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georgeyporgey
2012-02-01 11:16:19 AM
Wow, That was so 2011!
hubcity
2012-02-01 11:16:51 AM
Yeah, 'cause when all those folks go home, it's because they're happy now.
Watchtower's Fiction Editor
2012-02-01 11:17:36 AM
The article says they plan to relocate somewhere nearby and regroup as they already have in several other cities. What is this 'dissolution' subby speaks of?
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-02-01 11:18:18 AM
Man, that was quick. What, did a new Apple product come out, or something?
DubyaHater
2012-02-01 11:19:12 AM
This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
GORDON
2012-02-01 11:19:38 AM
Oh come on they were getting so much done i dont even
bugmn99
2012-02-01 11:21:07 AM
What's the difference between ousting and rousting?
CruJones
2012-02-01 11:22:21 AM
Watchtower's Fiction Editor
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The article says they plan to relocate somewhere nearby and regroup as they already have in several other cities. What is this 'dissolution' subby speaks of?
I assume it has to do with the fact no one seems to care about this any more. It has completely disappeared from my Facebook feed, and I almost never see it on the news any more. It's dying.
like tears in rain
2012-02-01 11:23:02 AM
They're the citizens of this country. They're not going anywhere.
stuhayes2010
2012-02-01 11:23:41 AM
The whole world is going "meh..."
tenpoundsofcheese
2012-02-01 11:26:25 AM
"dozens" of protesters in Miami is hardly part of a movement.
it barely is a good superbowl party.
LoneWolf343
2012-02-01 11:26:29 AM
DubyaHater
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This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
Ooo, I almost bit.
Rufus Lee King
2012-02-01 11:27:00 AM
Here in Charleston, SC the college kids had "Occupy Marion Square" (a downtown park). Nobody cared. Now, if they really wanted people to notice them, they should have organized "Occupy Fort Sumter".
Yeah, it's been done before, but still...
Kazan
2012-02-01 11:27:29 AM
because the corporate news media deciding to collectively start ignore protestors who are largely anti-corporate [for bad corporations] until they can construct a negative narrative about them [when the police come in to break up the camps] totally means the occupy movement is dissolving.
as one occupy person pointed out - if only we enforced finance laws as vigorously as park rules.
Zeno-25
2012-02-01 11:28:39 AM
DubyaHater
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This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
3\10
Not only will the Tea Party be dead in 5 or 10 years, but so will most of the old white people who make up their ranks.
Bob16
2012-02-01 11:29:45 AM
Oh yeah Floriduh is a real hotbed of radicalism and protest.
If OWS loses that state it's a black eye for the movement.
SuburbanCowboy
2012-02-01 11:32:27 AM
You can pretend all you want that the Occupy Movement hasn't accomplished anything, but from where I sit, I see the national dialog changing dramatically. The discussion about wealth disparity, and the low tax rates paid by the rich didn't happen by itself. When I look at what people are talking about on Facebook, I see plenty of people discussing Monsanto. I see big news articles about worker abuse at Foxconn. These are all issues that the Occupy movement are helping to bring more attention to.
m2313
2012-02-01 11:33:38 AM
DubyaHater
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This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
Pretty sure this is a troll. But for the hell of it:
1) Whether or not they smoke pot isn't really relevant. There's nothing ethically wrong with it, it should be legal, even then, as hodge-podge and messy as movements get, this hasn't really been a "legalize it" rally.
2) Occupy contains a multitude of different beliefs, it's not just a liberal thing.
3) A large reason they're out there is because they are seeking employment and can't find it.
4)And why shouldn't they be able to?
5) The TPP are "well organized" insofar as they're a hierarchy that is basically a subsection of the Republican Party (if it wasn't in the past, it is now). Occupy is based on precepts inherited from autonomous and anarchist tactics, it may seem disorganized, but the intent is a different social order.
6) The Tea Party is notorious for bullshiat and misspelled signs, not education.
7)They show concern for destroying the country. Oakland aside, Occupy isn't (in most people's minds) about overthrowing or dissolving America. If they really wanted to do that, they'd stay home and vote Republican until shiat hit the fan. They're out there because they're trying to dig their heels in from regression and progress away from a revolutionary situation. Most of them want reform, not revolt.
8) The Tea Party had just as many different causes as Occupy does, and came off just as incoherent, even though they were organized top-down for the most part.
big pig peaches
2012-02-01 11:33:52 AM
They really should stick it out. They have accomplished so much already.
hitlersbrain
2012-02-01 11:37:53 AM
DubyaHater
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This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
The Tea party never really was. It was an artificial 'grass roots' movement funded by people with more money than god for the sole purpose of exploiting brainwashed drones into supporting things that are actually bad for them. It stands for nothing but the power that is already in control.
REAL movement are messy, dirty and authority does not like them... because they are NOT fake and run by those with powerful connections.
Just FYI.
Anonymous Bosch
2012-02-01 11:38:17 AM
I warned friends in Occupy various times that the media and the public are easily bored and they need something- a demand, a message that isn't six rambling Goddamn pages long,
anything
-for people to latch onto. The one soundbitey thing they did produce, the 99%/1% slogan, I'm still hearing. Occupy itself I am not still hearing about very much.
Last month I was reading Playboy's interview with MLK and there was a part where he said the worst results he ever got were from not protesting a specific thing and instead organizing a more generalized protest against racism. You have to pick something specific and symbolic and
go after it
.
hitlersbrain
2012-02-01 11:39:40 AM
big pig peaches
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They really should stick it out. They have accomplished so much already.
Yeah, forcing the republicans to vote for or against insider trading is a good start. Let's hope they keep it up.
Observatory
2012-02-01 11:40:32 AM
OWS isin't going away anytime soon.
Stay tuned for the American Spring.
wmoonfox
2012-02-01 11:43:49 AM
TFA:
The park service's anti-camping regulations at federally owned McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza are valid, but the service must give protesters a full day's notice before any clear-out, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg said.
Clear out for a day, then come back and make them repeat the eviction process. Two days in; one day out... repeat ad nauseum. The only way to beat them is with their own regulations.
Bob16
2012-02-01 11:48:09 AM
Observatory
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OWS isin't going away anytime soon.
Stay tuned for the American Spring.
Why should they go away.
They took over the state of the union message last week. He'll they've even taken over some of the negative ads being used by republicans against other republicans.
They are in your head america.
simusid
2012-02-01 11:54:01 AM
m2313
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7)They show concern for destroying the country. Oakland aside, Occupy isn't (in most people's minds) about overthrowing or dissolving America. If they really wanted to do that, they'd stay home and vote Republican until shiat hit the fan. They're out there because they're trying to dig their heels in from regression and progress away from a revolutionary situation. Most of them want reform, not revolt.
I've tried to follow the OWS movement and keep up with news articles. I've read the in-depth stories from Time and most recently the one in Rolling Stone (don't laugh, they have some good writers!) You say "most of them want reform". Even after all these months I still don't know what they really want other than, as you said, a job. The RS prattled on for a while before they got to a concrete interview with a high school dropout and self-proclaimed failed high school janitor. Why do I need to reform for THAT guy??
Crotchrocket Slim
2012-02-01 11:54:23 AM
Anonymous Bosch
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I warned friends in Occupy various times that the media and the public are easily bored and they need something- a demand, a message that isn't six rambling Goddamn pages long, anything -for people to latch onto. The one soundbitey thing they did produce, the 99%/1% slogan, I'm still hearing. Occupy itself I am not still hearing about very much.
Last month I was reading Playboy's interview with MLK and there was a part where he said the worst results he ever got were from not protesting a specific thing and instead organizing a more generalized protest against racism. You have to pick something specific and symbolic and go after it.
I'd say that popularizing 99%/1% line was an accomplishment in and of itself, considering how many people make political decisions based on the delusion that they themselves will be millionaires etc. too. Getting people to look at the country as it actually functions instead of how they want it to function is necessary if we ever want to find solutions that serve more than very small, well-connected portions of our society.
Thunderbox
2012-02-01 11:56:25 AM
99 % of the 99 % ers are happy with the status quo.
Yaxe
2012-02-01 11:56:51 AM
Tea Party: Astro-turf movement.
OWS: Grass Roots.
What it'll take to accomplish something: Bloody, Bloody, revolution.
m2313
2012-02-01 12:00:52 PM
simusid
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m2313: 7)They show concern for destroying the country. Oakland aside, Occupy isn't (in most people's minds) about overthrowing or dissolving America. If they really wanted to do that, they'd stay home and vote Republican until shiat hit the fan. They're out there because they're trying to dig their heels in from regression and progress away from a revolutionary situation. Most of them want reform, not revolt.
I've tried to follow the OWS movement and keep up with news articles. I've read the in-depth stories from Time and most recently the one in Rolling Stone (don't laugh, they have some good writers!) You say "most of them want reform". Even after all these months I still don't know what they really want other than, as you said, a job. The RS prattled on for a while before they got to a concrete interview with a high school dropout and self-proclaimed failed high school janitor. Why do I need to reform for THAT guy??
*shrug*
That question is taking the collective desire for reform in an entire movement and phrasing it as though you're fighting for just that one individual. I'm sure there are assholes in every movement.
As OWS's title suggest, it's mostly economic reform. Mainly the reform of finance capitalism, but the movement is made up of whoever is in it so sometimes it's environmental reform, or healthcare or labor disputes. The general idea behind all the desired reforms is to live in a nation where profit and corporations don't come before human needs and the ability to live reasonably and to filter out the economic inequality we have.
IMO, the reason the response is so varied for different causes and reforms is because America is a joke and a clusterfark compared to most first world nations and people are vying for healthcare, homes, better working conditions that they know could be possible. And the movement is horizontal and inclusive so there are dozens of different philosophies and different solutions they want to try, etc. I also see it as kind of a desire to reclaim the commons and a sense of community/public life.
karnal
2012-02-01 12:02:11 PM
The lack of DIMS now coming to the Occupy's defense is hilarious....not more than a month ago they were clambering all over themselves to support them.
I poop on you.
Julie Cochrane
2012-02-01 12:08:57 PM
First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then they laugh at you. Then-- What the hell were we talking about again?
phyrkrakr
2012-02-01 12:11:11 PM
simusid
:
I've tried to follow the OWS movement and keep up with news articles. I've read the in-depth stories from Time and most recently the one in Rolling Stone (don't laugh, they have some good writers!) You say "most of them want reform". Even after all these months I still don't know what they really want other than, as you said, a job. The RS prattled on for a while before they got to a concrete interview with a high school dropout and self-proclaimed failed high school janitor. Why do I need to reform for THAT guy??
Look, it's simple. Economic injustice exists in so many forms, listing all of them gives you a forty page manifesto. But when somebody asks what they want and they say "end economic injustice" they get slammed for not being specific enough.
Three main things off the top of my head, though, that would work towards a lot of the issues at large in the group: 1) Repeal Gramm-Leach-Blaly (I always spell the last name wrong) which would separate investment and normal banks again, 2) enforce anti-trust provisions that would break up the telecommunications/entertainment/media industries (which are so closely linked already it's regoddamndiculous) and finally, allow student loan debt to be dischargeable in bankruptcy like it used to be before higher education costs grew exponentially and banks discovered how much money there was to be made loaning money to 18 y.o. suckers.
tdyak
2012-02-01 12:11:25 PM
bugmn99
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What's the difference between ousting and rousting?
An '
r
', duh.
GoBadgers
2012-02-01 12:23:47 PM
Brought a pile of firewood to the Occupy Madison folks last weekend. They were very appreciative, and they're still there.
Mykeru
2012-02-01 12:24:52 PM
m2313
:
DubyaHater: This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
Pretty sure this is a troll. But for the hell of it:
1) Whether or not they smoke pot isn't really relevant. There's nothing ethically wrong with it, it should be legal, even then, as hodge-podge and messy as movements get, this hasn't really been a "legalize it" rally.
2) Occupy contains a multitude of different beliefs, it's not just a liberal thing.
3) A large reason they're out there is because they are seeking employment and can't find it.
4)And why shouldn't they be able to?
5) The TPP are "well organized" insofar as they're a hierarchy that is basically a subsection of the Republican Party (if it wasn't in the past, it is now). Occupy is based on precepts inherited from autonomous and anarchist tactics, it may seem disorganized, but the intent is a different social order.
6) The Tea Party is notorious for bullshiat and misspelled signs, not education.
7)They show concern for destroying the country. Oakland aside, Occupy isn't (in most people's minds) about overthrowing or dissolving America. If they really wanted to do that, they'd stay home and vote Republican until shiat hit the fan. They're out there because they're trying to dig their heels in from regression and progress away from a revolutionary situation. Most of them want reform, not revolt.
8) The Tea Party had just as many different causes as Occupy does, and came off just as incoherent, even though they were organized top-down for the most part.
This is why we can't have nice trolls.
Guidette Frankentits
2012-02-01 12:25:28 PM
Found this in my hotel room
Ecobuckeye
2012-02-01 12:25:50 PM
Yaxe
:
Tea Party: Astro-turf movement.
OWS: Grass Roots.
What it'll take to accomplish something: Bloody, Bloody, revolution.
If I learned anything in high school football, it's that blood makes the grass grow.
On Again
2012-02-01 12:26:29 PM
Sigh.
TanClan32773
2012-02-01 12:44:03 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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Man, that was quick. What, did a new Apple product come out, or something?
No, they're waiting on the results of Groundhog Day.
/Early spring=back to the park!
Lunaville
2012-02-01 12:46:19 PM
I'll believe the Occupy Movement is done and over when FARK no longer has links and/or headlines declaring it is done and over.
Of course, that will be a sad, sad day for some posters. Where will they go to declare the superiority of the Tea Party Movement?
Guidette Frankentits
2012-02-01 01:01:51 PM
On Again
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Sigh.
Great photo
Big_Fat_Liar
2012-02-01 02:22:33 PM
Lunaville
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I'll believe the Occupy Movement is done and over when FARK no longer has links and/or headlines declaring it is done and over.
Of course, that will be a sad, sad day for some posters. Where will they go to declare the superiority of the Tea Party Movement?
To work.
Trucker
2012-02-01 03:07:13 PM
Behold! A list of the occupy movement's successes:
1. ...
2. ...
3. ...
That is all.
Guidette Frankentits
2012-02-01 03:14:54 PM
Trucker
:
Behold! A list of the occupy movement's successes:
1.
NDAA passed
2. ...
3. ...
That is all.
OWS happens, NDAA proposed, passed and signed into law.
You can't explain that.
gyttam
2012-02-01 03:26:51 PM
To be fair, plenty of people predicted this would happen once the fierce Miami winter set in.
Crotchrocket Slim
2012-02-01 03:51:54 PM
Big_Fat_Liar
:
Lunaville: I'll believe the Occupy Movement is done and over when FARK no longer has links and/or headlines declaring it is done and over.
Of course, that will be a sad, sad day for some posters. Where will they go to declare the superiority of the Tea Party Movement?
To work.
Why didn't you send them to Galifrey while you're not being serious?
Wook
2012-02-01 04:06:39 PM
Zeno-25
:
DubyaHater: This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely. The Occupy movement is a collection of pot-smoking liberals who want to avoid employment. They feel they can just live for free on public land.
The Teat Party Patriots are well organized, educated, and show actual concern for this country. They have a clear agenda for the US of A.
3\10
Not only will the Tea Party be dead in 5 or 10 years, but so will most of the old white people who make up their ranks.
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I'm 42. I'll be a Tea Part member long enough to piss off you liberals for the next 30+ years.
Since we actually have to support the lazy asses of this Country and pay for our incompetant leaders in all sectors of Government, you can safely assume we aren't going anywhere.
Lunaville
2012-02-01 04:12:02 PM
Trucker
:
Behold! A list of the occupy movement's successes:
1. ...
2. ...
3. ...
That is all.
I suppose it be considered minor, but Occupy Atlanta has stopped three foreclosures and counting including the house of an Iraq war vet and a 108 year old church.
But then you might be the type of person that doesn't care about homeowners, vets, or Christians.
wkiernan
2012-02-01 05:50:31 PM
DubyaHater:
This is why the Occupy movement will be gone in six months and the Tea Party Patriots will continue on indefinitely.
Well, there's that, and also the way police allow Teatards to run around with loaded AR-15s at rallies attended by members of Congress with complete impunity, while OWS supporters get beaten, teargassed, and jailed for "crimes" such as writing with colored chalk on sidewalks.
I am actually old enough to remember watching on teevee as the Selma police attacked civil-rights demonstrators with firehoses and police dogs, but, you know, that was in Alabama, one of those disgusting old Confederacy states, where you expected the cops to be berserk with racism just like the majority of the whites who infest the place. But today we see the police have viciously attacked OWS demonstrators not just in the swinish old South but from coast to coast. Well, given the choice between supporting the 99% of which they are actually a part, or slavishly kissing the asses of the exalted 1%, the nation's cops have chosen their side, I guess.
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