in charge of our children.

Novel idea: Instead of weighing the benefits of the kind of people you would attract (you're in Alabama - you're already behind the 8 ball), weigh the importance of the job and the demands you place on the people who fill it.

Dipshiat.

On-Off: Wow, a Fark thread where everyone agree...
First time I've seen this.
Noone is trying to troll?
Anyone?

I considered it, but I just can't bring myself to play devil's advocate for this farkwit. This is twice in two days that I've read comments he's made that made me wonder how someone like this could hold an elected position in government.

He was voted in, right? It wasn't a bingo competition or something?

I can't even imagine how hellish it must be to be a teacher, and in Alabama of all places.

farkityfarker: I can't even imagine how hellish it must be to be a teacher, and in Alabama of all places.

Not if it held the last teaching job available in the country....

I'm really just sick to death of hearing these stupid farking turds.

tankjr: untaken_name: intelligent comment below: xl5150: Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who care about their children's future and are not obsessed with wealth, teach, those that can't, join the military and vote Republican.

Teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than the general population, so you might have something there about them being concerned about the future of their own children. Too bad they aren't as concerned about the children they're paid to teach.

Yes, I would imagine that was true since everyone that homeschools is by definition a teacher. I wouldn't think that *ACTUAL* teachers would homeschool, since they're busy, ya know, working.

Hurf derf. I'm sure everyone who cooks is a chef in your world, too. And I guess it shows just how "hard" they "work" that it is indeed a fact that public school teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than non-public-school-teachers. What you think doesn't determine reality. About 25% of homeschooled children have at least one certified teacher as a parent. Don't like that fact? Tell certified teachers to send their kids to public school like everyone else.

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Boondock3806: The flip side to this guy's Coin Of Stupid is, If they don't pay teachers enough, they're only going to attract people who can't do any better for themselves. And we shouldn't want that level of inability being in charge of our children.

Novel idea: Instead of weighing the benefits of the kind of people you would attract (you're in Alabama - you're already behind the 8 ball), weigh the importance of the job and the demands you place on the people who fill it.

Dipshiat.

yes yes and don't forget when you are weighing all this; about who pays for it and how they pay for it and all the other things they have to pay for. So as good as teachers are and I've had some great ones; the pay is second to the duty and for many the enjoyment of the job. But yes they should be compensated for the job in an equitable manner.

My problem is with the union leaders that negotiate deals in bad faith which robs from the taxpayer and gives only to the unions. The teachers are as much the victims of bad promises as the tax-payers...of whom many are a portion in their communities.

There is a fiduciary duty implied within all public service jobs...including teaching. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be well paid but it does mean that pay and benefits have to be negotiable...yes even downwards. It would be nice to be able to afford them six figure pay and the like...but except in a rare few cases it is not feasible.

thank you,

have a good morning.

On-Off: Wow, a Fark thread where everyone agree...
First time I've seen this.
Noone is trying to troll?
Anyone?

maybe later, after i scrape my eyebrows off the ceiling and pick my jaw up off the floor.

untaken_name: tankjr: untaken_name: intelligent comment below: xl5150: Well, you know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who care about their children's future and are not obsessed with wealth, teach, those that can't, join the military and vote Republican.

Teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than the general population, so you might have something there about them being concerned about the future of their own children. Too bad they aren't as concerned about the children they're paid to teach.

Yes, I would imagine that was true since everyone that homeschools is by definition a teacher. I wouldn't think that *ACTUAL* teachers would homeschool, since they're busy, ya know, working.

Hurf derf. I'm sure everyone who cooks is a chef in your world, too. And I guess it shows just how "hard" they "work" that it is indeed a fact that public school teachers homeschool at a higher percentage than non-public-school-teachers. What you think doesn't determine reality. About 25% of homeschooled children have at least one certified teacher as a parent. Don't like that fact? Tell certified teachers to send their kids to public school like everyone else.

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so what you're saying is 75% of people are getting unbelievably bad homeschooling?

This doesn't take into account that someone could be a certified teacher and completely crazy at the same time, as that's not exclusive. We're talking anything from religious fundamentlists to neonazis on that.

How can someone actually function with that much cognitive dissonance.