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Don't you hate when you get wrongfully arrested as a pedophile and have your face plastered on all the newspapers? Again?
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Sybarite
2012-02-01 12:13:06 PM
/yep
WeenerGord
2012-02-01 12:41:11 PM
Zombie Michael Jackson Raised From The Dead To Rape Again!
bulok
2012-02-01 12:41:25 PM
Oh I hate that. I can totally relate
rkiller1
2012-02-01 12:41:54 PM
mynameisdouglas
2012-02-01 12:42:56 PM
Those hispanics all look alike...
/came for the Dennis picture.
GoldSpider
2012-02-01 12:43:59 PM
It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
Flakeloaf
2012-02-01 12:44:42 PM
WeenerGord
:
Zombie Michael Jackson Raised From The Dead To Rape Again!
And by "again", you mean "for the first time" right?
/the dude was grade A weird
//no way that manchild put his shamon in anyone's heee-heeeee
Impasse
2012-02-01 12:44:47 PM
But this
begs
the question: How do we know he's
not
Mel Torme?
THX 1138
2012-02-01 12:46:11 PM
Sybarite:
Damn, first thing I thought of too.
Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher
2012-02-01 12:52:50 PM
Flakeloaf
:
//no way that manchild put his shamon in anyone's heee-heeeee
You were in the room with MJ and the kids every time he had a sleep over, and you just sit on this information while the poor man was dragged through the media and various court trials? Damn man, why would you do that to someone? Were you not supposed to be in the room with everyone? Were you looking through the windows and that is how you know? We need to know the specifics on this, since you were there and saw everything. You are one cold bastard to have proof that he never diddled kids, and then wait til years later and announce it on Fark of all places.
Joafu
2012-02-01 12:58:49 PM
THX 1138
:
Sybarite:
Damn, first thing I thought of too.
filter
2012-02-01 01:01:32 PM
It boggles my mind that the US media publishes names and photos of the "innocent until proven guilty." I moved to Norway, and unless you are an Anders Breivig, even if you are CONVICTED, you'll never have your name or photo in the media.
Seriously, just being charged with a crime and you might as well be guilty in the US.
....or course, this has more to do with the headline than the article...
phyrkrakr
2012-02-01 01:02:37 PM
Joafu
:
THX 1138: Sybarite:
Damn, first thing I thought of too.
What is that?
DigitalCoffee
2012-02-01 01:02:57 PM
WTF type of name is 'Cesar De La O'?? Sounds like a Mexican pron star.
/when he come into room all the lady say 'O!'
//when he work all the lady they give the 'O' face
Nem Wan
2012-02-01 01:04:21 PM
GoldSpider
:
It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
I disagree. Every wrongful arrest should result in the responsible person being fired and blacklisted from any job where they'd have that level of power. fark up somebody's life and your life gets farked up. That's justice. The there's a job opening and someone better can move up.
ihatedumbpeople
2012-02-01 01:08:54 PM
So, sue 'em. Bet they don't make that mistake again.
THX 1138
2012-02-01 01:13:59 PM
phyrkrakr
:
Joafu: THX 1138: Sybarite:
Damn, first thing I thought of too.
What is that?
Image from an episode of Always Sunny In Philadelphia. A child molester is released from prison and he's a look-alike for one of the main characters. Many hilarious beatings of the innocent guy ensue.
Incog_Neeto
2012-02-01 01:15:37 PM
Nem Wan
:
GoldSpider: It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
I disagree. Every wrongful arrest should result in the responsible person being fired and blacklisted from any job where they'd have that level of power. fark up somebody's life and your life gets farked up. That's justice. The there's a job opening and someone better can move up.
The department looks like idiots but they didn't jail him for 10 years, it was 5 days so lets not freak out to much. It would suck farking balls and the cops need to get their shiat together but in the grand scheme of things this is meh.
Joafu
2012-02-01 01:15:46 PM
phyrkrakr
:
Joafu: THX 1138: Sybarite:
Damn, first thing I thought of too.
What is that?
It's the commentary of the episode, but that's the episode.
(new window)
Nothing To See Here
2012-02-01 01:16:38 PM
Child Molester starts White Pride month off with a bang
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-02-01 01:20:37 PM
I hope the child of whoever thought it would be a good idea to redirect mobile users to your site's main page instead of the direct link they clicked on gets molested. Twice.
aseras
2012-02-01 01:20:59 PM
Nem Wan
:
GoldSpider: It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
I disagree. Every wrongful arrest should result in the responsible person being fired and blacklisted from any job where they'd have that level of power. fark up somebody's life and your life gets farked up. That's justice. The there's a job opening and someone better can move up.
This and treble damages and fines and punishment for any law enforcement official or someone "who should know better" ( like a politician or lobbyist ) who commits a crime or abuses the law to their advantage. Remove immunity for prosecutors and police. They kick the wrong door in, or shoot someone innocent, they get farked hardcore. You'd fix almost all the corruption and ooppsies overnight.
Five Minute Standup
2012-02-01 01:26:30 PM
GoldSpider
:
It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
See, now, that's funny because I have you in gray as "Paterno Defender"
lackadaisicalfreakshow
2012-02-01 01:26:42 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
:
I hope the child of whoever thought it would be a good idea to redirect mobile users to your site's main page instead of the direct link they clicked on gets molested. Twice.
Why the hell would you think it's ok to wish that on some moron's kid? Not like the kid had any say in the matter.
Now the idiot who programmed that freaking mess... here's hoping he or she gets the world's worst ingrown toenail. And it gets stepped on by a horse.
SevenYearHawk
2012-02-01 01:27:43 PM
"You don't put a playground next to a bar. That's entrapment."
GoldSpider
2012-02-01 01:31:18 PM
Five Minute Standup
:
GoldSpider: It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
See, now, that's funny because I have you in gray as "Paterno Defender"
Damn, cover blown after only one bite :(
Flakeloaf
2012-02-01 01:35:31 PM
Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher
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Flakeloaf: //no way that manchild put his shamon in anyone's heee-heeeee
You were in the room with MJ and the kids every time he had a sleep over, and you just sit on this information while the poor man was dragged through the media and various court trials? Damn man, why would you do that to someone? Were you not supposed to be in the room with everyone? Were you looking through the windows and that is how you know? We need to know the specifics on this, since you were there and saw everything. You are one cold bastard to have proof that he never diddled kids, and then wait til years later and announce it on Fark of all places.
Well the kids who made the complaints
admitted they did it for the money
and/or at their parents' behest, and that they were never raped by MJ, so there's that. Gavin Arvizo and Jordan Chandler have both recanted - not that Chandler's story made a lot of sense to begin with because the totally accurate description he was alleged to give of Jackson's weiner wasn't exactly accurate. Chandler's father even killed himself because people were calling him what he was.
It's pretty common dog among everyone who knew the man (a group that does not include me) that he had stupendously poor judgment and the mind of a twelve year old. He showered with boys, played juvenile "I'll show you x" games and shared a bed with them while unclothed. That's some serious Grade A creepy and the guy deserved something for thinking that was ok, but it's extremely unlikely that he cast it in anything even close to a sexual context. He just wasn't wired that way.
DrRatchet
2012-02-01 01:35:58 PM
The El Paso County Sheriff's Office said
it didn't drop the ball
in the case of Cesar De La O.
... Silva was able to get enough of De La O's personal information and give it to police during an arrest in El Paso that the justice system in El Paso believed that Silva was in fact De La O.
Ladies and Gentleman, your
Dunning-Kruger
statement of the day.
Really, it's Colorado's fault that El Paso couldn't figure out that Lorenzo Silva was Lorenzo Silva? I don't think so.
susler
2012-02-01 01:52:58 PM
The department looks like idiots but they didn't jail him for 10 years, it was 5 days so lets not freak out to much. It would suck farking balls and the cops need to get their shiat together but in the grand scheme of things this is meh.
Really, you get locked up for 5 days and have your picture in the paper. See how meh it really is.
Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher
2012-02-01 02:03:35 PM
Flakeloaf
:
Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: Flakeloaf: //no way that manchild put his shamon in anyone's heee-heeeee
You were in the room with MJ and the kids every time he had a sleep over, and you just sit on this information while the poor man was dragged through the media and various court trials? Damn man, why would you do that to someone? Were you not supposed to be in the room with everyone? Were you looking through the windows and that is how you know? We need to know the specifics on this, since you were there and saw everything. You are one cold bastard to have proof that he never diddled kids, and then wait til years later and announce it on Fark of all places.
Well the kids who made the complaints admitted they did it for the money and/or at their parents' behest, and that they were never raped by MJ, so there's that. Gavin Arvizo and Jordan Chandler have both recanted - not that Chandler's story made a lot of sense to begin with because the totally accurate description he was alleged to give of Jackson's weiner wasn't exactly accurate. Chandler's father even killed himself because people were calling him what he was.
It's pretty common dog among everyone who knew the man (a group that does not include me) that he had stupendously poor judgment and the mind of a twelve year old. He showered with boys, played juvenile "I'll show you x" games and shared a bed with them while unclothed. That's some serious Grade A creepy and the guy deserved something for thinking that was ok, but it's extremely unlikely that he cast it in anything even close to a sexual context. He just wasn't wired that way.
I'm just giving you shiat. I'm not sold on the idea that he did it either, despite him being one creepy, weird dude. I just don't have enough confidence to state it outright in a Fark thread. I guess I should say I wouldn't be surprised if he touched little kids, or if he didn't. Hows that for being committed to an opinion.
Benjimin_Dover
2012-02-01 02:07:49 PM
Flakeloaf
:
WeenerGord: Zombie Michael Jackson Raised From The Dead To Rape Again!
And by "again", you mean "for the first time" right?
/the dude was grade A weird
//no way that manchild put his shamon in anyone's heee-heeeee
That's because MJ was a catcher not a pitcher.
Flakeloaf
2012-02-01 02:11:28 PM
Flakeloaf
:
Chandler's father even killed himself because people were calling him what he was.
Slight correction: He killed himself because he was severely depressed and battling a "serious illness". He'd had multiple plastic surgeries and become seriously strung out under the crush of people calling him out for being the scumbag he apparently was.
Flakeloaf
2012-02-01 02:14:25 PM
Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher
:
I'm just giving you shiat. I'm not sold on the idea that he did it either, despite him being one creepy, weird dude. I just don't have enough confidence to state it outright in a Fark thread. I guess I should say I wouldn't be surprised if he touched little kids, or if he didn't. Hows that for being committed to an opinion.
I can't say I agree with that post at all, except for the parts I really like. I probably have too much faith in it given how much I personally witnessed (frigall) and how many of these people I actually know. Together, we are the RATIONAL OPINION SQUAD!
Porous Horace
2012-02-01 02:30:47 PM
Not so much fun being rightfully arrested either.
What are you all looking at?
Gergesa
2012-02-01 02:53:49 PM
GoldSpider
:
It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
Now this is a efficient troll. Some trolls don't know how to pursue cost efficiency but with only 11 words goldspider manages to encapsulate the entire "won't someone please think of the children" and the absurd paranoia that seems to be prevalent today. Kudos to you. You have a future in politics.
JerkStore
2012-02-01 02:58:00 PM
Incog_Neeto
:
Nem Wan: GoldSpider: It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
I disagree. Every wrongful arrest should result in the responsible person being fired and blacklisted from any job where they'd have that level of power. fark up somebody's life and your life gets farked up. That's justice. The there's a job opening and someone better can move up.
The department looks like idiots but they didn't jail him for 10 years, it was 5 days so lets not freak out to much. It would suck farking balls and the cops need to get their shiat together but in the grand scheme of things this is meh.
No, it's not. It's going to show up on background checks, which more and more employers are doing these days. It's going to show up when he gets pulled over for speeding, when a cop is behind him at a light and runs his plates, or even with those new plate-hunting cameras mounted on police cars. It's going to happen when he applies for a loan and they run a background check. And five days in jail as a farking
CHILD MOLESTER
when you're innocent? Why not try that on for size, Sparky, see how "meh" you feel on day two.
My brother, who is a Grade-A farkup, is currently serving time in Arizona for knocking over a liquor store. Previous to that, every time he'd get caught farking up, he'd give them my name and Social Security number, and my mother's old address (where, of course, I used to live). There are warrants for my arrest all over the country, from a DUI in Florida that made it impossible for me to renew my driver's license, to an assault charge in Oregon or Washington, which makes cops pull me over because the computer has flagged me, my cars, and my license (which I now have thanks to my congressman). I've also been sued by the state of Arizona for a guard rail he wiped out on a drunken bender, and as a result of that, it was impossible for me to get a car loan for a few years and my first mortgage was yanked hours before closing because of it. I've been strip searched, handcuffed and taken into custody and my car left by the side of the road with the keys in it, and detained for hours because everyone thought they were hero cops bringing in a "bad guy" with a string of outstanding warrants. I expect to be pulled over once every two or three months because of it, and about 1/3 of the time the cops don't bother to read the screen notes and check for tattoos, and instead cuff me and haul me in. 2/3 of the time, they will either listen to me and say they understand, or will put me in the back of the squad car in handcuffs until I explain to them that they need to farking READ the screen and do the right thing.
Yeah, I'm pissed about it, and no, there's really nothing that can be done to fix it beyond the notes that are in some police databases, but not others. $10,000 paid to three lawyers in two states, plus my congressman, have all said there's no permanent solution. My only hope is that my brother farks up so badly he stays in jail permanently so at least he can't add any MORE to the ones that are already out there and mostly sorted out.
So yeah, this shiat can really fark up your life, and your only crime was having a name and a social security number. It sure as hell ain't, "Meh."
DrRatchet
2012-02-01 03:33:13 PM
GoldSpider
:
It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
And even that wasn't accomplished. Remember, when cops arrest the
wrong
guy, they stop looking for the
right
guy.
aseras
2012-02-01 04:40:24 PM
JerkStore
:
Incog_Neeto: Nem Wan: GoldSpider: It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
I disagree. Every wrongful arrest should result in the responsible person being fired and blacklisted from any job where they'd have that level of power. fark up somebody's life and your life gets farked up. That's justice. The there's a job opening and someone better can move up.
The department looks like idiots but they didn't jail him for 10 years, it was 5 days so lets not freak out to much. It would suck farking balls and the cops need to get their shiat together but in the grand scheme of things this is meh.
No, it's not. It's going to show up on background checks, which more and more employers are doing these days. It's going to show up when he gets pulled over for speeding, when a cop is behind him at a light and runs his plates, or even with those new plate-hunting cameras mounted on police cars. It's going to happen when he applies for a loan and they run a background check. And five days in jail as a farking CHILD MOLESTER when you're innocent? Why not try that on for size, Sparky, see how "meh" you feel on day two.
My brother, who is a Grade-A farkup, is currently serving time in Arizona for knocking over a liquor store. Previous to that, every time he'd get caught farking up, he'd give them my name and Social Security number, and my mother's old address (where, of course, I used to live). There are warrants for my arrest all over the country, from a DUI in Florida that made it impossible for me to renew my driver's license, to an assault charge in Oregon or Washington, which makes cops pull me over because the computer has flagged me, my cars, and my license (which I now have thanks to my congressman). I've also been sued by the state of Arizona for a guard rail he wiped out on a drunken bender, and as a result of that, it was impossible for me to get a car loan for a few years and my first mortgage was yanked hours before closing because of it. I've be ...
You do know you can get a new social security number? There's a program set up especially for people like you.
JerkStore
2012-02-01 05:00:51 PM
aseras
:
JerkStore: Incog_Neeto: Nem Wan: GoldSpider: You do know you can get a new social security number? There's a program set up especially for people like you.
I'm actually on my second one. But do you really think you can evade arrest warrants merely by getting a new social security number? Sadly (yet fortunately), that's not how it works.
The problem is that all these databases are sort-of connected, just enough for the information to get garbled. I don't just get picked up by my social security number. It's tied to my license plates, to my home address, and to my name as well. My girlfriend has been pulled over driving my car, for example, and they demanded to know where I was RIGHT THAT MOMENT so they could go arrest me.
If I get pulled over by a young cop, he's not going to read everything on the screen about new social security numbers and tattoos and the wanted person's aliases and the suspect already being in jail, he's just going to see the red box at the top that says "OUTSTANDING ARREST WARRANT" and think he's going to be a hero. He won't listen to my story ("Yeah, tell it to the judge," is something I've heard at least once), and he certainly isn't interested in looking through the documentation I carry in my car. Old cops are cool, they've usually seen it before and they'll listen to my story, but the rookies think they're saving the world. I've even had one pull a gun on me because he thought I was some desperado, not a 42 year old guy driving a station wagon.
Unfortunately, merely changing my social security number didn't do it. Perhaps changing my name, my address, my social security number, and never owning a car or taking out a loan or getting a passport might make me sufficiently invisible, but a mere SS number change won't erase all the connections in all those databases. And the sad thing is that once you're in there, that's pretty much it. Nobody can go through and clean them all, because while they all talk to each other, they aren't the same system. Hell, I had a job interview where they owner of the company said, "When can you start," and the next morning they wouldn't even accept my call--my guess is they did a background check and all this came up.
The best I've had is the courts telling me that I could come to court and let them have a trial. If it wasn't me, they won't be able to prove it, right? I tried that in two places (hence the $10,000 worth of lawyers) and in both cases they merely issued a "not me affidavit" which said that the JerkStore on the wanted poster wasn't this particular JerkStore. It didn't go away, it merely provided me with a piece of paper to show the cops when I'm stopped (who don't bother to read it anyway when they think they're saving the world).
That's why this guy in the article is farked--he's going to remain labeled as a child molester in at least a few of those databases, and it will follow him forever. Sooner or later, someone WILL use that database to look him up and it'll start all over again...
sarah_t_s
2012-02-01 05:46:44 PM
JerkStore
:
Stuff
Pretty much yeah. Most people don't realise how little various departments share information between each other. It is, as you've discovered, perfectly possible for one of these databases to go considerable amounts of time between syncs with the others. It's also quite possible for another entity to appear, grab an old copy of another entities database and even if you managed to deal with the original you're right back to square one with the new people.
The 'saving the world' attitude you've encountered would probably be the same as 'the computer says no'. If the machine tells them your a criminal... your a criminal and there is no arguing with the machine.
foxyshadis
2012-02-01 06:07:33 PM
JerkStore
:
My brother, who is a Grade-A farkup, is currently serving time in Arizona for knocking over a liquor store. Previous to that, every time he'd get caught farking up, he'd give them my name and Social Security number, and my mother's old address (where, of course, I used to live). There are warrants for my arrest all over the country, from a DUI in Florida that made it impossible for me to renew my driver's license, to an assault charge in Oregon or Washington, which makes cops pull me over because the computer has flagged me, my cars, and my license (which I now have thanks to my congressman). I've also been sued by the state of Arizona for a guard rail he wiped out on a drunken bender, and as a result of that, it was impossible for me to get a car loan for a few years and my first mortgage was yanked hours before closing because of it. I've be ...
Damn. You know, despite being the fastest growing crime of the last 5 years and being splashed all over the news on a nearly daily basis, our country still really just doesn't give a shiat about identity theft. And instead of following the news and making it easier to clear your name, it just keeps getting harder, with new databases going in all the time, private databases with no controls, hunches of whomever has the ability to enter information, no laws allowing you to see your own profile or add mitigating information, and absolutely zero appeal process.
Until it happens to them, most people just shrug it off as not a big deal, since they
know
that all they'll have to do is explain the situation and everyone will
have
to nod their head understandingly and help them clear it all up.
I hope that you've at least won a lawsuit or two against the worst PDs, and against that mortgage servicer who screwed you over and wasted everyone's time.
Your Average Witty Fark User
2012-02-01 09:46:14 PM
GoldSpider
:
It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
You're absolutely correct... and since you're capable of molesting kids at some point down the road, it's off to jail for you, for life. For the kids, you know?
/farking moron
I'd sure the FARKING SHIAT out of everyone involved in this.
bahknee
2012-02-02 03:15:35 AM
aseras
:
Nem Wan: GoldSpider: It's always better to err on the side of protecting children.
I disagree. Every wrongful arrest should result in the responsible person being fired and blacklisted from any job where they'd have that level of power. fark up somebody's life and your life gets farked up. That's justice. The there's a job opening and someone better can move up.
This and
treble damages
and fines and punishment for any law enforcement official or someone "who should know better" ( like a politician or lobbyist ) who commits a crime or abuses the law to their advantage. Remove immunity for prosecutors and police. They kick the wrong door in, or shoot someone innocent, they get farked hardcore. You'd fix almost all the corruption and ooppsies overnight.
Olympus Mons
2012-02-02 09:07:18 AM
In general, until someone is found actually guilty of a crime, I think they should not have their imagine released. I noticed this more in rape cases were a woman accuses a man of rape, and her face is blotted out. His is just out there for everybody to see. The excuse is to protect the victim....but there have been cases you know, were a woman knowing lied about being raped, or pointed the finger at the wrong guy. Not against the victim have their face hidden, just do the same for the "not found guilty yet" too.
Same goes for these cases. I just think the system should be able to deal with it, without the "look at the guilty guy who has nothing to lose from his image being out there" advertising
Benjimin_Dover
2012-02-02 01:27:12 PM
Olympus Mons
:
In general, until someone is found actually guilty of a crime, I think they should not have their imagine released. I noticed this more in rape cases were a woman accuses a man of rape, and her face is blotted out. His is just out there for everybody to see. The excuse is to protect the victim....but there have been cases you know, were a woman knowing lied about being raped, or pointed the finger at the wrong guy. Not against the victim have their face hidden, just do the same for the "not found guilty yet" too.
Same goes for these cases. I just think the system should be able to deal with it, without the "look at the guilty guy who has nothing to lose from his image being out there" advertising
It should be the same thing. If the face of the accused is visible then the face of the accuser is visible and vise versa.
If society is to keep the accusors face hidden, then the price society should demand in return is that any accusor who is found to be falsly accusing gets the same sentence possibilities the accused could have gotten.
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