That's what we've been saying all along...

Premiums for the Medicare program that allows recipients to choose private insurance have dropped an average of 7% while enrollment has grown by 10%. The premium decline exceeded that predicted in September by HHS analysts, who said the premiums would drop 4%. Since 2010, records show, premiums have fallen 16% and enrollment has increased 17%.

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Worried? No. Hopeful? Yes.



/and not the crap discussed in TFA
//and, no, this isn't a "liberal" stance, it should be the rallying cry of conservatives everywhere who want to keep a few extra dollars in their pockets
///hint, you already pay for everyone else, it just costs more the way we do it.

My family and I are quite thankful for the "Socialized" health insurance we receive from the state at the moment.

We'd be farked if we didn't have it...


So many mean-spirited and greedy people in this country these days. It's pathetic.

it bugs me that the term socialism got so bastardized by idiots like this and the kindred idiots found on the right. as if anytime the government pays for anything or even simply regulates some event it's f*cking socialism. it makes it hard to have a thoughtful discussion when people, simply to create bias, adulterate terms to where they are unrecognizable.

dervish16108: The loss has been socialized for a long time.

The elderly (Medicare), the very poor (Medicaid), active military, inmates, and poor veterans. Everyone else, the health insurance cartels can make money from them. Everyone else will always be beholden to the health insurance companies. As long as people continue to support the status quo and be satisfied with their excuses, they're going to take it up the ass from the health insurance companies.

quit being so f*cking myopic. you're taking it up the ass from every healthcare provider currently in existence.

bulldg4life: The for profit health care system in Amerca is one of the biggest jokes every created by manfranklin delano roosevelt.

btw, wtf is with that middle name?
doesn't sound very WASPy at all.

True story bro...

Last weekend I was called in at midnight to sew up an unfortunate gentleman who was thrown through a windshield. He suffered severe facial trauma (pretty much every bone in his face was broken), a ruptured globe (ruptured eyeball) on the right, and what appears to be a crushed optic nerve on the left, complete with massive intra and sub-retinal hemorrhage. Along with the facial trauma team, I sewed up his eye rupture (no, it likely won't recover... too much damage), his lids, face, etc. Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to fix his left eye (even though the eye is intact, the nerve and retina appear to be beyond repair). All in all I've probably spent 7 or eight hours with him between the ER, OR, and ICU.

He doesn't have insurance. He's blind. He'll be in the hospital for weeks. Yes, he most likely will live.

So fearmongers... what should be done with him? Let him die? Throw him on the street? Should I receive compensation for my work? If so, who should pay me? What about the hospital? What about the other trauma surgeons? Nurses? Ambulance Drivers?

I don't want to be a government employee, I'm not for a completely socialized system, but we DO need some sort of catastrophic safety net, not just for patients, but for providers, hospitals, etc. His hospitalization will be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars... you'll end up paying for it through higher charges, and in turn higher premiums on your insurance. All with an extra 30% overhead for middlemen.

/real world is a lot more complicated than most arguments on Fark.

Norv Turner: This is stupid

I'm relatively young and healthy. I don't pay anything in healthcare costs and now I would be paying more for your dumbass?

Screw that

"Hey, you're young and swingin',
No time to think about tomorrow
But there ain't no way to deny it
Some day, you're gonna buy it.
Plan today,
Go with Ferryman tomorrow!
Ferryman, Ferryman,
he's the man with the plot, the man with the plan!
Ferryman, Ferryman,
He's the mortician man who loves you!
A lot!"

Norv Turner: This is stupid

I'm relatively young and healthy. I don't pay anything in healthcare costs and now I would be paying more for your dumbass?

Screw that

You're already paying for everyone else. We all are.