pfffft.
I got gamer friends that dont pay anything to play games...

They knew what they were getting into when they bought those high end gaming PCs... I say, LET THEM BECOME OBSOLETE

So bloomberg is saying they're job creators?

I am now working to eliminate the need for a Bloomberg terminal at work as a result of this article. In an interesting twist, the terminal is an incredibly expensive yet unproductive product.

The point of the original piece was to be as ridiculous as possible so people would keep clicking through the slideshow.

Writing a "rebuttal" and linking to the piece prominently is basically saying to Bloomberg and author Jennifer Prince "Job well done, here's some more clicks!".

To contact the editor responsible for this slideshow: Nikhil Hutheesing at nhutheesi­ng­gr­ebm­oolb­net

Your editing is bad and you should feel bad!

There is much humor to be had in the comments for that piece.

Best one so far: This is the equivalent of a janitor writing a thesis on nuclear fusion.

Linoleum_Blownapart: SphericalTime: Blues_X: That Bloomberg article was, in truth, idiotic.

How so? Everyone knows that the average person always buys the most expensive products, always, without regard to situation or interest.

Don't all of your gamer friends buy 60-inch HD televisions for 4400 dollars? I know mine do.

/Yeah, idiotic sounds correct.

I can't wait for the Bloomberg article on how much it costs to go on vacation.

ONE TRIP TO THE MOON PLEASE $11Billionty

SphericalTime: Blues_X: That Bloomberg article was, in truth, idiotic.

How so? Everyone knows that the average person always buys the most expensive products, always, without regard to situation or interest.

Don't all of your gamer friends buy 60-inch HD televisions for 4400 dollars? I know mine do.

/Yeah, idiotic sounds correct.

Shockingly enough, non-gamers already own chairs and TVs. With speakers too. And some even own computers!

I always enjoyed video games like Metal Marines, Warcraft, Dark Alliance 1 and 2, etc.

However, as I got older, I started to get the feeling that all the time I spent developing characters and grinding out levels could be spent doing almost the same thing in real life to make my life better.

I think I came to this realization when I was playing GTA with a friend. I had my character in the gym lifting weights, and I realized I could actually, you know, BE AT the gym. Granted, you shouldn't apply EVERYTHING you see in that game.

The funny thing is, I think a lot of gamers are developing skills they don't know they have. Let's say you get really good at Civilization/SimCity type games, or RPG games that make you build attributes to apply in different situations. If you take that way of thinking and learn some basic financial jargon, you could do pretty well building your personal investments.

Or, if you play a lot of different games, and learn them quickly, that means you could learn new computer software pretty quickly. If you're willing to cut some video game time to learn new software, that helps you advance at a lot of jobs.

It can be tough to figure out the true cost of gaming. Most people own a computer and a television even if they do not game so attributing the entire cost of a computer or a flat screen television to gaming is wrong. That $1,200 gaming computer also works for internet, word processing and any other non-gaming related computer tasks. You would have spent $600 on a computer anyway so only the remaining $600 is what you spent to on "gaming". The same could be even more true for consoles. You might go out and buy a more expensive television specifically for gaming but then again you may already own a suitable set and not find the need to spend any additional money.

The original author should do an inventory on how much she spends on personal appearance and get back to us. The "Stop liking things I don't like" is strong in her, yes it is.

And what about electricity to power all your incredibly expensive toys? And a house to put them in, that's thousands of dollars a month!

Don't you see that if you were just willing to live at your place of business and spend all your free time staring at motivational posters you would save MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR??????

But regular Cashews just aren't Xtreme enough for me!!1 Only $1.18/oz ginseng-infused f00ds will do!

/hot
//Neither article took into account the $400 HDMI cables that we all use and love

ProfessorOhki: But regular Cashews just aren't Xtreme enough for me!!1 Only $1.18/oz ginseng-infused f00ds will do!

/hot
//Neither article took into account the $400 HDMI cables that we all use and love

Aw, it ate my image. Let's see if this one works:

timujin:
And playing life-size first person shooters is fun :D

Indeed, that's what the 133" screen and 1080P projector are for. :D

/And that setup STILL cost less than the Bloomberg TV

ProfessorOhki: ProfessorOhki: But regular Cashews just aren't Xtreme enough for me!!1 Only $1.18/oz ginseng-infused f00ds will do!

/hot
//Neither article took into account the $400 HDMI cables that we all use and love

Aw, it ate my image. Let's see if this one works:
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Wow, I really want to cock-punch that guy...it's everything wrong "hardcore gamerez" in one person. Miraculous.

Orgasmatron138

I always enjoyed video games like Metal Marines, Warcraft, Dark Alliance 1 and 2, etc.

However, as I got older, I started to get the feeling that all the time I spent developing characters and grinding out levels could be spent doing almost the same thing in real life to make my life better.

I think I came to this realization when I was playing GTA with a friend. I had my character in the gym lifting weights, and I realized I could actually, you know, BE AT the gym. Granted, you shouldn't apply EVERYTHING you see in that game.



I know exactly what you mean. One time I was playing GTA and shooting a bunch of hookers. Then I realized, "I could be shooting hookers in real life!" Boy, has that realization changed me .

My gaming PC cost me $360 refurbished. Granted, I carried over a Radeon 4870 from my old PC but it still works great.

Also, he's right about internet. 105Mbps is ridiculous. I had an 8Mb down/2Mb up connection in my old apartment and it was enough for me to stream Netflix while my girlfriend played Left 4 Dead online.

hubiestubert: BumpInTheNight: The original author should do an inventory on how much she spends on personal appearance and get back to us. The "Stop liking things I don't like" is strong in her, yes it is.
That is husband investment material, and thus really should be tax deductible...

Don't americans have to still pay taxes on lottery winnings? (get it, because she's got such a negative view on gaming her chances of landing a husband are like one in a million :P)

slayer199: Considering I just built a pretty sweet gaming PC for around $2k, I thought Bloomberg was full of crap.

That's how much my current batch of video cards cost, yah I'm exactly who she's referring to :P
/Doesn't own a 4 grand TV, monitors + TVs though...hrm maybe close

I am... confused about one thing.

If I was buying a TV to, primarily, play video games on, with a XB360. Why would I even bother getting one capable of 1080p? The 360 can't go much above 720p@30fps from what I've seen. Hell most of the HD broadcasts I've seen have been at 720p.

So you can get a WAY cheaper TV. Then spend the extra on something useful. Like beer, I suppose you could get some chips and a bottle of sweet sherry for the lady but beer and lots of it.

So what am I missing?

timujin:

Yeah, a friend of mine had the 12' screen / projector setup. Very cool, but I don't have nearly the room for it.


/one day... one day

Yeah, a friend of mine had a 120" setup in a rental house (long story) that was fresh in my mind when we were shopping for a larger house due to a larger family. Told the wife I wanted a nice-sized media room, didn't care about the rest of the house, it could be however she wanted it to be. hah

I went with the largest screen that would fit while still having enough fL. Still, it took 2 years to fully kit out, as I preferred to pay for things as I could instead of running up debt. And I'm still not done, but the core (7.1, screen, seats, projector, media server) is there, so I'm content for now.

/Don't give up the dream! :)

sarah_t_s: I am... confused about one thing.
If I was buying a TV to, primarily, play video games on, with a XB360. Why would I even bother getting one capable of 1080p? The 360 can't go much above 720p@30fps from what I've seen. Hell most of the HD broadcasts I've seen have been at 720p. So you can get a WAY cheaper TV. Then spend the extra on something useful. Like beer, I suppose you could get some chips and a bottle of sweet sherry for the lady but beer and lots of it. So what am I missing?

Good luck finding a TV over 30" that is native 720P anymore, but there's also the concept of upscaling and this (depending on what component you've got performing it) may improve your picture quality through clever anti-aliasing style tricks. But you're right, the current gen of consoles can't even really use the HD resolutions and especially at those TV's refresh rates as it is.

Ideally though this is where your ability to bargain the cost down by splitting with your girlfriend and sell her on how much better the Mamma Mia bluray would look on a cool new 1080P LED vs whatever you've got, or in your case well I dunno. Do you like the Mamma Mia bluray? ;)

sarah_t_s: I am... confused about one thing.

If I was buying a TV to, primarily, play video games on, with a XB360. Why would I even bother getting one capable of 1080p? The 360 can't go much above 720p@30fps from what I've seen. Hell most of the HD broadcasts I've seen have been at 720p.

So you can get a WAY cheaper TV. Then spend the extra on something useful. Like beer, I suppose you could get some chips and a bottle of sweet sherry for the lady but beer and lots of it.

So what am I missing?

A choice few 360 games can do 1080p via hdmi, and I would recommend it just for the sake of future proofing.

Orgasmatron138: I always enjoyed video games like Metal Marines, Warcraft, Dark Alliance 1 and 2, etc.

However, as I got older, blah, blah, blah

Nice troll attempt.

ZiegZeon:
Wow, I really want to cock-punch that guy...it's everything wrong "hardcore gamerez" in one person. Miraculous.

I have been playing video games since the Spectrum 48k. I've played on NES, SNES, GC and Wii. I've played PS1 and PS2, I've had some interaction with an Xbox. I play extensively on the PC. I am by any definition you wish to make a "gamer" or "person who enjoys video games", I have gone without sleep because a game got my by the, metaphorical, balls before now.

Who is that? Should I know him? More importantly, why should I be paying attention to a person or company that can not spell the world Fatality correctly?

BumpInTheNight:
Good luck finding a TV over 30" that is native 720P anymore..

Best Buy shows 62 different 720P tv's of 32"+ dimensions right now.

/But they're still pointless

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: BumpInTheNight:
Good luck finding a TV over 30" that is native 720P anymore..

Best Buy shows 62 different 720P tv's of 32"+ dimensions right now.

/But they're still pointless

You Americans and your increased market share, I should have said above 32" :P But yah when I check bestbuy.ca (sheer curiousity at this point) there's 13 of them listed, all of them are either 32" old school LCDs still listed but out of stock, refurbs or the typical "Sorny/Tashabi" no-name brand knock offs.

Sure that is cheaper, but how many motherboards does he have installed?

BumpInTheNight:
Ideally though this is where your ability to bargain the cost down by splitting with your girlfriend and sell her on how much better the Mamma Mia bluray would look on a cool new 1080P LED vs whatever you've got, or in your case well I dunno. Do you like the Mamma Mia bluray? ;)

*talks to other half* if you can magic up a Bluray of Babylon 5 we'd consider subscribing to your newsletter.

I can not fing stand Mamma Mia.

/Wears a skirt sometimes.

BumpInTheNight: refurbs or the typical "Sorny/Tashabi" no-name brand knock offs.

There are only 2 - 3 factories making panels (or were). It's highly likley those knock-offs will have a Sharp or LG or Samsung panel in them and attendant controlling circuitry. They may not look as nice or have some of the features of a on-brand unit but the picture quality will be the same.

I'd swear my Technika had Sharp written on the panel's PCB when I poked my nose in there.

sarah_t_s: BumpInTheNight:
Ideally though this is where your ability to bargain the cost down by splitting with your girlfriend and sell her on how much better the Mamma Mia bluray would look on a cool new 1080P LED vs whatever you've got, or in your case well I dunno. Do you like the Mamma Mia bluray? ;)

*talks to other half* if you can magic up a Bluray of Babylon 5 we'd consider subscribing to your newsletter.

I can not fing stand Mamma Mia.

/Wears a skirt sometimes.

Did a quick lookup since that holds interest to me as well, unfortunately it looks like while all the live acting was done in a format that could translate to HD most of the CGI was only stored in 4:3 format, sounds like it'd take a tremendous amount of work. Hrm, would you settle for a ST:TNG in HD? ;)

sarah_t_s: ZiegZeon:
Wow, I really want to cock-punch that guy...it's everything wrong "hardcore gamerez" in one person. Miraculous.

I have been playing video games since the Spectrum 48k. I've played on NES, SNES, GC and Wii. I've played PS1 and PS2, I've had some interaction with an Xbox. I play extensively on the PC. I am by any definition you wish to make a "gamer" or "person who enjoys video games", I have gone without sleep because a game got my by the, metaphorical, balls before now.

Who is that? Should I know him? More importantly, why should I be paying attention to a person or company that can not spell the world Fatality correctly?

Oh, I game myself, the problem is they take people like him with the retarded "stop eating like a noob" tagline and misspelled name, then market him, and that's what people who do not game see when they think gamer.

And I know it shouldn't matter, but I see the PC Gamer endorsement and just think wtf is wrong with you?

Weidbrewer: Orgasmatron138: I always enjoyed video games like Metal Marines, Warcraft, Dark Alliance 1 and 2, etc.

However, as I got older, blah, blah, blah

Nice troll attempt.

He can finally grow in his whole beard without bald patches, so he thinks he's old and wizened.

sarah_t_s: Who is that? Should I know him? More importantly, why should I be paying attention to a person or company that can not spell the world Fatality correctly?

At one fleeting moment in time, he was the best Quake 3 player in the world. This was before video game tournaments were broadcast 24/7 on cable, so it was kind of a big deal. Then came the endorsements.

Personally I like having that Fatal11ty dude around, his name or face on a product is like a big red warning "This is trumped up garbage, don't buy this".
/if the words "Creative" or "Soundblaster" on the box weren't adequate.

timujin: SphericalTime: Blues_X: That Bloomberg article was, in truth, idiotic.

How so? Everyone knows that the average person always buys the most expensive products, always, without regard to situation or interest.

Don't all of your gamer friends buy 60-inch HD televisions for 4400 dollars? I know mine do.

/Yeah, idiotic sounds correct.

I did buy the 65-inch TV, but it was only $1800 at the time (and is now significantly cheaper) because I went with DLP. But that means I rarely go to the movies, so over the course of the life of the television, I'll probably save nearly as much as if I'd purchased something smaller and still went (say, $800 for the TV, plus $160/year for six years of movies, though I'll likely keep the TV longer)

And playing life-size first person shooters is fun :D


What brand/model? Straight DLP or is it LED based? Have you had trouble with it?

I only ask because I bought a 56" LED DLP and it's in the shop for the third or fourth time. Starting to contemplate a replacement... I got mine for like 60% off, but the cost of repairs is starting to really eat into my savings. :(

I myself am not a gamer and never have owned a game console or system. But for the life of me, I can't imagine why anyone would give two farks in a rat's arse what other people do with their entertainment & recreation dollars. You enjoy it? Have at it. More power to ya and god bless. Even if that Bloomberg article was 100% accurate... who the fark even cares?

You really don't want to know what I'm spending per year on international travel. Now that's an expensive farking hobby.

BumpInTheNight: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: BumpInTheNight:
Good luck finding a TV over 30" that is native 720P anymore..

Best Buy shows 62 different 720P tv's of 32"+ dimensions right now.

/But they're still pointless

You Americans and your increased market share, I should have said above 32" :P But yah when I check bestbuy.ca (sheer curiousity at this point) there's 13 of them listed, all of them are either 32" old school LCDs still listed but out of stock, refurbs or the typical "Sorny/Tashabi" no-name brand knock offs.

Hell, if you are looking for something with a good quality panel, it's also hard to find much that isn't 3D these days.

Hmm... having mostly read the Tom's Guide article and skimmed the first couple pages of the Bloomberg article you know what I think the silliest part is?

That Bloomberg thinks the kind of person who will drop $4,000 on a TV for games is only going to buy 1 console, and it's the XBox360 at that!

I mean, everything else aside how many gamers do you know who only have one console? Unless they're PC gamers... which is really the other dumb part: Assuming the PC gamer who buys the ultimate gaming rig also cares about console games. Yeah, sometimes that overlaps but a lot of PC gamers who _would_ shell out for the best PC think console gaming is for chumps.

Otherwise, I think this Tom guy hit the nail on the head. Bloomberg made a great wishlist... but very few of us are spending anywhere near that kind of money!