DjangoStonereaver: All he has ever done in his 'brilliant career' is to take other people's characters
and put them in hypersexualized situations.

Supreme, Top Ten and Tom Strong would like a word. I'd throw in Promethea, but...yeah.

Finally

simplicimus: JerseyTim: Yeah, because if there's one thing Watchmen needed more of, it's backstory.

They could expand on the Minutemen. Maybe the adventures of dr Manhattan and the Comedian in Vietnam. Some of Night Owl and Rorschach. But yeah, not a lot of territory not covered in the original.

The only thing that could possibly accomplish is watering down the original work. There are very few works where a prequel, especially one NOT done by the original author, do anything but that.

Star Wars EU is the most notably exception.

simplicimus: JerseyTim: Yeah, because if there's one thing Watchmen needed more of, it's backstory.

They could expand on the Minutemen. Maybe the adventures of dr Manhattan and the Comedian in Vietnam. Some of Night Owl and Rorschach. But yeah, not a lot of territory not covered in the original.


I'd be interested in more of the minor characters from the 40/50's,
Dollar Bill... Silhouette... Moloch...
a 'the tick' like world filled with amateur superheros, but serious instead of comedy.

Darth_Lukecash: L[e]vitz also was worried that Watchmens story was too much like an old Outer Limits episode, Moore responded "well I haven't wrote it yet in my stories"

JerseyTim: Yeah, because if there's one thing Watchmen needed more of, it's backstory.

This.

Rev. Skarekroe: That said, he's obsessed with rape, incest, and pedophilia to the point where he can no longer write stories without at least one of those elements. It's sad.

Kind of like how Frank Miller can't write a female character without making her a sex object or Rob Liefield can't draw a person with proper anatomy.

I always considered this a companion piece.

It must be that none of you are reading TFA. How else can I explain the fact that no one has referenced this pic yet?



/penis

I don't get the Watchmen love. I've read it numerous times, and yes, it is good, but it has gotten waaaay overrated the past few years.

/like a lot of Moore's stuff, really

PullItOut: It must be that none of you are reading TFA. How else can I explain the fact that no one has referenced this pic yet?

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/blue penis

FTFY

Well, yeah. Moore is the greatest comics writer ever and one of the better writers alive. He can use other characters because he's shown he can work with source material -- starting back with what, the complete re-imagining of Swamp Thing (I'm no comic book nerd, so, I'm probably way off)?

"DC" can't reboot/prequel Watchmen because that's a classic and whoever they hire will not be on Moore's level.

Forgot to add: you know it will suck because the cover they showed relies entirely on shock/sex to make its point, instead of character or story or whatever. "Comedian in a gimp mask" is to Watchmen what ice on the nipples is to legitimate theater, or something.

This is a bad idea, but not surprising. Watchmen was perfect, we dont ever need any other stories with these characters.

JoePiscopoJr.: This is a bad idea, but not surprising. Watchmen was perfect, we dont ever need any other stories with these characters.

I have to say, I think there was one change in the movie that made a better impact than the comic. The monster. Framing Dr. Manhattan the way he did seemed to fit the story better.

FirstNationalBastard: Rob Liefeld

You know, I always thought Rorschach was missing something. I just realized what it was: 11 different muscles in each calf, and about 86 pouches on that overcoat. And you never get to see his feet.

DjangoStonereaver:
All he has ever done in his 'brilliant career' is to take other people's characters
and put them in hypersexualized situations.

Halo Jones, DR & Quinch, John Constantine...

But yeah, a lot of his best work has used characters created by other people.

Kangaroo_Ralph: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x373]

I always considered this a companion piece.

Gay Neilman and Al Enmore think you might be on to something there.

Why? I mean, it was a good film, well written and well acted. Yes they diverged from some of the source material but the result was a good product. Unlike the movie Constantine and it's source Hellblazer (I'd still like a Hellblazer movie). But you have so many other properties out there that are ripe for making a movie from hell they lend themselves to a whole series of movies:

Planetry.
Transmetropolitan.
The Authority
Global Frequency

If you want to do one off's then what about things like:

Orbiter
Ministry of Space
No Hero.

There are so many properties you could get cheaply but no, Hollywood would rather twist existing IP's until they die rather than accept it was only good for a single movie. I wonder when Harry Potter 8 is due out.

Scrotastic Method: Well, yeah. Moore is the greatest comics writer ever and one of the better writers alive. He can use other characters because he's shown he can work with source material -- starting back with what, the complete re-imagining of Swamp Thing (I'm no comic book nerd, so, I'm probably way off)?

"DC" can't reboot/prequel Watchmen because that's a classic and whoever they hire will not be on Moore's level.

Read Straczynski's Supreme Power and Azzarello's 100 Bullets, then tell us what you think.

FirstNationalBastard: Scrotastic Method: Well, yeah. Moore is the greatest comics writer ever and one of the better writers alive. He can use other characters because he's shown he can work with source material -- starting back with what, the complete re-imagining of Swamp Thing (I'm no comic book nerd, so, I'm probably way off)?

"DC" can't reboot/prequel Watchmen because that's a classic and whoever they hire will not be on Moore's level.

I was hoping they'd use Chuck Austen and Rob Liefeld. If you're going to piss on something, don't just dribble, blast a stream like a firehose.

I think you and I had this Austen/Liefeld discussion not too long ago. A movie about struggling single moms with dozens of pouches on their dresses?

I really liked the work Moore did. But he's no relevant anymore, so he needs either quit biatchin, or come up with his next great graphic story from thin air. Oh wait, that's right, those characters already existed. (Farkers already pointed the obvious out)

I know a lot of people do the "get of my lawn" rant about how comics are in the shiatter, and how WB and Disney will eventually kill the two brands, but I'm enjoying some of the stuff out now, and when it start to get to the brain melting level, I'll just pull out the back issues and read those until something new and fresh comes along.

sarah_t_s: Why? I mean, it was a good film, well written and well acted. Yes they diverged from some of the source material but the result was a good product. Unlike the movie Constantine and it's source Hellblazer (I'd still like a Hellblazer movie). But you have so many other properties out there that are ripe for making a movie from hell they lend themselves to a whole series of movies:

Planetry.
Transmetropolitan.
The Authority
Global Frequency

If you want to do one off's then what about things like:

Orbiter
Ministry of Space
No Hero.

There are so many properties you could get cheaply but no, Hollywood would rather twist existing IP's until they die rather than accept it was only good for a single movie. I wonder when Harry Potter 8 is due out.

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MoronLessOff: JoePiscopoJr.: This is a bad idea, but not surprising. Watchmen was perfect, we dont ever need any other stories with these characters.

I have to say, I think there was one change in the movie that made a better impact than the comic. The monster. Framing Dr. Manhattan the way he did seemed to fit the story better.


Totally agree. Which is why DC won't be receiving a dime from me if they do this. Gotta vote with your money.

sarah_t_s: Why? I mean, it was a good film, well written and well acted. Yes they diverged from some of the source material but the result was a good product. Unlike the movie Constantine and it's source Hellblazer (I'd still like a Hellblazer movie). But you have so many other properties out there that are ripe for making a movie from hell they lend themselves to a whole series of movies:

Planetry.
Transmetropolitan.
The Authority
Global Frequency

If you want to do one off's then what about things like:

Orbiter
Ministry of Space
No Hero.

There are so many properties you could get cheaply but no, Hollywood would rather twist existing IP's until they die rather than accept it was only good for a single movie. I wonder when Harry Potter 8 is due out.

I would love a Transmetropolitan mini-series. Oh, who am I kidding, I'm just waiting around for a way to buy the set without having three dozen books on my shelf.

/Why is it that The Walking Dead is the only one to realize that people really like having single compilations of comics? TPs are tiny and numerous.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I don't get the Watchmen love. I've read it numerous times, and yes, it is good, but it has gotten waaaay overrated the past few years.

/like a lot of Moore's stuff, really

That's ok. Almost every universally highly regarded work has a "that guy". You're that guy in this case.

Is this the thread where i may ask the age-old question, "whats with the blue dong"?

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I don't get the Watchmen love. I've read it numerous times, and yes, it is good, but it has gotten waaaay overrated the past few years.

/like a lot of Moore's stuff, really


I'm in the same boat. I reread it a few years ago, sometime before the movie came out. It's really nothing special. Overly, non-ironically, comically violent and extreme in places and takes itself too seriously.

It's friggin' comic book. Not some bible or even an amazing work of art. The characters are just as one dimensional as any of their cape and cowl wearing counterparts and the story line is comparable to just about everything else.

Decent. I just don't get why everyone goes apeshiat over it. God forbid you talk about it's faults in the wrong place. You'll get those circle-jerking fanboys frothing at the mouth

Sir Vanderhoot:
I would love a Transmetropolitan mini-series. Oh, who am I kidding, I'm just waiting around for a way to buy the set without having three dozen books on my shelf.


I'll take two sets (one for me and a present for the other half) of hardback complete Transmet's please, it can join my complete Calvin & Hobbes on the shelf once I've finished rereading it obviously.

sarah_t_s: Why? I mean, it was a good film, well written and well acted. Yes they diverged from some of the source material but the result was a good product. Unlike the movie Constantine and it's source Hellblazer (I'd still like a Hellblazer movie). But you have so many other properties out there that are ripe for making a movie from hell they lend themselves to a whole series of movies:

Planetry.
Transmetropolitan.
The Authority
Global Frequency

If you want to do one off's then what about things like:

Orbiter
Ministry of Space
No Hero.

There are so many properties you could get cheaply but no, Hollywood would rather twist existing IP's until they die rather than accept it was only good for a single movie. I wonder when Harry Potter 8 is due out.


I've always thought that Martha Washington: Give me Liberty would make an excellent film in the right hands (Zach Snyder).

T.rex: Is this the thread where i may ask the age-old question, "whats with the blue dong"?

Manhattan's steadily shrinking wardrobe represents how he is gradually drifting away from his humanity. Which is why he goes from full bodysuit (he even ditches the hat before even putting it on in public) to tanktop/speedo to skivvies to naked. He feels less and less shame because he is no longer connected to those around him.

sarah_t_s: Sir Vanderhoot:
I would love a Transmetropolitan mini-series. Oh, who am I kidding, I'm just waiting around for a way to buy the set without having three dozen books on my shelf.


I'll take two sets (one for me and a present for the other half) of hardback complete Transmet's please, it can join my complete Calvin & Hobbes on the shelf once I've finished rereading it obviously.

I know, right? Not even hardcover (although that would be great) but three books of a few hundred pages would fit it well (if I recall correctly, the story is split into three major arcs of equal-ish length) with my other collections. At least From Hell, V for Vendetta, and Watchmen are self-contained.

Milk it till the fanbois bleed from their EYES!

Muahahahahahahahahaaaaa!

Wendy's Chili: Scrotastic Method: Well, yeah. Moore is the greatest comics writer ever and one of the better writers alive. He can use other characters because he's shown he can work with source material -- starting back with what, the complete re-imagining of Swamp Thing (I'm no comic book nerd, so, I'm probably way off)?

"DC" can't reboot/prequel Watchmen because that's a classic and whoever they hire will not be on Moore's level.

Read Straczynski's Supreme Power and Azzarello's 100 Bullets, then tell us what you think.

I'm not sure I could handle the metric asston of "LOL WORDPLAY" in every panel if they asked Brian Azzarello to do it.

Sir Vanderhoot: sarah_t_s: Why? I mean, it was a good film, well written and well acted. Yes they diverged from some of the source material but the result was a good product. Unlike the movie Constantine and it's source Hellblazer (I'd still like a Hellblazer movie). But you have so many other properties out there that are ripe for making a movie from hell they lend themselves to a whole series of movies:

Planetry.
Transmetropolitan.
The Authority
Global Frequency

If you want to do one off's then what about things like:

Orbiter
Ministry of Space
No Hero.

There are so many properties you could get cheaply but no, Hollywood would rather twist existing IP's until they die rather than accept it was only good for a single movie. I wonder when Harry Potter 8 is due out.

I would love a Transmetropolitan mini-series. Oh, who am I kidding, I'm just waiting around for a way to buy the set without having three dozen books on my shelf.

/Why is it that The Walking Dead is the only one to realize that people really like having single compilations of comics? TPs are tiny and numerous.

God I would love an Absolute Transmetro. And they did actually try to make a miniseries on HBO, did not get greenlit.

/Transmetro is Patrick Stewart's favorite comic
//Man has taste.

FirstNationalBastard: Yeah, the headline is right, but DC is run by monkeys who are flinging their own shiat at formerly enjoyable things in the name of "putting their own mark" on it.

So I'm willing to give Moore a pass for yelling at clouds on this one.

In the future, can you save me time by writing all my fark comments for me?

MoronLessOff: JoePiscopoJr.: This is a bad idea, but not surprising. Watchmen was perfect, we dont ever need any other stories with these characters.

I have to say, I think there was one change in the movie that made a better impact than the comic. The monster. Framing Dr. Manhattan the way he did seemed to fit the story better.

This.

Way better for the story than aliens. Though I love love loved the comics as well as the movie.