So does this mean that MSNBC is going to take both of them out?

Or something?

Outrageous Muff: [k.wigflip.com image 577x396]

Farking magnates

/how do they work?

These guys whine too much, the middle class are just trying to lower their tax burden like you super rich guys do. You must know the game is about invoking an emotional reaction, ya'll human trash use those tactics all the time as a way to divide us in the middle class. It's only business, pal.

Fox News essentially owns the WSJ since Murdoch bought it and turned it into the partisan rag it is now.

It's getting harder to tell the difference between WSJ editorials and what is found on the blogs of WND and Newsmax.

Headso: These guys whine too much, the middle class are just trying to lower their tax burden like you super rich guys do. You must know the game is about invoking an emotional reaction, ya'll human trash use those tactics all the time as a way to divide us in the middle class. It's only business, pal.

Maybe we can start having bake sales and car washes to raise funds for lobbyists

Fart_Machine: It's getting harder to tell the difference between WSJ editorials and what is found on the blogs of WND and Newsmax.

That's why they used to have the Floor Humping Man on WingNutDaily and Newsmax. So you could easily tell the difference.

Fart_Machine: It's getting harder to tell the difference between WSJ editorials and what is found on the blogs of WND and Newsmax.

The WSJ is worse because it had credibility. The derp is seriously hurting their image in the eyes of people who know about business and economics. Most prominent economists in the country disagree with most of their opinion derp.

So if my lawyer finds out that my name is first on the President's Enemies List they are not allowed to go public with that information. Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along. I hope you all saw this change coming.

D-Liver: Headso: These guys whine too much, the middle class are just trying to lower their tax burden like you super rich guys do. You must know the game is about invoking an emotional reaction, ya'll human trash use those tactics all the time as a way to divide us in the middle class. It's only business, pal.

Maybe we can start having bake sales and car washes to raise funds for lobbyists

Funny thing is if the middle class did come together and hire lobbyists they'd have much, much more money to bribe these politicians than all the special interests combined.

timujin: I am happy to pay the amount that I do,

The super wealthy donating to Romney are not, they want to pay less and for you to pay more. Each year my property taxes go up and fees go up because the cost of government goes up while these kinds of people fight to pay less and less. So when do you become unhappy because it isn't like you've been paying the same every year.

Replace "Obama" with "America" and you have an accurate statement.

Sith only advance through murder. So who at Fox News did this guy kill?

Arkanaut: Outrageous Muff: [k.wigflip.com image 577x396]

Farking magnates

/how do they work?

Actually, they're TP Tycoons.

TheBigJerk: Replace "Obama" with "America" and you have an accurate statement.

No, America's enemies list is headed by George Soros. *ducks*

spiderpaz: Fox News essentially owns the WSJ since Murdoch bought it and turned it into the partisan rag it is now.

Oh there's a big surpriiiiiise! That's an incredible - I think I'm going to have a heart attack and DIE of that surprise!

timujin: Headso: timujin: I am happy to pay the amount that I do,

The super wealthy donating to Romney are not, they want to pay less and for you to pay more. Each year my property taxes go up and fees go up because the cost of government goes up while these kinds of people fight to pay less and less. So when do you become unhappy because it isn't like you've been paying the same every year.

Ah, I thought you were saying that the only reason the middle class wants the super wealthy to pay more in taxes is because they want to pay less.

I would say the majority of middle class people do want to pay less, you get to the 10th straight year of your taxes and fees and healthcare and gas and food and anything else you can imagine going up faster than inflation. People are looking for relief from anywhere they can get it.

Headso: Funny thing is if the middle class did come together and hire lobbyists they'd have much, much more money to bribe these politicians than all the special interests combined.

And I nominate you to herd them cats.

Good Luck, we're all counting on you.

Deucednuisance: Headso: Funny thing is if the middle class did come together and hire lobbyists they'd have much, much more money to bribe these politicians than all the special interests combined.

And I nominate you to herd them cats.

Good Luck, we're all counting on you.

You must work for Koch, trying to doom this proposal before it ever gets off the ground.

There is no one on Obama's enemies list other than Middle Eastern, brown people.

/ducks

s2s2s2: There is no one on Obama's enemies list other than Middle Eastern, brown people.

/ducks

RandomExcess: So if my lawyer finds out that my name is first on the President's Enemies List they are not allowed to go public with that information. Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along. I hope you all saw this change coming.

A. There is no evidence of this list
B. You cease to be a "private citizen" when you almost entirely fund campaigns to influence public offices for your benefit.
C. Soros!

Wow.

First they inject huge sums of cash into politics to try to change policies to enrich themselves, then have someone in their employ write a sad-Mary piece when people of opposing views bring their influence into the light. Because it's "unfair."

I have zero sympathy for them. You want to get involved in American politics? Be prepared for the fallout.

s2s2s2: There is no one on Obama's enemies list other than Middle Eastern, brown people.

/ducks

I think those specific names are on all our lists.

In other news, the world's smallest violin was split down the middle today, with half being awarded to each Koch.

Wendy's Chili: Former Bush solicitor general (and one of the attorneys litigating a pro-gay marriage case) Theodore Olson thinks that President Obama's targeting of oil magnates David and Charles Koch is unfair - comparing it Richard Nixon's 'enemies list' or Joseph McCarthy's red baiting.

Ah yes, the old "compare him to one of ours" attack.

"This is Obama's Katrina!"
"This is Obama's 'No new taxes!'"
"This is Obama's Nixon's enemies list!"

"This is Obama's Beirut marines barracks!"

That's one you'll never hear.

RandomExcess: I hope you all saw this change coming.

It's clever how you worked "hope/change" into a sentence as a way to disparage people who voted for Obama. You're probably the first person to ever do that. You're like a genius or something.

Craptastic: RandomExcess: I hope you all saw this change coming.

It's clever how you worked "hope/change" into a sentence as a way to disparage people who voted for Obama. You're probably the first person to ever do that. You're like a genius or something.

Off topic here, but this has been bothering me... why are having hope and desiring change negatives? I can almost understand fear of change, but seems like a stretch... but hope? What level of societal sociopathy must one find themselves in to find fault with that?

"Fox News smiles as its apprentice finally becomes a Sith Master"

Fixed that for you Subby. They're already Siths. And to be completely technical the WSJ would have to kill Fox News to become the new Sith lord.

/nerd

Headso: You must work for Koch, trying to doom this proposal before it ever gets off the ground.

Not at all, my good fellow!

I just happen to agree with Will Rogers:

"I don't belong to an organized Party. I'm a Democrat."

Anyone who can get `em all on the same page, bully for them!

Headso: Deucednuisance: Headso: Funny thing is if the middle class did come together and hire lobbyists they'd have much, much more money to bribe these politicians than all the special interests combined.

And I nominate you to herd them cats.

Good Luck, we're all counting on you.

You must work for Koch, trying to doom this proposal before it ever gets off the ground.

Sure would be a lot easier to herd us cats if some of us didn't actively refuse to accept that it was possible, wouldn't it?

"How would you like to get better wages, reduce the national debt, legalize weed, strengthen the safety net, bring our troops home and invest in alternative energy before China gets a leg up!?"

"That sounds great but it'll never happen. I won't join until this gets some traction... then I'll jump right in with the rest of you."

"... Good thing that's how lobbyists feel about decreasing your wages, increasing the national debt, maintaining the prison industry and military industry status quo, and only investing in Oil and Corn while offshoring jobs to China so they can compete directly with us, then. Otherwise I might mistake your apathy for an active desire to see this country burn."

Deucednuisance: Anyone who can get `em all on the same page, bully for them!

I was just joking that asking me to be that someone is asking for failure... well not joking actually.

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Craptastic: RandomExcess: I hope you all saw this change coming.

It's clever how you worked "hope/change" into a sentence as a way to disparage people who voted for Obama. You're probably the first person to ever do that. You're like a genius or something.

Off topic here, but this has been bothering me... why are having hope and desiring change negatives? I can almost understand fear of change, but seems like a stretch... but hope? What level of societal sociopathy must one find themselves in to find fault with that?

I don't really get that either but I think it's safe to say it goes hand-in-hand with thinking that someone with an expensive education is automatically your enemy and your criteria for picking the president is whether you'd have a beer with him.

Seriously, "You keep the change." You like stuff the way it is and you are not even solidly middle class?

/derp

Headso: I was just joking

And right back atcha.

Fark's not entirely snark and sometimes I play play nice, too!

Fox News and the WSJ:

Two world headquarters that should mysteriously burn down in the middle of the night...

steverockson: "Fox News smiles as its apprentice finally becomes a Sith Master"

Fixed that for you Subby. They're already Siths. And to be completely technical the WSJ would have to kill Fox News to become the new Sith lord.

/nerd

That is assuming they follow the law of two....

/nerd too

DORMAMU: steverockson: "Fox News smiles as its apprentice finally becomes a Sith Master"

Fixed that for you Subby. They're already Siths. And to be completely technical the WSJ would have to kill Fox News to become the new Sith lord.

/nerd

That is assuming they follow the law rule of two....

/nerd too

As long as we're being picky, haha.

All2morrowsparTs: s2s2s2: There is no one on Obama's enemies list other than Middle Eastern, brown people.

/ducks

I think those specific names are on all our lists.

Well now they are.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: jake_lex: Wasn't the WSJ opinion page compete and total herp-a-derp even before News Corps bought them?

It was conservative; it's always been conservative. Since the takeover, however, it's been Pants on Head idiotic conservative.

This is actually a big part of the reason there is no reasonable conservative opinion around any more (in the US) - anything with any reputation and enough viewers/readers has been snapped up and turned into propaganda rags for the extreme right, so now there is very little meaningful political discourse across a large area of the media.

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Off topic here, but this has been bothering me... why are having hope and desiring change negatives?

Because Socialism. Come on, you knew that.