I can't imagine doing something at intricate and dedicated as doing surgery for 14.5 hours. I honestly wonder if they rotated a second team in halfway through. I couldn't play a video game that long and remain focused.

Dr. Kim said the esophagus transplant was the first in the world, but Alana waited a long time for the perfect match.

This is why we need to figure out how to grow organs.

I wonder if the cancer is caused by the presence of two large brass orbs where her genitalia should be.

/fight on, kid

Great for her love seeing kids give finger to cancer like I did when I was ten

smittler: Great for her love seeing kids give finger to cancer like I did when I was ten

that should be give the finger to cancer. I should not drink and Fark at the same time

What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

I hope the hero tag is for the Doctors.

The Asshole Guy: I hope the hero tag is for the Doctors.

She's got a lot of guts, I like that.

Maybe not her own guts, but a lot of guts nonetheless.

\\\ Aisle seat please, non-smoking.

Was she being tormented and teased by the neighbors?

JasonOfOrillia: Dr. Kim said the esophagus transplant was the first in the world, but Alana waited a long time for the perfect match.

This is why we need to figure out how to grow organs.

It would be a natural outgrowth (ha!) of life extension research. We should choose to do these things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

Quantum Apostrophe: JasonOfOrillia: Dr. Kim said the esophagus transplant was the first in the world, but Alana waited a long time for the perfect match.

This is why we need to figure out how to grow organs.

It would be a natural outgrowth (ha!) of life extension research. We should choose to do these things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

Jack? Is that you?

Once in awhile, we do something that's supposed to be impossible, and that makes us mighty.

Alright. Time to be a dick.

October 5th 2005 I got a kidney after having been on dialysis for two years. I have/had esrd / renal failure (alports syndrome) POINT IS... I have to jump hoops with meds just to make sure one single kidney doesn't reject. Now the REAL miracle will be if she can live even 5 years without one of those organs being targeted by her immune system or not being completely compromised that she could live a normal life.

Organ transplants for the most part are still just a temporary fix for about 5-10 years on avg.

So she has four fingers left?

olddinosaur: She's got a lot of guts, I like that.

Maybe not her own guts, but a lot of guts nonetheless.

\\\ Aisle seat please, non-smoking.

I thought the same thing.

Just remember that every piece "heroically" transplanted came from another alive human being. According to new brain scanning technology, there's about a 1/6 chance that the person being transplanted from is still in there and just unable to communicate.

There's also nothing heroic about being forced to do something scary / dangerous. I've survived months in the hospital - really nasty months - and don't feel particularly heroic. Heroism is having the option to run away and still holding your ground. Cancer is just heavily hyped because so many people have it and hype is good for donations.

And did I mention that conventional cancer treatment is almost entirely a crock? An extremely large percentage of "treated" patients are sick again within a few years. You get far better results with natural treatment using juiced vegetables and fruits, enemas, and if the situation is -really- bad, induced fevers. It may not be all fun and games either, but it's way better than chemo, and you come out healthier than you went in, rather than a shriveled, puking mess. People with terminal brain cancer, leukemia, etc. can even be treated this way, when conventional medicine has already given up on them. Ironically enough, the US is the ONLY country to ban doctors from prescribing this form of treatment, since drug companies essentially own the government. So people have to go to Mexico unless they want to do it themselves. And you can't get a refund from your insurance company even after you demonstrate a complete cure at 1/10 the cost of cancer treatment.

universebetween: Alright. Time to be a dick.

October 5th 2005 I got a kidney after having been on dialysis for two years. I have/had esrd / renal failure (alports syndrome) POINT IS... I have to jump hoops with meds just to make sure one single kidney doesn't reject. Now the REAL miracle will be if she can live even 5 years without one of those organs being targeted by her immune system or not being completely compromised that she could live a normal life.

Organ transplants for the most part are still just a temporary fix for about 5-10 years on avg.

Nah, you're just being a realist. I hope she beats the odds. In any case she's at least got a fighting chance now that she didn't before, with the side benefit of incrementally improving scientific knowledge of the procedure.

I thought subby meant this:



Damned finger cancer.

How many individuals with cancer in just one of those organs could have been saved if 6 transplantable organs hadn't gone to just one person?

I don't know if it's true or not but fark will donate 3 cents toward her treatment for each click on the "Smart" button on this post.

Inchoate: universebetween: Alright. Time to be a dick.

October 5th 2005 I got a kidney after having been on dialysis for two years. I have/had esrd / renal failure (alports syndrome) POINT IS... I have to jump hoops with meds just to make sure one single kidney doesn't reject. Now the REAL miracle will be if she can live even 5 years without one of those organs being targeted by her immune system or not being completely compromised that she could live a normal life.

Organ transplants for the most part are still just a temporary fix for about 5-10 years on avg.

Nah, you're just being a realist. I hope she beats the odds. In any case she's at least got a fighting chance now that she didn't before, with the side benefit of incrementally improving scientific knowledge of the procedure.

Stop being real. We all know it is in God's hands and he will choose if she lives or dies. He might need a new angel up in heaven so don't try to mess with his plan.

j0ndas: According to new brain scanning technology, there's about a 1/6 chance that the person being transplanted from is still in there and just unable to communicate.

Citation, please.

j0ndas: And did I mention that conventional cancer treatment is almost entirely a crock? An extremely large percentage of "treated" patients are sick again within a few years. You get far better results with natural treatment using juiced vegetables and fruits, enemas, and if the situation is -really- bad, induced fevers. It may not be all fun and games either, but it's way better than chemo, and you come out healthier than you went in, rather than a shriveled, puking mess. People with terminal brain cancer, leukemia, etc. can even be treated this way, when conventional medicine has already given up on them.

Watch where you're swinging that broad brush. "Cancer" encompasses a wide, wide range of diseases with similar underlying patterns, but significantly differing etiologies, prognoses and responses to treatment. Some cancers have treatments that are relatively straightforward and effective. Some do not, especially metastatic cancers or those which have many dramatically different subvarieties.

We are still learning. It's never a bad idea to eat well, stay fit, and maintain oneself, and there are many flaws in the mentality behind the treatment process and in the public-sector response to cancer.
That said, unless you're going to die anyway, totally throwing out medical science in favor of holistic woo is a fatally foolish idea.

6 organs to keep one girl alive.. or 6 organs to keep 6 people alive.. Sorry to sound like a dick, but a little perspective. It's not like organ transplant lists have a plethora of organs that just go to waste.

taurusowner: How many individuals with cancer in just one of those organs could have been saved if 6 transplantable organs hadn't gone to just one person?

Dude, that has to be the most small-minded, miserable post I've ever read.

j0ndas: People with terminal brain cancer, leukemia, etc. can even be treated this way, when conventional medicine has already given up on them.

statement is factually correct in that any disease CAN be treated that way, the fact that doing so will result in nearly 100% mortality rate is overlooked, due to derp.

I'm a giant pussy.

I'd start to think maybe Darwin was trying to tell me something.

just going to leave this here

/obligatory

It's dusty in here subby.

Cybernetic: And the organ donor. And the donor's family.

mamoru: And the donor family

I like comments like this. It makes me feel better because I decided to pull the plug on my mom and donate her organs. I hope whoever is out there with them is taking good care of them.

/love you mom

The daughter of some good friends of ours just came through her third brain tumor surgery with flying colors, the doctor thinks he was actually able to get all of it this time. The previous two times they knew they weren't able to do that. She starts her third round of chemo in 1 week. She's 15 months old.

It has been a hard road, hopefully they get past it this time.

/Time to hug my girls...

JasonOfOrillia: Dr. Kim said the esophagus transplant was the first in the world, but Alana waited a long time for the perfect match.

This is why we need to figure out how to grow organs.

They're working on it, so far I've seen lab grown bladders and trachea, the harder stuff to make will be things that have complex vascular systems like kidneys, livers, etc.

glad you are all happy. It is a happy outcome, and you should be happy to pay for it. This is what your high health costs pay for. The many healthy pay 1/5 of their income to assure that these kinds of treatments are possible.

You can just link to this thread when a health care premiums thread comes through fark. Then everyone can just shut up.

Bravo to the donor and the family of said! What a gracious donation! All those parts! Wonder if there is anything to "cell memory." The child may be (if you give credence to that stuff) overwhelmed by the donor's gift. I've read about folks who have had transplants who, after recovery--sometimes years later-- took on the tastes and habits of their donors. Hope the little kid's donor wasn't a total douche in life.

Inchoate: j0ndas: According to new brain scanning technology, there's about a 1/6 chance that the person being transplanted from is still in there and just unable to communicate.

Citation, please.

Because j0ndas appears to have fled the thread, and because I hadn't heard this one before, I went looking for the citation myself. All I found were a few actually scientific discussions of cellular types, their varying capacity for state memory, and their bodily distribution, scattered about like needles in a haystack of "qi transfer" and "yogic discipline" and mystical soul-science bullshiat. Topped off with anecdotal evidence (mostly uncited) of post-transplant personality changes that are Eerie Coincidences. Not very convincing.

A skeptic website collates most of the available claims and offers further cited links. (new window)

Be an organ donor. Give someone life.

dbaggins: glad you are all happy. It is a happy outcome, and you should be happy to pay for it. This is what your high health costs pay for. The many healthy pay 1/5 of their income to assure that these kinds of treatments are possible.

You can just link to this thread when a health care premiums thread comes through fark. Then everyone can just shut up.

Your username is 4 characters too long.

Inchoate: Your username is 4 characters too long.


medical treatment is expensive. Accept it. I do. I am happy for her.

j0ndas: Just remember that every piece "heroically" transplanted came from another alive human being. According to new brain scanning technology, there's about a 1/6 chance that the person being transplanted from is still in there and just unable to communicate.

There's also nothing heroic about being forced to do something scary / dangerous. I've survived months in the hospital - really nasty months - and don't feel particularly heroic. Heroism is having the option to run away and still holding your ground. Cancer is just heavily hyped because so many people have it and hype is good for donations.

And did I mention that conventional cancer treatment is almost entirely a crock? An extremely large percentage of "treated" patients are sick again within a few years. You get far better results with natural treatment using juiced vegetables and fruits, enemas, and if the situation is -really- bad, induced fevers. It may not be all fun and games either, but it's way better than chemo, and you come out healthier than you went in, rather than a shriveled, puking mess. People with terminal brain cancer, leukemia, etc. can even be treated this way, when conventional medicine has already given up on them. Ironically enough, the US is the ONLY country to ban doctors from prescribing this form of treatment, since drug companies essentially own the government. So people have to go to Mexico unless they want to do it themselves. And you can't get a refund from your insurance company even after you demonstrate a complete cure at 1/10 the cost of cancer treatment.

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dbaggins: Inchoate: Your username is 4 characters too long.


medical treatment is expensive. Accept it. I do. I am happy for her.

If you were about to be dead you would cry like a biatch to keep your ass alive. Sorry man but at least be honest.

BDR459: If you were about to be dead you would cry like a biatch to keep your ass alive. Sorry man but at least be honest.

where did I say I opposed this treatment ? for her or myself ?

j0ndas: Just remember that every piece "heroically" transplanted came from another alive human being. According to new brain scanning technology, there's about a 1/6 chance that the person being transplanted from is still in there and just unable to communicate.

There's also nothing heroic about being forced to do something scary / dangerous. I've survived months in the hospital - really nasty months - and don't feel particularly heroic. Heroism is having the option to run away and still holding your ground. Cancer is just heavily hyped because so many people have it and hype is good for donations.

And did I mention that conventional cancer treatment is almost entirely a crock? An extremely large percentage of "treated" patients are sick again within a few years. You get far better results with natural treatment using juiced vegetables and fruits, enemas, and if the situation is -really- bad, induced fevers. It may not be all fun and games either, but it's way better than chemo, and you come out healthier than you went in, rather than a shriveled, puking mess. People with terminal brain cancer, leukemia, etc. can even be treated this way, when conventional medicine has already given up on them. Ironically enough, the US is the ONLY country to ban doctors from prescribing this form of treatment, since drug companies essentially own the government. So people have to go to Mexico unless they want to do it themselves. And you can't get a refund from your insurance company even after you demonstrate a complete cure at 1/10 the cost of cancer treatment.



Stick with real medicine. It actually works, unlike the crap you're promoting.

Not to be a dick, but ask a nine-year-old to circle the most terrifying thing in the world:

cancer

spider clowns