He added that the U.S. government provides "a very ample safety" for low-income Americans through Medicaid, federal housing vouchers, food stamps and the earned income tax credit. "We have a number of ways of helping the poor. . . . The area that I think is the greatest challenge that the country faces right now is not to focus our effort on how we help the poor, as much as to focus our effort on how to help the middle class in America, and get more people in the middle class, and get people out of being poor and becoming middle income."

Romney fails to mention that he supports policies that will cut or eliminate many of those programs.

Umm. Why would someone think they guy that helped bankrupt companies would care about poor people?

I just wanna set the record straight:

I thought the cop was a prostitute.

/smug look of satisfaction on a job well done

So you Republicans think this vulture capitalist gaffe machine is "electable?"

Methinks some righties are gonna have the buyer's remorse.

"If there's holes I'll fix them" = I'll do nothing...

God damn, you know... You people are quite retarded.

Rain-Monkey: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

~ Stephen Colbert

Ya know, I like Colbert, but if he thinks that we can't help the poor without the government getting involved, he's an idiot.

Rain-Monkey: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

~ Stephen Colbert

What if we want to be a Mormon nation that doesn't help the poor?

Truly the people's candidate.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Would that be last weeks position or this weeks?

It depends what do the people think in the next state for an election.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I just wanna set the record straight:

I thought the cop was a prostitute.

/smug look of satisfaction on a job well done

Best. Line. Ever.

So far we have:

I'm not concerned about the very poor.
I said I'm not concerned about the very poor.
I didn't inherit.
I'll bet you $10,000
I didn't make much money (only 375K) from speaking fees last year.
I'm unemployed

I can only imagine what's still to come if his handlers don't train him to hold his tongue.

DrPainMD: Rain-Monkey: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

~ Stephen Colbert

Ya know, I like Colbert, but if he thinks that we can't help the poor without the government getting involved, he's an idiot.

So it's totally cool for people to talk about how people are poor because they don't try enough and thus not worth our help? Or cool to celebrate wealth but look at the poor as sinful?

How are these idiots even considered viable candidates anymore? Every time they open their pieholes they say something even stupider than the previous dreck that spewed from their mouths. Unbelievable.

DrPainMD: Rain-Monkey: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

~ Stephen Colbert

Ya know, I like Colbert, but if he thinks that we can't help the poor without the government getting involved, he's an idiot.

Sure you can.

If you and the other good Christians make a pledge to help the poor the same amount we have in government welfare now, Me and I bet many other other liberals will stand up to remove welfare.

Got a deal? Are you and your other friends who don't believe in government helping the poor willing to step up to the plate to fund private programs?

I am guessing it's a no... So then I guess we need the government to be involved then.

DrPainMD: Rain-Monkey: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

~ Stephen Colbert

Ya know, I like Colbert, but if he thinks that we can't help the poor without the government getting involved, he's an idiot.

In a country this big, diverse, and reletively sparsely populated the poor can't be helped with out Government help. (see West Virginia prior to the 60's.)

You know, the middle class is certainly farked. And shrinking. And expanding it is a laudable goal, and paying lip service to that goal is just more politician bullshiat but at least it's laudable politician bullshiat insomuch as such a thing is possible. Bless his heart, he's really trying to sound like a nice guy isn't he?

/apparently couldn't learn to pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel

today in MN, Mitt professed his desire to help those that Obama has completely forgotten - the families who struggle daily to make ends meet

Corvus: If you and the other good Christians make a pledge to help the poor the same amount we have in government welfare now, Me and I bet many other other liberals will stand up to remove welfare.

Got a deal? Are you and your other friends who don't believe in government helping the poor willing to step up to the plate to fund private programs?


Also, keep in mind that most Christian charity is very selective about whom it helps. They are free to discriminate on any bases they wish.

GAT_00: Ah, he's back to the standard Republican position.

At least he's being honest.

DrPainMD: Ya know, I like Colbert, but if he thinks that we can't help the poor without the government getting involved, he's an idiot.

Who is helping the poor that isn't the government? We're just gonna rely on charities to do it, right? Maybe Churches too?!

That's worked out so well in the past.

strapp3r: today in MN, Mitt professed his desire to help those that Obama has completely forgotten - the families who struggle daily to make ends meet

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And he'll help them by gutting the social safety net and giving tax cuts to the rich.

Mugato: but the focus of my effort will be on middle-income families who I think have been most hurt by the Obama economy."

Middle income being millionaires but not multi-millionaires.

And Obama's economy? Really?

Dude, Hannity started calling it 'The Obama Recession' the day after the election. So yes, really.

NO no no, he's going to fix the holes in the net. Presumably by further gutting SS, defunding medicaid, and deregulation healthcare to let the free market fix it all.

You know, because Obama care is TOTALLY different from Romney Care, and is bad medicine, and bad economics, and bad policy, and that nice polite uppity man in the white house is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD.

Stile4aly: strapp3r: today in MN, Mitt professed his desire to help those that Obama has completely forgotten - the families who struggle daily to make ends meet

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And he'll help them by gutting the social safety net and giving tax cuts to the rich.

If he really cares he'll eliminate the minimum wage and labor laws to extra help the poor.

max_pooper: Stile4aly: strapp3r: today in MN, Mitt professed his desire to help those that Obama has completely forgotten - the families who struggle daily to make ends meet

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And he'll help them by gutting the social safety net and giving tax cuts to the rich.

If he really cares he'll eliminate the minimum wage and labor laws to extra help the poor.

Oh I forgot, he'll also raise their taxes so they have a skin in the game. That will really help.

Gulper Eel: Corvus: If you and the other good Christians make a pledge to help the poor the same amount we have in government welfare now

Do we get to keep the same amount that governments piss away in waste and fraud and bloat and jobs for campaign contributors' idiot offspring?

How much of the federal budget do you think that is?

Pull a number out of your ass, if you please.

is everyone so mad because he admitted what everyone is already thinking but we can't say out loud or else we look callous?

GAT_00: Given that this is Romney, how can you tell?

Can you believe in any flavor of Romney that gives a shiat about the poor?

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: NO no no, he's going to fix the holes in the net. Presumably by further gutting SS, defunding medicaid, and deregulation healthcare to let the free market fix it all.

You know, because Obama care is TOTALLY different from Romney Care, and is bad medicine, and bad economics, and bad policy, and that nice polite uppity man in the white house is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD.

Shall we repeat this comment? OK

DrPainMD: Rain-Monkey: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we've got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

~ Stephen Colbert

Ya know, I like Colbert, but if he thinks that we can't help the poor without the government getting involved, he's an idiot.

The Lord Thy God, and Christ's great great great (etc.) grandpappy, David, would like a word with you. Here is David's psalm requesting that King Solomon rule in a godly manner. Important passages highlighted in bold:

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1 Endow the king with your justice, O God,
the royal son with your righteousness.
2 May he judge your people in righteousness,
your afflicted ones with justice.

3 May the mountains bring prosperity to the people,
the hills the fruit of righteousness.
4 May he defend the afflicted among the people
and save the children of the needy;
may he crush the oppressor.
5 May he endure[a] as long as the sun,
as long as the moon, through all generations.
6 May he be like rain falling on a mown field,
like showers watering the earth.
7 In his days may the righteous flourish
and prosperity abound till the moon is no more.

8 May he rule from sea to sea
and from the River to the ends of the earth.
9 May the desert tribes bow before him
and his enemies lick the dust.
10 May the kings of Tarshish and of distant shores
bring tribute to him.
May the kings of Sheba and Seba
present him gifts.
11 May all kings bow down to him
and all nations serve him.

12 For he will deliver the needy who cry out,
the afflicted who have no one to help.
13 He will take pity on the weak and the needy
and save the needy from death.
14 He will rescue them from oppression and violence,
for precious is their blood in his sight.

15 Long may he live!
May gold from Sheba be given him.
May people ever pray for him
and bless him all day long.
16 May grain abound throughout the land;
on the tops of the hills may it sway.
May the crops flourish like Lebanon
and thrive[c] like the grass of the field.
17 May his name endure forever;
may it continue as long as the sun.

Then all nations will be blessed through him,[d]
and they will call him blessed.

18 Praise be to the LORD God, the God of Israel,
who alone does marvelous deeds.
19 Praise be to his glorious name forever;
may the whole earth be filled with his glory.
Amen and Amen.

20 This concludes the prayers of David son of Jesse.

Now in the psalm, the inspired word of God himself calls for government action to help the poor. The inspired word of God says government action to help the poor is part of a king's "just" and "righteous" rule.

You can be either a Christian, or a Republican. You cannot be both. You cannot serve both God and Mammon.