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(CNN) Obvious Do you live in Wisconsin? Did you sign the petition to recall Gov. Walker? If so, the Wisconsin Attorney General has decided just how to fix your wagon real good for ya   (cnn.com) divider line 534
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2012-02-01 11:09:03 AM
Well that sure encourages participation in the political process.
 
2012-02-01 11:22:40 AM
So they're going with passive-aggressive abuse of people who want him recalled?
 
2012-02-01 11:34:52 AM
I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.
 
2012-02-01 11:40:25 AM
James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

Yeah, but it should be up to you if your signatures are released. I'm sure more than a few people signed on the condition of anonymity. They had no reason to expect they would be released. This is Walker trying to punish people.
 
2012-02-01 11:48:31 AM
GAT_00: I'm sure more than a few people signed on the condition of anonymity.

If you sign a petition there is no condition of anonymity and if they told you there was they were lying.
 
2012-02-01 11:51:45 AM
I think the bigger question is, does the gov. routinely release the names of petitioners? If it is common practice, that's one thing. If this is the exception to the rule, however, thats different
 
2012-02-01 12:04:59 PM
Madbassist1: I think the bigger question is, does the gov. routinely release the names of petitioners? If it is common practice, that's one thing. If this is the exception to the rule, however, thats different

From the article: The state Government Accountability Board announced its plans Tuesday, citing Wisconsin's Public Records Law and a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision involving the release of referendum petitions in Washington State.

The Washington State case is what I was referring to in my comment above.
 
2012-02-01 12:09:23 PM
James!: Madbassist1: I think the bigger question is, does the gov. routinely release the names of petitioners? If it is common practice, that's one thing. If this is the exception to the rule, however, thats different

From the article: The state Government Accountability Board announced its plans Tuesday, citing Wisconsin's Public Records Law and a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision involving the release of referendum petitions in Washington State.

The Washington State case is what I was referring to in my comment above.


So it's not 'routine' but we're going to start doing it now...with this particular petition.

Ok. fine. Not disagreeing with you. if they wouldn't have done it, some other group would have forced it, no doubt. You can't say that it doesn't smack of intimidation though, and to inact it retroactively really sucks.
 
2012-02-01 12:15:29 PM
If the Prop 8 petitions can be released, so can these.
 
2012-02-01 12:17:04 PM
Madbassist1: So it's not 'routine' but we're going to start doing it now...with this particular petition.

Not really, they have a state public records law that requires they release it and they've cited a recent Supreme Court ruling that addresses the same issue.
 
2012-02-01 12:21:10 PM
James!: Madbassist1: I think the bigger question is, does the gov. routinely release the names of petitioners? If it is common practice, that's one thing. If this is the exception to the rule, however, thats different

From the article: The state Government Accountability Board announced its plans Tuesday, citing Wisconsin's Public Records Law and a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision involving the release of referendum petitions in Washington State.

The Washington State case is what I was referring to in my comment above.


Because NOW Walker cares about the rule of law.
 
2012-02-01 01:02:06 PM
Release the names... Any GOP yahoos that decide to "take revenge" on someone and are caught should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and publicly shamed.

I can see see where some folks might be concerned about this considering the underhanded, shady and bullying nature of Lazy Eye and his Cronies, though.
 
2012-02-01 01:09:11 PM
I don't have a problem with this. As long as people that get fired from their jobs for being on the list have legal recourse, that is.
 
2012-02-01 01:15:39 PM
James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

A church in North Florida (aka South Georgia) even posted the names of people who signed the Florida petition to ban gay marriage. They said it was in furtherance of open dialogue. I was pleasantly surprised.

Though not pleasantly surprised to find out 4 neighbors on my cul-de-sac signed it :-(
 
2012-02-01 01:19:15 PM
I hope Scott's own family is on there
 
2012-02-01 01:19:20 PM
Diogenes: James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

A church in North Florida (aka South Georgia) even posted the names of people who signed the Florida petition to ban gay marriage. They said it was in furtherance of open dialogue. I was pleasantly surprised.

Though not pleasantly surprised to find out 4 neighbors on my cul-de-sac signed it :-(


I always thought living in a cul-de-sac made you 3/10ths gay already.
 
2012-02-01 01:24:10 PM
James!: Diogenes: James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

A church in North Florida (aka South Georgia) even posted the names of people who signed the Florida petition to ban gay marriage. They said it was in furtherance of open dialogue. I was pleasantly surprised.

Though not pleasantly surprised to find out 4 neighbors on my cul-de-sac signed it :-(

I always thought living in a cul-de-sac made you 3/10ths gay already.


Or a yuppie. Though there's some overlap there.
 
2012-02-01 01:27:52 PM
When confronted if you signed it, your reply should be "Hell yes I signed it! If given the same chance I'd sign it again!"
 
2012-02-01 01:40:22 PM
Diogenes: James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

A church in North Florida (aka South Georgia) even posted the names of people who signed the Florida petition to ban gay marriage. They said it was in furtherance of open dialogue. I was pleasantly surprised.

Though not pleasantly surprised to find out 4 neighbors on my cul-de-sac signed it :-(


Block parties must be awkward...
 
2012-02-01 01:40:48 PM
'GIT EM!

/that's your plan, Ray?
//Get her?
 
2012-02-01 01:43:20 PM
Unlimited cash donations can still be anonymous. I love Obama's America. You made your bed, Libs. Suck it.
 
2012-02-01 01:44:15 PM
Teabaggers are all talk no walk anyway.

I'd be happy to be on the petition.
 
2012-02-01 01:45:22 PM
The funny thing is that all the Disney characters that we were told had signed by our conservative Farkers here are no where to be seen on the actual petitions.
 
2012-02-01 01:46:28 PM
They can also later release names of the million citizens who signed the petition to recall the attorney general.
 
2012-02-01 01:46:32 PM
It's good to see transparency in the electoral process, partisan hatred aside.
 
2012-02-01 01:47:11 PM
I just came here to say that I love the phrase "I'll fix your wagon" especially when it's used like "oh yeah, I'll fix your wagon. I'll fix it real good heh heh."
 
2012-02-01 01:48:08 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Teabaggers are all talk no walk anyway.

As long as you're not a five-pound cat. AmIRightorAmIRight?
 
2012-02-01 01:48:18 PM
I'm on the side of "you sign a petition, own up to it".

I mean, it's a farking PETITION. It's intrinsically public, IMO.
 
2012-02-01 01:48:22 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Teabaggers are all talk no walk anyway.

Were the perps ever caught?
 
2012-02-01 01:48:40 PM
I love how Walker now has to play this game where he's "not concerned" about this "little bump in the road", when the reality is that over 1 MILLION people in his state want him g-o-n-e.
 
2012-02-01 01:48:43 PM
Paris1127: Diogenes: James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

A church in North Florida (aka South Georgia) even posted the names of people who signed the Florida petition to ban gay marriage. They said it was in furtherance of open dialogue. I was pleasantly surprised.

Though not pleasantly surprised to find out 4 neighbors on my cul-de-sac signed it :-(

Block parties must be awkward...


The parents are a bit put off by my peacock-Vegas showgirl dress but the kids get a kick out of it.
 
2012-02-01 01:48:54 PM
Signing a petition is not the same thing as voting.

There is no expectation your signature to be kept 'secret'.

And last I checked, there's no shame in wanting that dipshiat out of office.

Y'know, unlike the bigots who have reason to be afraid their support being made public.
 
2012-02-01 01:50:52 PM
I don't get it... wouldn't anyone who hopes to remove Governor Walker want to proudly proclaim it? I understand privacy concerns, but isn't Walker universally loathed in Wisconsin?
 
2012-02-01 01:51:02 PM
This is so great - as many people signed the petition as voted for Scott Walker in the first place, so he goes and antagonizes them? Really? Wisconsin is going to have some pretty powerful unions when all is said and done the way this is going. I really doubt Scott has a career in PR ahead of him.
 
2012-02-01 01:51:54 PM
Paris1127: Diogenes: James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

A church in North Florida (aka South Georgia) even posted the names of people who signed the Florida petition to ban gay marriage. They said it was in furtherance of open dialogue. I was pleasantly surprised.

Though not pleasantly surprised to find out 4 neighbors on my cul-de-sac signed it :-(

Block parties must be awkward...


Possibly awkward, but certainly fabulous.
 
2012-02-01 01:52:16 PM
James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

Very much this.
 
2012-02-01 01:52:18 PM
Names, addresses and signatures? What (fraud) could (fraud) possibly (fraud) go (fraud) wrong?
 
2012-02-01 01:53:23 PM
Wow, what a bunch of immature children. We just need to boot politicians from their offices and start from scratch.
 
2012-02-01 01:53:43 PM
Cinaed: Signing a petition is not the same thing as voting.

There is no expectation your signature to be kept 'secret'.

And last I checked, there's no shame in wanting that dipshiat out of office.

Y'know, unlike the bigots who have reason to be afraid their support being made public.


It's not a shame thing. There have been a number of cases of petition drive workers being assaulted by very angry and aggressive Walker supporters. There WILL be people who get fired over this.

/And I don't just mean Walker.
 
2012-02-01 01:54:30 PM
Gonna paint this wagon, gonna paint it good
 
2012-02-01 01:55:06 PM
Who didn't see this coming? These guys have no ethics. Retaliation was inevitable.
 
2012-02-01 01:55:35 PM
James!: From the article: The state Government Accountability Board announced its plans Tuesday, citing Wisconsin's Public Records Law and a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision involving the release of referendum petitions in Washington State.

Walker has demonstrated he doesn't believe Wisconsin's Public Records Law is worth paying attention to. Why the change of heart?
 
2012-02-01 01:55:43 PM
James!: I'll say the same thing I said when anti-gay groups where trying to hide the names of their petition signers. If you stand behind a cause you shouldn't be afraid to let it be known.

Exactly. Public outcry is, in fact, public.
 
2012-02-01 01:55:59 PM
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: HotWingConspiracy: Teabaggers are all talk no walk anyway.

As long as you're not a five-pound cat. AmIRightorAmIRight?


Ha. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

March around with guns, watering tress of liberty in blood, 2nd Amendment solutions, and they manage to kill a harmless animal. Pussies.

/though I do maintain Laughner is a teabagger and his writings are full of their rhetoric, which is why they aren't being released for now. They did the same thing with Adkisson's writings. Since I cannot prove this though, for now they remain cat-killing pussies
 
2012-02-01 01:56:29 PM
They are only looking out for us.

Just like when the repubs in Warren County, Ohio had to count their votes in private because of the very unusual timing of being under threat of terrorist attack on election night.

Doing things in private always keeps you safe from terrorists
 
2012-02-01 01:56:47 PM
They can always hide out in Illinois if they're that worried.
 
2012-02-01 01:57:38 PM
Diogenes: I always thought living in a cul-de-sac made you 3/10ths gay already.

Or a yuppie. Though there's some overlap there.


Not many cul-de-sacs in the city. Just sayin'...
 
2012-02-01 01:58:52 PM
Do political donors worry about reprisal for donating to certain candidates?

Isn't that information publicly available?

Why should petitioners be different?

Stop being a crytit and ashamed of what you do and want it covered up.

fly your petitioner flag

where that shiat like a badge of honor.
 
2012-02-01 01:59:16 PM
mattso: I don't get it... wouldn't anyone who hopes to remove Governor Walker want to proudly proclaim it? I understand privacy concerns, but isn't Walker universally loathed in Wisconsin?

I would imagine that Walker has his supporters as well. If you signed it, and your boss is a nasty, petty supporter of the Gov, he or she could start looking to see if anyone that worked for them was on the list, and then start finding "good reasons" to terminate their employment.

/If WI is an "At will" employment state, the reasons don't even have to be all that good.
//One unreasonable deadline not met, and you get a pink slip.
 
2012-02-01 01:59:28 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Teabaggers are all talk no walk anyway.

I'd be happy to be on the petition.


Tell that to the family with a dead cat with liberal scrawled on it's corpse.
 
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