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Ranger Joe
2012-02-01 11:26:19 AM
FTFA...
NAUSEOUS: Contrary to almost ubiquitous misuse, to be "nauseous" doesn't mean you've been sickened: it actually means you possess the ability to produce nausea in others. e.g., That week-old hot dog is nauseous. When you find yourself disgusted or made ill by a nauseating agent, you are actually "nauseated." e.g.,
I was nauseated after falling into that dumpster behind the Planned Parenthood
. Stop embarrassing yourself.
DammitIForgotMyLogin
2012-02-01 11:29:58 AM
Ranger Joe
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FTFA...
NAUSEOUS: Contrary to almost ubiquitous misuse, to be "nauseous" doesn't mean you've been sickened: it actually means you possess the ability to produce nausea in others.
FTF
Dictionary:
nau·seous
1. affected with nausea; nauseated: to feel nauseous.
2. causing nausea; sickening; nauseating.
3. disgusting; loathsome: a nauseous display of greed.
b0rscht
2012-02-01 11:34:39 AM
I take issue with the moot point... point. 1st google link (wiktionary) says:
1. An issue that is subject to, or open for discussion or debate; originally, one to be definitively determined by an assembly of the people.
2.
(US) An issue regarded as potentially debatable, but no longer practically applicable.
Although the idea may still be worth debating and exploring academically, and such discussion may be useful for addressing similar issues in the future, the idea has been rendered irrelevant for the present issue.
Until we rebuild downtown, whether we build more parking spaces is a moot point.
So unless you're a toffee-nosed wanker, US definition holds.
America, FARK YEAH.
DammitIForgotMyLogin
2012-02-01 11:36:22 AM
/oblig.
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
2012-02-01 11:37:30 AM
I'd rather be a grammar Nazi then be peed on.
Gecko Gingrich
2012-02-01 11:40:19 AM
DammitIForgotMyLogin
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[imgs.xkcd.com image 340x423]
/oblig.
The effects of the war affected Sgt. Smith such that he had a rather gloomy affect, effecting his decision to seek a Psychiatrist's help.
miss diminutive
2012-02-01 11:46:17 AM
Contrary to common misuse, "moot" doesn't imply something is superfluous. It means a subject is disputable or open to discussion. e.g., The idea that commercial zoning should be allowed in the residential neighborhood was a moot point for the council.
Great, just great. I've been using it incorrectly forever.
You failed me grammar nazis, YOU FAILED ME!
ThrnPhl
2012-02-01 11:59:19 AM
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/moot:
Usage Note: The adjective moot is originally a legal term going back to the mid-16th century. It derives from the noun moot, in its sense of a hypothetical case argued as an exercise by law students. Consequently, a moot question is one that is arguable or open to debate. But in the mid-19th century people also began to look at the hypothetical side of moot as its essential meaning, and they started to use the word to mean "of no significance or relevance." Thus, a moot point, however debatable, is one that has no practical value. A number of critics have objected to this use, but 59 percent of the Usage Panel accepts it in the sentence The nominee himself chastised the White House for failing to do more to support him, but his concerns became moot when a number of Republicans announced that they, too, would oppose the nomination. When using moot one should be sure that the context makes clear which sense is meant.
AlwaysRightBoy
2012-02-01 11:59:55 AM
This is why I have a proof reading department.
/still doesn't help with my grammer
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
2012-02-01 12:05:51 PM
ThrnPhl
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From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/moot:
Usage Note: The adjective moot is originally a legal term going back to the mid-16th century. It derives from the noun moot, in its sense of a hypothetical case argued as an exercise by law students. Consequently, a moot question is one that is arguable or open to debate. But in the mid-19th century people also began to look at the hypothetical side of moot as its essential meaning, and they started to use the word to mean "of no significance or relevance." Thus, a moot point, however debatable, is one that has no practical value. A number of critics have objected to this use, but 59 percent of the Usage Panel accepts it in the sentence The nominee himself chastised the White House for failing to do more to support him, but his concerns became moot when a number of Republicans announced that they, too, would oppose the nomination. When using moot one should be sure that the context makes clear which sense is meant.
Indeed. Moot is one of two words in the English language that means itself and its opposite.
The other one is "cleave".
Eddie Adams from Torrance
2012-02-01 12:12:07 PM
I could care less. It's a mute point really. Irregardless of any gramatic wrongnesses, your just being unflexible and obtuse. If anyone writes an ungrammatical sentence, as long that the affect is that the writer is making sure they know who is their readers, whats the matter?
Gecko Gingrich
2012-02-01 12:12:52 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
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The other one is "cleave".
How about "shell", as verb?
Gordian Cipher
2012-02-01 12:19:11 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance
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I could care less. It's a mute point really. Irregardless of any gramatic wrongnesses, your just being unflexible and obtuse. If anyone writes an ungrammatical sentence, as long that the affect is that the writer is making sure they know who is their readers, whats the matter?
That was impactful.
mitchcumstein1
2012-02-01 12:49:12 PM
b0rscht
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I take issue with the moot point... point. 1st google link (wiktionary) says:
It's moo, like a cow's opinion.
Pocket Ninja
2012-02-01 12:56:22 PM
A few corrections:
Who and Whom
Whom is just a more formal version of who. It's like "usted" and "tu" in spanish.
Which and That
Which is for questions, that is for answers. Ex: "Which piece of candy do you want?" "That one."
Lay and Lie
Lay refers to what you're trying to get that woman at the bar to do with you. Lie refers to what you do to get her to do it.
Moot
Nobody you should take seriously will ever use this word.
Envy and Jealousy
Don't matter unless the person has a knife or gun.
Nor
Is simply an abbreviation for "north," ie, "Nor'easter."
May and Might, Whether and If
Are really only dangerous when uttered by women.
Irony and Coincidence
"Coincidence" is what happens when somebody happens to choose the "ironic" tag on Fark for something that actually contains irony.
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
2012-02-01 01:06:07 PM
Gecko Gingrich
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Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The other one is "cleave".
How about "shell", as verb?
Can you use it in a sentence?
dittybopper
2012-02-01 01:06:14 PM
Grammar Nazis
.
RocketRod
2012-02-01 01:14:00 PM
Irregardless.
dahmers love zombie
2012-02-01 01:21:45 PM
Pocket Ninja
:
A few corrections:
Who and Whom
Whom is just a more formal version of who. It's like "usted" and "tu" in spanish.
Which and That
Which is for questions, that is for answers. Ex: "Which piece of candy do you want?" "That one."
Lay and Lie
Lay refers to what you're trying to get that woman at the bar to do with you. Lie refers to what you do to get her to do it.
Moot
Nobody you should take seriously will ever use this word.
Envy and Jealousy
Don't matter unless the person has a knife or gun.
Nor
Is simply an abbreviation for "north," ie, "Nor'easter."
May and Might, Whether and If
Are really only dangerous when uttered by women.
Irony and Coincidence
"Coincidence" is what happens when somebody happens to choose the "ironic" tag on Fark for something that actually contains irony.
Yes, there's a reason you're favorited in a nice pretty shade of green.
Humean_Nature
2012-02-01 01:27:38 PM
Pocket Ninja
:
A few corrections:
I love you.
wiredroach
2012-02-01 01:31:45 PM
DammitIForgotMyLogin
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Ranger Joe: FTFA...
NAUSEOUS: Contrary to almost ubiquitous misuse, to be "nauseous" doesn't mean you've been sickened: it actually means you possess the ability to produce nausea in others.
FTF Dictionary:
nau·seous
1. affected with nausea; nauseated: to feel nauseous.
2. causing nausea; sickening; nauseating.
3. disgusting; loathsome: a nauseous display of greed.
Descriptionist web dictionaries tend not to be terribly authoritative for these types of debates. The article is correct, even if everyone on the planet uses the word to indicate Meaning 1.
Chariset
2012-02-01 01:33:59 PM
I always heard "moot" to mean "off the table, no longer up for discussion." A "moot point" isn't worth arguing over because it's already settled.
I agree on nauseous/nauseated, though.
downstairs
2012-02-01 01:42:32 PM
Chariset
:
I always heard "moot" to mean "off the table, no longer up for discussion." A "moot point" isn't worth arguing over because it's already settled.
I agree, but its more like a moot point isn't worth arguing because no one will be convinced either way. A deadlock. And the dictionary agrees.
Arguing the existence of God is a moot point.
brigid_fitch
2012-02-01 01:45:32 PM
Weird Al
(new window) is always around to remind you about the less/fewer debate.
cmunic8r99
2012-02-01 01:47:05 PM
Speak for yourself, subby.
2wolves
2012-02-01 01:58:04 PM
Insensitive porpoises.
Relatively Obscure
2012-02-01 02:00:35 PM
Pocket Ninja
:
A few corrections:
My God, it's beautiful.
simplicimus
2012-02-01 02:03:44 PM
I'm clear on who being nominative, and whom being the direct object, but it's seem that who is also popularly used for the indirect object.
GGracie
2012-02-01 02:04:31 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
:
I'd rather be a grammar Nazi then be peed on.
Urinated
unyon
2012-02-01 02:05:48 PM
miss diminutive
:
Irony and Coincidence
"Coincidence" is what happens when somebody happens to choose the "ironic" tag on Fark for something that actually contains irony.
And you pointing it out is ironic. I think there's some dividing by zero going on here.
unyon
2012-02-01 02:06:58 PM
unyon
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miss diminutive: Irony and Coincidence
"Coincidence" is what happens when somebody happens to choose the "ironic" tag on Fark for something that actually contains irony.
And you pointing it out is ironic. I think there's some dividing by zero going on here.
That should have actually been quoting Pocket Ninja. That I included miss diminutive is moot.
FloydA
2012-02-01 02:08:23 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
:
Indeed. Moot is one of two words in the English language that means itself and its opposite.
The other one is "cleave".
With: Alongside/against.
During WWII, The US fought with the British. The US and Britain fought with the Nazis.
Transparent: invisible/visible.
This window is so clean, it is transparent. This administration will be the most transparent in history.
Garnish: enhance/subtract.
I added a garnish of parsley. The IRS decided to garnish my wages.
Left: Remaining/departed.
I'm the only person left at the party. John left the party.
A list of Contronyms
(new window)
dletter
2012-02-01 02:08:29 PM
The Article is Moot
DanZero
2012-02-01 02:13:14 PM
In other news today, Fark.com thread 6915639 was handled by a joint task force between the Grammar Police and Irony Police...
Sybarite
2012-02-01 02:15:41 PM
Fewer and Less
There are grocery stores all over the country bearing this syntactical snafu: "Express checkout lane: ten items or less." It's wrong. "Less" is reserved for hypothetical quantities. "Few" and "fewer" are for things you can quantify. e.g., The firm has fewer than ten employees. e.g., The firm is less successful now that we have only ten employees.
That prescriptive rule drives me crazy. There's no reason for it. Less was used for counting for hundreds of years before Robert Baker came along in 1770 and wrote that fewer appears more "elegant" in certain cases. Further down the line, someone decides that suggestion means there is now a hard line in the English language between less and fewer in perpetuity. Yes, there are clearly cases where fewer is more appropriate, but there's no reason not to let common sense be your guide. "Twelve items or less" and "fifty words or less" are perfectly clear and require no correction. It's as bad as people claiming you can never end a sentence with a preposition.
Cyberluddite
2012-02-01 02:32:14 PM
Which and That
This is one of the most common mistakes out there, and understandably so. "That" is a restrictive pronoun. It's vital to the noun to which it's referring. e.g., I don't trust fruits and vegetables that aren't organic. Here, I'm referring to all non-organic fruits or vegetables. In other words, I only trust fruits and vegetables that are organic. "Which" introduces a relative clause. It allows qualifiers that may not be essential. e.g., I recommend you eat only organic fruits and vegetables, which are available in area grocery stores. In this case, you don't have to go to a specific grocery store to obtain organic fruits and vegetables. "Which" qualifies, "that" restricts. "Which" is more ambiguous however, and by virtue of its meaning is flexible enough to be used in many restrictive clauses. e.g., The house, which is burning, is mine. e.g., The house that is burning is mine.
Or to state it much more succinctly, in a way that the average person can
actually remember
but is still correct 99% of the time:
If the word immediately follows a comma, the correct word is almost always "which." If the word doesn't immediately follow a comma, the correct word is almost always "that."
Grables'Daughter
2012-02-01 02:35:36 PM
Your a idiot.
jaylectricity
2012-02-01 02:41:36 PM
Sybarite
:
It's as bad as people claiming you can never end a sentence with a preposition.
Where'd you hear that at?
vudukungfu
2012-02-01 02:42:38 PM
Printed this in large font and gave it to my boss, who's always complaining he screws these two up.
"
Affect and Effect
Here's a trick to help you remember: "Affect" is almost always a verb, and "effect" is almost always a noun. e.g., Facebook affects people's attention spans, and the effect is usually negative. "Affect" means to influence or produce an impression - to cause hence, an effect. "Effect" is the thing produced by the affecting agent; it describes the result or outcome. There are some exceptions. "Effect" may be used as a transitive verb, which means to bring about or make happen. e.g., My new computer effected a much-needed transition from magazines to Web porn. There are similarly rare examples where "affect" can be a noun. e.g., His lack of affect made him seem like a shallow person.
He was happy to get it and taped it up in his office next to the PC, where he will ingore it, like a boss, until the visitng VP asks him about it next month.
Does that make me a bad person?
miss diminutive
2012-02-01 02:48:33 PM
unyon
:
unyon: miss diminutive: Irony and Coincidence
"Coincidence" is what happens when somebody happens to choose the "ironic" tag on Fark for something that actually contains irony.
And you pointing it out is ironic. I think there's some dividing by zero going on here.
That should have actually been quoting Pocket Ninja. That I included miss diminutive is moot.
Being mistaken for
Pocket Ninja
? I'll take that as a complement.
Chariset
2012-02-01 02:49:58 PM
vudukungfu
:
Does that make me a bad person?
You're on TotalFark. The answer should be obvious.
SnarfVader
2012-02-01 02:56:18 PM
I did Nazi that coming.
/Oh c'mon. I'm the first with this?
DamnYankees
2012-02-01 02:57:51 PM
Words mean what people think they mean. It's really that simple.
bikerbob59
2012-02-01 03:12:43 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
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I'd rather be a grammar Nazi then be peed on.
Don't you mean 'than' be peed on? Unless you like to be peed on, of course.
Paris1127
2012-02-01 03:13:36 PM
20 common grammar mistake's even the grammar nazi's get wrong
FTFY
Subs
/what? Aren't Grammar Nazis allowed to have fun?
Porous Horace
2012-02-01 03:17:19 PM
Saying "flerb" when what you realy mean is "hayoup".
/pet peeve
JackieRabbit
2012-02-01 03:17:27 PM
I don't think almost everyone makes these mistakes. Those who were actually required to master grammar in school would only make these mistakes in casual conversation. However, the amount of grammar kids lear today is a joke, so these errors will eventually become standard American English, just as the nonsense word "gotten" is now commonly used and considered correct; it's even in the American English dictionaries, though many note that it is considered vulgar.
Egoy3k
2012-02-01 03:17:48 PM
Pocket Ninja
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A few corrections:
A+ would LOL again
DGS
2012-02-01 03:18:13 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance
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I could care less. It's a mute point really. Irregardless of any gramatic wrongnesses, your just being unflexible and obtuse. If anyone writes an ungrammatical sentence, as long that the affect is that the writer is making sure they know who is their readers, whats the matter?
I hate you.
/or, at least, I hated reading that.
OgreMagi
2012-02-01 03:18:20 PM
Pocket Ninja
:
May and Might, Whether and If
Are really only dangerous when uttered by women.
Now that is funny.
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