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(Pravda) Interesting Americans about to create super weapon of the future - railgun. Russia surrenders   (english.pravda.ru) divider line 96
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2012-02-01 11:44:36 AM
Didn't "Eraser" and a dozen other movies do this?
 
2012-02-01 11:45:33 AM
I had that copy of Popular Science in the 80's or 90s.
 
2012-02-01 11:46:21 AM
Personally I am against our bloated military budget but, god damn it, WE NEED RAILGUNS, preferably with Quad Damage.
 
2012-02-01 11:47:27 AM
Unimpressed by old news:

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2012-02-01 11:48:22 AM
From TFA it works on the same principles as a homopolar motor.

...Fabulous?
 
2012-02-01 11:48:31 AM
ihatedumbpeople: Didn't "Eraser" and a dozen other movies do this?

yes

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/only good part of that movie
//besides Megan Fox's tits
 
2012-02-01 11:48:51 AM
Super weapon is a bit of hyperbole. It depends what and where its railing. Rail gun on a naval destroyer launching sabot slugs, like we're testing right now. Badass. Rail gun on the moon launching captured asteroids. Super weapon.
 
2012-02-01 11:48:59 AM
Sun Khan: From TFA it works on the same principles as a homopolar motor.

...Fabulous?


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2012-02-01 11:50:42 AM
Not that has anything to do with the topic at hand, but every time I see that Pravda banner, I read it as 'NAMBLA'.
 
2012-02-01 11:51:03 AM
Unless they can mount it on the head of a shark I don't see much future for this weapon
 
2012-02-01 11:51:44 AM
Old news is old. Navy has had this shiat for years, long enough for the public to be allowed to know about it: Naval Railgun (new window)
 
2012-02-01 11:51:46 AM
Isn't the railgun kind of the Electric Vehicle of projectile-throwing technology? Higher cost, lower performance... and minus the planet-saving aspects that make EVs potentially worthwhile.
 
2012-02-01 11:52:07 AM
using the same principles as the homopolar motor.

Don't ask, don't tell.
 
2012-02-01 11:53:02 AM
Isn't this 70 year old tech?
 
2012-02-01 11:53:31 AM
Cyno01: Rail gun on the moon launching captured asteroids. Super weapon.

1. your confusing a railgun Railgun with a Coil Gun. similar principles but distinct ideas (equally cool)

2. looks like someone has been watching Justice League cartoons recently
 
2012-02-01 11:54:30 AM
EddyKilowatt: Isn't the railgun kind of the Electric Vehicle of projectile-throwing technology? Higher cost, lower performance... and minus the planet-saving aspects that make EVs potentially worthwhile.

Higher cost, theoretical higher performance... plus the sailor-saving aspects of not having to carry around high explosive artillery shells.
 
2012-02-01 11:54:33 AM
The Rods-From-God weapon system is a superweapon. A railgun is a badass weapon.
 
2012-02-01 11:55:05 AM
natmar_76: Personally I am against our bloated military budget but, god damn it, WE NEED RAILGUNS, preferably with Quad Damage.

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2012-02-01 11:55:06 AM
Must be a slow news day for pravda.
 
2012-02-01 11:55:32 AM
It's railing men. Halleluiah! It's railing men.

...what?
 
2012-02-01 11:56:10 AM
cleveralthere:

2. looks like someone has been watching Justice League cartoons recently


The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
 
2012-02-01 11:56:35 AM
Mount it on a jeep and I'll capture as many flags as you want.
 
2012-02-01 11:56:44 AM
I'm pretty sure this has already been used with moderate success against the Wraith.
 
2012-02-01 11:56:45 AM
Satellite launches just became a ton cheaper and easier
 
2012-02-01 11:56:47 AM
We did this in the Star Wars days. Even had a space based platform design. The models all worked here on earth but getting it into space was going to prove to be difficult as it was nearly a quarter mile long and you couldn't aim it fast enough at multiple MIRV targets to be of much good. But the stupid rooskies didn't know that.........
 
2012-02-01 11:59:01 AM
In the middle of 2011, the US Senate was going to cut the funding for two most "futuristic" defense projects - the railgun and the combat laser. President Obama rescued the "weapon of the 21st century" when he signed the decree to continue the development of railguns. First railguns are to appear on US vessels by 2025.
... and yet the right wing politicians keep pounding on the fact that big O is very anti military and anti military systems.
 
2012-02-01 11:59:19 AM
fail gun.
 
2012-02-01 12:02:45 PM
Until somebody shows up with one at Knob Creek, it didn't happen.
 
2012-02-01 12:03:35 PM
The funny thing is that without the "leaders" of today, there is no need for weaponry of this type. Society is civil. It's the leaders that fabricate war.
 
2012-02-01 12:03:51 PM
netweavr: Satellite launches just became a ton cheaper and easier

Um no. Not unless you like your payload smeared all over the back of the housing. That 33 megajoules is the about the same as hitting it with the force of 33 sticks of dynamite. Over several milliseconds.
 
2012-02-01 12:04:44 PM
So, guided projectiles too?
 
2012-02-01 12:05:52 PM
Julie Cochrane: Until somebody shows up with one at Knob Creek, it didn't happen.

I had a friend that ran a charity event at Knob Creek. He would buy large amounts of stuffed animals on ebay and resell them at the range for a large markup which all went to a children's hospital. He would also sell thermite to go along with the stuffed animal if you felt shooting it wasn't enough.
 
2012-02-01 12:07:47 PM
j__z: Must be a slow news day for pravda.

True.
 
2012-02-01 12:07:51 PM
JonnyG: The funny thing is that without the "leaders" of today, there is no need for weaponry of this type. Society is civil. It's the leaders that fabricate war.

No one reads a newspaper anymore, apparently.
 
2012-02-01 12:08:31 PM
Give me Quad damage and a few jump pads to work off of and I'll use this thing to cleanse the planet of our enemies.
 
2012-02-01 12:10:58 PM
natmar_76: Personally I am against our bloated military budget but, god damn it, WE NEED RAILGUNS, preferably with Quad Damage.

And a grappling hook. So I can camp in the rafters and pwn n00bs.
 
2012-02-01 12:11:39 PM
Evil Twin Skippy: netweavr: Satellite launches just became a ton cheaper and easier

Um no. Not unless you like your payload smeared all over the back of the housing. That 33 megajoules is the about the same as hitting it with the force of 33 sticks of dynamite. Over several milliseconds.


You would need to do some pretty special engineering to make it work, and your barrel would be REALLY long (to spread the acceleration) but the Air Force is working on using EM propulsion (rail/coil gun tech) to launch payloads into orbit. More or less, a really long barrel and a special sabot encasement is supposed to do the trick.
 
2012-02-01 12:12:06 PM
2025? What's the hold up?
 
2012-02-01 12:12:20 PM
Next step?
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2012-02-01 12:13:01 PM
gojirast: natmar_76: Personally I am against our bloated military budget but, god damn it, WE NEED RAILGUNS, preferably with Quad Damage.

And a grappling hook. So I can camp in the rafters and pwn n00bs.


God I loved grappling hooks.
 
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2012-02-01 12:13:17 PM
nailgun? they used one of those in the lethal weapon movies.
 
2012-02-01 12:13:50 PM
socodog: Give me Quad damage and a few jump pads to work off of and I'll use this thing to cleanse the planet of our enemies.

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Sarge?
 
2012-02-01 12:16:16 PM
meanmutton: EddyKilowatt: Isn't the railgun kind of the Electric Vehicle of projectile-throwing technology? Higher cost, lower performance... and minus the planet-saving aspects that make EVs potentially worthwhile.

Higher cost, theoretical higher performance... plus the sailor-saving aspects of not having to carry around high explosive artillery shells.


Yes and no.

First off, the explosives in the shells themselves are child's play compared to the explosives needed to propel the shell.

And all you are doing is changing how you are storing the energy. Now instead of having the energy in cordite (or whatever they are using today...) you are storing the equivalent energy in the form of fuel. Fuel that has to be converted to electricity. And electricity that must be stored in a relatively quick release form.

Now I don't know if you've ever played with a bank of capacitors. But let me tell you, they can do a pretty good job of exploding too. Not to forget arcing, electrical fires...

It may be less risk than storing explosives. But it's not risk free.
 
2012-02-01 12:16:19 PM
Evil Twin Skippy: netweavr: Satellite launches just became a ton cheaper and easier

Um no. Not unless you like your payload smeared all over the back of the housing. That 33 megajoules is the about the same as hitting it with the force of 33 sticks of dynamite. Over several milliseconds.


I'm not sure why this conjures an image of an extra crazy-eyed Mick Fleetwood going double plus nuts with a hand full of explosives, but it does.

As cool as that is, It's probably not good for getting me 10,000 channels of shopping and religious programing in full HD.
 
2012-02-01 12:23:23 PM
Sounds great, but isn't it still a line-of-sight weapon?
 
2012-02-01 12:24:22 PM
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2012-02-01 12:25:13 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel:

We did this in the Star Wars days. Even had a space based platform design. The models all worked here on earth but getting it into space was going to prove to be difficult as it was nearly a quarter mile long and you couldn't aim it fast enough at multiple MIRV targets to be of much good. But the stupid rooskies didn't know that.........

The stupid rooskies knew full well what are capabilities were, we didn't bother to hide much.

If you can find it, ecx.images-amazon.com is an excellent read.
 
2012-02-01 12:25:25 PM
MechTard:
You would need to do some pretty special engineering to make it work, and your barrel would be REALLY long (to spread the acceleration) but the Air Force is working on using EM propulsion (rail/coil gun tech) to launch payloads into orbit. More or less, a really long barrel and a special sabot encasement is supposed to do the trick.


On the moon.

As soon as something traveling at that rate of speed encounters air, it's going to slow down considerably. Not to mention heat up. So unless your really long barrel extends out of the atmosphere, your craft is going to need engines to maintain the momentum gained by using a rail gun.
 
2012-02-01 12:26:55 PM
There are some inherited issues with rail systems from my understanding:

1) Ammunition has to be a ferrous material because rail guns work on magnetization. This is an issue because that increases cost (not that our gov't cares). But also it decreases stopping power. Lead has more "stopping power".

2) and this is the big one: Friction. In order for a rail gun to work it requires contact with the ammunition in order to complete a circuit. The friction wears out the contacts and in high powered rail guns the barrel is typically destroyed.

This was the last thing i heard, but that was about 4 years ago... they may have had some serious advances since then
 
2012-02-01 12:30:53 PM
Someone say railgun?
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