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2012-02-01 12:36:30 PM

Pocket Ninja: I don't think she meant Joseph Stalin when she used the term "stalinesque," though. Comparing her opponents to Joseph Stalin would be engaging in the same sort of "politics of personal destruction" that renders the Left so abysmally hollow and wretched, and I just can't see Mrs. Palin doing that. She's many things, some of them possibly negative, but a hypocrite? I don't think so. I think what she meant was that their tactics were "stalling-esque," and she was misquoted (because if there's anything the lamestream media likes to do, it's misquote Sarah Palin). She means they're using stalling tactics to prevent Newt Gingrich from having a fair shake. You know, airing lies and then taking too long to retract them, that sort of thing. Can you really say she's wrong?


Well, Carl Stalling's not around to object to their using his music at campaign rallies, so you may be onto something.
 
2012-02-01 12:36:57 PM
Aw, somebody taught Sarah a new word. Bless her heart.

/damn you, McCain
 
2012-02-01 12:37:51 PM

theknuckler_33: PlatinumDragon: What's with the Alinsky obsession?

He wrote a book called "Rules for Radicals" which is the bible by which that radical 0bama fooled the masses into allowing him to usurp the presidency. It's all about how to destroy conservatives and praises Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, etc.


Damn you Poe's Law!
 
2012-02-01 12:38:42 PM
New Rules: Who the Fark is Saul Alinsky? (new window) via Moveon.org.
 
2012-02-01 12:39:01 PM
"The Republican establishment which fought Ronald Reagan in the 1970s and which continues to fight the grassroots Tea Party movement today has adopted the tactics of the left in using the media and the politics of personal destruction to attack an opponent."

That shiat kills me.

Kerry and McCain were both attacked mercilessly by the right using these tactics. Obama has been under constant attack since he first announced his candidacy.

What the fark makes her think these are "tactics of the left"?

This woman is a blight on America.
 
2012-02-01 12:39:28 PM

imapirate: Who?


Léon Trotsky.

Performer of such great hits as "If I Ruled the World", and ""I'm jest an old-fashioned girl ...", not to mention "Jack in the Box" because she pops up all the time.

Clodagh Rogers.

Léon Trotsky. Clodagh Rogers. Léon Trotsky. Clodagh Rogers.

Evita.

Wait, what?
 
2012-02-01 12:39:57 PM

GhostFish: "The Republican establishment which fought Ronald Reagan in the 1970s and which continues to fight the grassroots Tea Party movement today has adopted the tactics of the left in using the media and the politics of personal destruction to attack an opponent."

That shiat kills me.

Kerry and McCain were both attacked mercilessly by the right using these tactics. Obama has been under constant attack since he first announced his candidacy.

What the fark makes her think these are "tactics of the left"?

This woman is a blight on America.


It's a classic Alinsky tactic, ironically enough. Turn a negative of yours into a positive.
 
2012-02-01 12:39:57 PM
The Republican establishment which fought Ronald Reagan in the 1970s and which continues to fight the grassroots Tea Party movement today

Are they fighting from beyond the grave?
 
2012-02-01 12:40:07 PM
Annoy a Liberal, Vote Newt?

Sarah, you wonderfully useful idiot.

I am liberal, and I actually voted for Newt yesterday in the Florida Primary for exactly the reason you state.

To prolong this ugly, derpy, shiat-slinging fest on the Right, and help the Repubs lose the general election.
 
2012-02-01 12:40:27 PM

hubiestubert: Sweetie, he's not picking you for the VP slot...


Do you think that she thinks that they actually might consider that? Come VP season, are we going to see Palin following the nominee around in a bus, and every time he looks back at her she starts whistling and pretends to be looking the other way?
 
2012-02-01 12:40:34 PM

DarnoKonrad: PlatinumDragon: What's with the Alinsky obsession?

Who Is Saul Alinsky?


Thanks for the link. I always assumed he was some kind of communist firebrand the way republicans invoke him. After reading that, he seems fairly unremarkable. I suppose it's just another boogyman for the GOP to trot out to get the base fired up. I would wager they have no farkin clue who Saul Alinsky is, nor do they care.
 
2012-02-01 12:42:48 PM

GhostFish: "The Republican establishment which fought Ronald Reagan in the 1970s and which continues to fight the grassroots Tea Party movement today has adopted the tactics of the left in using the media and the politics of personal destruction to attack an opponent."

That shiat kills me.

Kerry and McCain were both attacked mercilessly by the right using these tactics. Obama has been under constant attack since he first announced his candidacy.

What the fark makes her think these are "tactics of the left"?

This woman is a blight on America.


War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
 
2012-02-01 12:43:17 PM

Fart_Machine: Jake Havechek: I never even heard of this Alinsky cat until the freepers and Empress Palin brought him up.

He's the new Ward Churchill.


Who's Ward Churchhill?
 
2012-02-01 12:43:25 PM
I'll use it as a unit of measurement.

Could I have an Alinsky of sugar in my coffee?

How many Alinskys is it to the 7-11 from here?
 
2012-02-01 12:43:40 PM

rufus-t-firefly: What a monster.


He was also pretty effective and a populist who helped the average and the poor against the rich. And he never backed away from a fight.

So that probably helps why the GOP loathes him.
 
2012-02-01 12:44:00 PM
i52.photobucket.com
Your new overlord! Get with it Palin! Romulin FTW!!! Newt for Vice Salamander!!!!
 
2012-02-01 12:44:45 PM
Yawn. All this hot air just means her Prada account is getting low. C'mon sheeple give Sarah some more contributions to fight the good fight, momma needs a new handbag from the spring collection.
 
2012-02-01 12:45:46 PM

Rapmaster2000: The former governor of Alaska has for days been doing everything in her power to aid the campaign of Romney's chief challenger,

I wouldn't say that. She gave Newt some halfass endorsement about "extending the race" but she didn't endorse him specifically because she knew he would lose and further tarnish the teaparty kingmaker brand she was trying to build.

Regardless, she's been exposed as irrelevant.


She doesn't want to get Newt's stank of failure on her, but she's obviously elbowing to the front of the line on as the predominate "I told ya so" voice of the right if/when Romney goes down in flames in the general election. A voice she'll surely cash in on.
 
2012-02-01 12:46:10 PM
What is she doing now, trying to get herself branded a political villain, or a bad girl? Because the whole maverick thing has worn off is she trying to go with the villain route to get more airtime?
 
2012-02-01 12:46:33 PM
"The dramatic movement of 1995 is an outgrowth of a much earlier crusade that goes back half a century. Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie, and in turn Ronnie turned that torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive."

The is Leroy Gingrich the "outsider," right? The guy who's not part of the establishment? The rogue operator trying to shake things up?
 
2012-02-01 12:46:50 PM

Alphax: Bill Maher had an excellent clip on his show recently.. "Who the Fark is Saul Alinsky?" Been wondering that myself for a long time.


I don't usually watch BIll Maher, but I went looking for that clip.

"And the girl in the car with Newt replied 'let go of my hair. you're hurting me'."
"I even asked Suri, the voice in my phone. She said "farked if I know"."
"You just recreate him inside a bubble and then run against the new fictional candidate. THat's how George W Bush won in 2004 against John Kerry, a French war criminal'.

Funny stuff.

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-01 12:48:13 PM
She's having a Spudnuts moment.
 
2012-02-01 12:48:43 PM

GAT_00: rufus-t-firefly: What a monster.

He was also pretty effective and a populist who helped the average and the poor against the rich. And he never backed away from a fight.

So that probably helps why the GOP loathes him.


Did we cover the part where Gingrich's campaign approaches are straight from Alinsky's 13(?) rules? Or the part where Tea Party top brass was being given Alinsky's approach as an effective way to wage grassroots movements by FreedomWorks?
 
2012-02-01 12:50:58 PM
Enough of this noise. Make with the Bristol Palin lesbian sex tape.
 
2012-02-01 12:51:04 PM
Hilarious! This is right out of old Joe's playbook. "Our failure is caused by turncoats in our midst who are allied with an evil outsider!"

This is the pretext for the purge, the gulag, or whatever other nastiness needs to happen.
 
2012-02-01 12:51:55 PM

Jake Havechek: I'll use it as a unit of measurement.

How many Alinskys is it to the 7-11 from here?


It's about a 3.8 microSoros walk from here I'd say.

/A little astronomy humor
 
2012-02-01 12:54:45 PM

Jake Havechek: Who the heck ever told her she was smart or articulate?


Lots of dudes, and possibly a few chicks, who were trying to get in her pants. So the next time you're trying to get laid, beware, for you know not what you do.
 
2012-02-01 12:55:58 PM
Even as she attacks the likely GOP nominee, Palin makes herself the essential Republican.

images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-02-01 12:56:47 PM

DeltaPunch: hubiestubert: Sweetie, he's not picking you for the VP slot...

Do you think that she thinks that they actually might consider that? Come VP season, are we going to see Palin following the nominee around in a bus, and every time he looks back at her she starts whistling and pretends to be looking the other way?


Jesu Christo no way in Hells she runs for any office, for real, ever again. She's going to play the "Liberal Media" card, and keep in the spotlight as long as she can, to keep up the book sales and the speaking engagements queued up, but actually running for a real office? She's not going to expose herself to that again.

For one thing, she might win and where's the endorsement deal in that? She learned her lesson the last time. Fool me once--shame on you. Fool me--you can't get fooled again.
 
2012-02-01 12:57:44 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: GAT_00: rufus-t-firefly: What a monster.

He was also pretty effective and a populist who helped the average and the poor against the rich. And he never backed away from a fight.

So that probably helps why the GOP loathes him.

Did we cover the part where Gingrich's campaign approaches are straight from Alinsky's 13(?) rules? Or the part where Tea Party top brass was being given Alinsky's approach as an effective way to wage grassroots movements by FreedomWorks?


Sorry... 11 rules, see if any sound familiar:

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people.
The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. "You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It's hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."

Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage."

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O'Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city's reputation.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, "Okay, what would you do?"

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don't try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.
 
2012-02-01 12:59:48 PM
Politics of personal destruction?

You mean like the fanatic "Hunting of the President" vendetta against Bill Clinton since the Civil Rights days of the Sixties?

Or the demonization of Obama for the last four years? The fifty year dredging up of Chappaquiddick? Ann Coulter's books? THAT kind of politics of personal destruction. DEMON! TRAITOR! HISTORY'S GREATEST MONSTER! That kind of politics personal destruction?

I don't know about Palin being above a little slander. She has a sharp tongue and the sense of entitlement and the purblind ignorance which make it possible for the woman to say any damn thing that comes into her tiny empty head.

Conservatives and Stalinists should talk about politics of destruction, Big Lies, doublespeak and doublethink, langue de bois, trahison des clercs, etc. He who wrestles with dragons, becomes a dragon. Passed masters of the black arts of negative campaigning.

Just look at what Santorum, Gingrich, Romney, Paul, Limbaugh, Dole, and their respective partisans and campaign tricksters, etc., have been saying about each other in the heat of the campaign over the last few months. And they know what they're talking about, too. Liberals just need to take good notes and spell their names right.

It's a shame Richard M. Nixon and Ronald Reagan aren't alive to join in, speaking of sharp tongues, entitlement and purblind ideological ignorance.

You could do less character assassination with the private files of J. Edgar Hoover in hand.
 
2012-02-01 01:03:05 PM

timujin: And if there's someone who knows first hand about insufficient vetting...


I honestly don't believe she fully understands the concept of 'vetting'. Like maybe she has some loose grasp, but never quite hits the mark.
 
2012-02-01 01:03:08 PM

Mentat: I'm glad she finally came out and said that the GOP's governing philosophy is to annoy liberals.


Troll. To troll liberals. Annoy is so weak.
 
2012-02-01 01:04:56 PM
didn't he work with the elder Romney's campaign
 
2012-02-01 01:07:08 PM

rufus-t-firefly: GAT_00: PlatinumDragon: What's with the Alinsky obsession?

I have no idea. I would bet serious money she wouldn't be able to cite any of his positions correctly.

Referring to "Emmanuel Goldstein" would have given them away. Alinsky still gives them a Jewish name, but they have to make him into a Goldstein.

In Alinsky's opinion, new voices and new values were being heard in the U.S., and "people began citing John Donne's 'No man is an island,'" he said. He observed that the hardship affecting all classes of the population was causing them to start "banding together to improve their lives," and discovering how much in common they really had with their fellow man. He stated during an interview a few of the causes for his active organizing in black communities:

"Negroes were being lynched regularly in the South as the first stirrings of black opposition began to be felt, and many of the white civil rights organizers and labor agitators who had started to work with them were tarred and feathered, castrated-or killed. Most Southern politicians were members of the Ku Klux Klan and had no compunction about boasting of it."

What a monster.


They also vilify him to distract attention from the fact they have completely adopted and twisted to their ends his Rules for Radicals. It's one of Gingrich's primary sources which is why he bashes Alinsky so repetitively.
 
2012-02-01 01:07:13 PM
www.thejerkyboys.com


R.I.P. Saul Alinsky
 
2012-02-01 01:08:13 PM
Romney may well get my vote over Obama. Sarah could change all that. If Romney doesn't have the balls to put her in her place, he doesn't have the balls to be president.

I'd rather go with the Mr. No-Balls I know than the Mr. No-Balls i don't.
 
2012-02-01 01:08:55 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: GAT_00: rufus-t-firefly: What a monster.

He was also pretty effective and a populist who helped the average and the poor against the rich. And he never backed away from a fight.

So that probably helps why the GOP loathes him.

Did we cover the part where Gingrich's campaign approaches are straight from Alinsky's 13(?) rules? Or the part where Tea Party top brass was being given Alinsky's approach as an effective way to wage grassroots movements by FreedomWorks?


Ahh, you beat me to it.
 
2012-02-01 01:11:40 PM
My favorite part about all of the Alinsky hate is that he points out specifically that making your opponents attack and vilify you is a primary tactic and an indicator of success.

I suppose the Republicans would find this out if they ever bothered to learn the 1st thing about him other than "Alinsky?.. sounds commie"
 
2012-02-01 01:11:50 PM

Jake Havechek: Who the heck ever told her she was smart or articulate?

I see dumb people. They don't know they are dumb.


Incompetence is not self-aware. It is too ignorant to know it does not know much, too half-assed to know that it is not doing a great job. It is like those people who think they can sing but can't: in their little world they never meet anybody competent, they never even meet a competent critic, they do not hear their own voices because they are living inside their heads, where their voices are amplified by a lot of bone and sound so much better than they do to people who don't have the advantage of a thick layer of bone around their inner ears and brains.

To know much is often the cause of doubting more.
Michel de Montaigne, Essais (1588).

To have doubted one's own first principles is the mark of a civilized man.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., "Ideals and Doubts", 10 Illinois Law Rev 3 (1915).

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

William Butler Yeats, Michael Robartes and the Dancer (1921)
 
2012-02-01 01:16:51 PM

Craptastic: tcan: Palin sees that she is rapidly slipping into irrelevance and this is a deparate cry for attention. Look for more of the same from hera and others trying to claim the Tea Party leadership.

Zeus cheats on her pretty much all the damned time.


Typing mistake or Freudian slip? Hmmmm......
 
2012-02-01 01:17:51 PM
It's old hat folks. They're painting a picture where everyone gets a long, the boss is a hard working individual who really cares about you. The friendly banker who is really a great person, etc. But there's an evil trying to invade this peaceful town. Agitators, trying disrupt this harmony we live in.

Take them at their word: They are against Saul Alinski and everything he stood for.

Now go find what Alinski stood for and ask which side you're on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
 
2012-02-01 01:23:38 PM
Sarah Palin is somebody Romney is going to need. It's really hard to fill that critical sinicure of Amberican Ambassador to:

a) Croatia
b) Uganda
c) El Salvador
d) Montenegro.

Remind me again, what has Sarah Palin done for Romney? Would it justify making her American Consul in the second biggest city in Moldavia*? Surely, even if there are no men or women in the Republican Party today who are worthy of the Presidency, there is somebody just a little stupider and less popular than Romney? There has to be, doesn't there? Please tell me that the GOP has a Vice-President calibre politician (VP calibre: i.e., small bore).

*Tiraspol. Google knows all, Google sees all.
 
2012-02-01 01:25:08 PM

SisterMaryElephant: Romney may well get my vote over Obama. Sarah could change all that. If Romney doesn't have the balls to put her in her place, he doesn't have the balls to be president.

I'd rather go with the Mr. No-Balls I know than the Mr. No-Balls i don't.


You sound like an intelligent and informed voter.
 
2012-02-01 01:26:37 PM

Uzzah: Even as she attacks the likely GOP nominee, Palin makes herself the essential Republican.

[images.cheezburger.com image 500x306]


Only for a little more time. If Romney wins the nomination and/or the presidency Palin will be cut off by the networks and by the GOP. Her claim to fame is as a Tea Party interpreter and if they become irrelevant so does she. Her 15 minutes are up and she can't stand it.
 
2012-02-01 01:28:13 PM
Wow, no one decided to bring this one up?

oi53.tinypic.com

DO IT!

DO IT...FOR THE LULZ!
 
2012-02-01 01:30:50 PM
Thanks again, McCain, for elevating someone with the gravitas of Joe the Plumber to the national stage.
 
2012-02-01 01:31:16 PM

Jake Havechek: What we saw with this ridiculous opposition dump on Newt was nothing short of Stalin-esque rewriting of history. It was Alinsky tactics at their worst.

She's lost her marbles.


You know who else was Stalinesque?

www.thetick.ws

/It's an homage!
 
2012-02-01 01:52:24 PM

Rev. Creflo Baller: Hilarious! This is right out of old Joe's playbook. "Our failure is caused by turncoats in our midst who are allied with an evil outsider!"

This is the pretext for the purge, the gulag, or whatever other nastiness needs to happen.



I'm thinking along similar lines.

I wish I new more about Soviet history, to make sure I've got this analogy down correctly, but I think today's American conservative Republicans are very like them in some important ways.

There's the whole lust-for-power thing that's almost a given for would-be rulers, but what's most remarkable is that almost-metaphysical thing they share -- blessings will flow if and only if we all have pure hearts and we all think and believe all the correct things, and all of those correct things are Platonic Truths that should be accepted at face value without question. It'll be just another couple five-year-plans uh, election cycles with Republican victories and we'll have our workers' entrepreneurs' paradise.

And Sarah's one who actually believes all that with all her heart.
 
2012-02-01 01:56:56 PM

GAT_00: Palin savages Romney as "a candidate who admitted to not even supporting or voting for Reagan.

This is hilarious. Apparently the most important thing to being a Republican is not any particular value, but to worship the Deity of Reagan.


But remember, libtards are the one who blindly follow their messiah, Fartbongo.
 
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