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2012-02-01 08:25:07 AM
Yeah, that was pretty damn funny.
And Notch is an idiot. Minecraft has gotten much better (with the exception of this) since he gave up development.
 
2012-02-01 10:28:01 AM
Afrikaaners?
 
2012-02-01 10:30:43 AM
cretinbob: And Notch is an idiot. Minecraft has gotten much better (with the exception of this) since he gave up development.

At what point did he give it up? Because I kinda gave up on it once it started to turn into a half-assed RPG.
 
2012-02-01 10:32:47 AM
FTA: As Minecraft Forums user EgXPlayer commented, "Thats racist."

Based on my experiences in FARK: not sure if serious, or just trolling.
 
2012-02-01 10:33:09 AM
IrateShadow: cretinbob: And Notch is an idiot. Minecraft has gotten much better (with the exception of this) since he gave up development.

At what point did he give it up? Because I kinda gave up on it once it started to turn into a half-assed RPG.


I remember the exact point Notch broke into my house and held a gun to my head and said "Stop building all the things you can imagine and play it as an RPG or you will die!"

/They have free build servers, silly troll.
 
2012-02-01 10:33:26 AM
cretinbob: Yeah, that was pretty damn funny.
And Notch is an idiot. Minecraft has gotten much better (with the exception of this) since he gave up development.


This. No good clients for iOS, Android, 360, PS3, or Wii. $20+ for an alpha. The Pocket Edition is $8 on the App Store, but it's just the alpha with no crafting. SurvivalCraft for WP7 is better.
 
2012-02-01 10:35:53 AM
s1ugg0: I remember the exact point Notch broke into my house and held a gun to my head and said "Stop building all the things you can imagine and play it as an RPG or you will die!"

/They have free build servers, silly troll.


No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.
 
2012-02-01 10:36:04 AM
Time Traveling Bunnies: "Oh, attractive and successful African-AmericanS....."

Haha that is a great filterpwn.
Step 1) Set up South Park joke with headline
Step 2) Quote South Park in comments
Step 3) Chuckle
 
2012-02-01 10:37:20 AM
I got the 4chan language pack

It said I was a newfag.
 
2012-02-01 10:37:57 AM
IrateShadow: s1ugg0: I remember the exact point Notch broke into my house and held a gun to my head and said "Stop building all the things you can imagine and play it as an RPG or you will die!"

/They have free build servers, silly troll.

No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.


They're doing the single most important thing right now: Mod API. Soon you have have as much building as you could ever want.
 
2012-02-01 10:39:27 AM
IrateShadow: s1ugg0: I remember the exact point Notch broke into my house and held a gun to my head and said "Stop building all the things you can imagine and play it as an RPG or you will die!"

/They have free build servers, silly troll.

No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.


I've been in since the Alpha. They've added new craft formulas and pistons. The list goes on and on. More over if it bothers you that much why don't you build your own server and mod it. No one is stopping you.
 
2012-02-01 11:02:33 AM
As Minecraft Forums user EgXPlayer commented, "Thats racist."

That made me lol.
 
2012-02-01 11:03:30 AM
s1ugg0: IrateShadow: s1ugg0: I remember the exact point Notch broke into my house and held a gun to my head and said "Stop building all the things you can imagine and play it as an RPG or you will die!"

/They have free build servers, silly troll.

No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.

I've been in since the Alpha. They've added new craft formulas and pistons. The list goes on and on. More over if it bothers you that much why don't you build your own server and mod it. No one is stopping you.


I just...build stuff. Dunno about all that potion and enchanting biz.
 
2012-02-01 11:04:27 AM
The only thing that I've liked in the official release is the animal breeding and the fact that sheep can regrow wool. I have no desire to play it as an RPG. For me its all mods. I've gone from building crazy monuments and sculptures to bizzare rube goldberg like harvesting, crafting and generally do something odd machines.
 
2012-02-01 11:05:28 AM
IrateShadow: No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.

Hasn't the number of 'monsters' increased by something like.. two, while the number of blocks and recipes has increased by something greater than two?

Granted, the updated combat stuff even I find a little odd, but it's not like you can't just turn on Creative Mode and have a ball.
 
2012-02-01 11:06:24 AM
Relatively Obscure: IrateShadow: No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.

Hasn't the number of 'monsters' increased by something like.. two, while the number of blocks and recipes has increased by something greater than two?

Granted, the updated combat stuff even I find a little odd, but it's not like you can't just turn on Creative Mode and have a ball.


Oh, wait, no I guess there have been more than two monsters. Forgot about the Nether dudes. Then again, they added several blocks there, too.
 
2012-02-01 11:08:52 AM
I am... not surprised in the slightest that this happened. Minecraft has attracted a very... vocal following shall we say? Most of whom are somewhat anonymous.

We all know the formula of anonymity + audience = 'hilarity'.

But no, that isn't funny in the slightest. I'd also postulate it was done by someone who has an objection to Minecraft because (and it's a word I know Fark filters so I CBA to type it) that's not good PR.

Hopefully Mojang have now learned that crowd sourcing is fine, but if you really need something doing and done correctly you have to break out the wallet at some point.
 
2012-02-01 11:14:06 AM
sarah_t_s: I am... not surprised in the slightest that this happened. Minecraft has attracted a very... vocal following shall we say? Most of whom are somewhat anonymous.

We all know the formula of anonymity + audience = 'hilarity'.

But no, that isn't funny in the slightest. I'd also postulate it was done by someone who has an objection to Minecraft because (and it's a word I know Fark filters so I CBA to type it) that's not good PR.

Hopefully Mojang have now learned that crowd sourcing is fine, but if you really need something doing and done correctly you have to break out the wallet at some point.


That's what I don't understand about all this. There is virtually no text in the game. How much could it have cost to simply hire a professional translator for the maybe 100 words in the menus?
 
2012-02-01 11:25:37 AM
s1ugg0:
That's what I don't understand about all this. There is virtually no text in the game. How much could it have cost to simply hire a professional translator for the maybe 100 words in the menus?


A translator might only work in 2 or 3 languages, so you're going to need more than one. OTOH it's an Indie game and I think people would accept Google Translate's output appearing on their screen without too much complaint.

It certainly wouldn't have spat out THAT word for "Single Player" in Afrikaans. Although aren't most speakers of that language white to begin with?

Actually, off topic, how does that one work in the states as someone from South Africa is likely to be white and still be an "African-American" once a naturalised citizen?
 
2012-02-01 11:35:31 AM
sarah_t_s: s1ugg0:
That's what I don't understand about all this. There is virtually no text in the game. How much could it have cost to simply hire a professional translator for the maybe 100 words in the menus?

A translator might only work in 2 or 3 languages, so you're going to need more than one. OTOH it's an Indie game and I think people would accept Google Translate's output appearing on their screen without too much complaint.

It certainly wouldn't have spat out THAT word for "Single Player" in Afrikaans. Although aren't most speakers of that language white to begin with?

Actually, off topic, how does that one work in the states as someone from South Africa is likely to be white and still be an "African-American" once a naturalised citizen?


The same way it always does : To piss off teachers.

/Picked Charlize Theron in middle school as the most beautiful african-american woman for my report
//Nearly got suspended
 
2012-02-01 11:45:14 AM
Really? My South Park reference got edited/removed? When there is a South Park reference in the title?

...

Le Sigh
 
2012-02-01 12:07:07 PM
I always loved the Minecraft trolling videos on Youtube. Especially the one set to the trolling music where the guy flooded almost every room with lava, including the room with the dogs, and broke open every single chest. That's really all the fun I could find in that game.
 
2012-02-01 12:25:43 PM
Githerax: s1ugg0: IrateShadow: s1ugg0: I remember the exact point Notch broke into my house and held a gun to my head and said "Stop building all the things you can imagine and play it as an RPG or you will die!"

/They have free build servers, silly troll.

No troll here. Sure, I could ignore the new stuff and continue on as I had, but it sucks that they're putting their effort into dragons rather than further improving on the building aspect of the game.

I've been in since the Alpha. They've added new craft formulas and pistons. The list goes on and on. More over if it bothers you that much why don't you build your own server and mod it. No one is stopping you.

I just...build stuff. Dunno about all that potion and enchanting biz.


The "Creative" mode is WAY more powerful now and if you just want to build... you can do that.

Hell they even have a "Flat" landscape with no mobs or NPC's just for that purpose.
 
2012-02-01 12:35:37 PM
Quigs:
/Picked Charlize Theron in middle school as the most beautiful african-american woman for my report
//Nearly got suspended


Let me guess teacher didn't look up who it was or where they came from just saw a white woman being called 'african-american' and went apeshiat?
 
2012-02-01 12:37:44 PM
LasersHurt: They're doing the single most important thing right now: Mod API. Soon you have have as much building as you could ever want.

I thought the mod API was "sign this NDA and we'll give you all the source code". Notch had talked about making an API last year, but realized there was no way to provide an API flexible enough to allow modders to do what they're already doing by decompiling the game. Perhaps things have changed since then though, I stopped paying close attention to Minecraft development when they started focusing on stupid shiat like adding cows with mushrooms growing on them.
 
2012-02-01 12:42:50 PM
Assholes? On my internet? Get out!
 
2012-02-01 12:43:08 PM
sarah_t_s: Quigs:
/Picked Charlize Theron in middle school as the most beautiful african-american woman for my report
//Nearly got suspended

Let me guess teacher didn't look up who it was or where they came from just saw a white woman being called 'african-american' and went apeshiat?


Pretty much. Screw black history month. Black history is American history. Pretending to honor a culture when it's just about skin color is a reason why I dislike the "Politically Correct".
 
2012-02-01 12:44:19 PM
Tranquil Hegemony: LasersHurt: They're doing the single most important thing right now: Mod API. Soon you have have as much building as you could ever want.

I thought the mod API was "sign this NDA and we'll give you all the source code". Notch had talked about making an API last year, but realized there was no way to provide an API flexible enough to allow modders to do what they're already doing by decompiling the game. Perhaps things have changed since then though, I stopped paying close attention to Minecraft development when they started focusing on stupid shiat like adding cows with mushrooms growing on them.


This has changed. Jeb is in charge now and is working on a system. It's going to be less of an API proper, more of a curated and update-driven SMP friendly thing. There were some interviews about it.

Also, did you know they added creative mode?
 
2012-02-01 12:53:19 PM
LasersHurt: This has changed. Jeb is in charge now and is working on a system. It's going to be less of an API proper, more of a curated and update-driven SMP friendly thing. There were some interviews about it.

Ah okay, that sounds good. Most of the mods I want to try don't work in SMP, so that's good to hear.

Also, did you know they added creative mode?

Yeah, but I'm not really interested in it. I like survival mode, the challenge of having to gather all your materials, watching out for creepers, etc. I just wish they'd added all this weak RPG-ish stuff as a separate "adventure mode" like they originally talked about. I don't really like anything they've added since pistons.
 
2012-02-01 01:42:36 PM
Counter_Intelligent: FTA: As Minecraft Forums user EgXPlayer commented, "Thats racist."

Based on my experiences in FARK: not sure if serious, or just trolling.


Wonder if his comment was in .gif form.
 
2012-02-01 03:49:08 PM
IrateShadow: cretinbob: And Notch is an idiot. Minecraft has gotten much better (with the exception of this) since he gave up development.

At what point did he give it up? Because I kinda gave up on it once it started to turn into a half-assed RPG.


This. My wife has actually blocked her game from updating once she realized what they were doing to the game. She didn't want an RPG, she wanted a game where she could build things. Skyrim is an RPG. Minecraft is a game where you build and explore. Each game does an excellent job, and they should stay in their respective realms.
 
2012-02-01 03:59:22 PM
Adding a single "boss" mob doesn't make Minecraft an RPG any more than having flying mounts in WOW makes it a flight simulator.
 
2012-02-01 04:00:31 PM
img59.imageshack.us

/oblig
 
2012-02-01 04:14:42 PM
LazarusLong42: Adding a single "boss" mob doesn't make Minecraft an RPG any more than having flying mounts in WOW makes it a flight simulator.

THIS

BTW when going out on your grand adventure. NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT A COMPASS! Also having a map is also a good thing.

BTW an RPG requires to have some sort of plot line, several classes to play and level. You know something like Final Fantasy or others like it.
 
2012-02-01 04:43:45 PM
Freschel: LazarusLong42: Adding a single "boss" mob doesn't make Minecraft an RPG any more than having flying mounts in WOW makes it a flight simulator.

THIS

BTW when going out on your grand adventure. NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT A COMPASS! Also having a map is also a good thing.

BTW an RPG requires to have some sort of plot line, several classes to play and level. You know something like Final Fantasy or others like it.


Action RPGs; Zelda, Deus Ex, and co. care to disagree. I'd almost consider a single character RPG to be truer to the name because you're actually playing a specific role.
 
2012-02-01 04:45:35 PM
Freschel:
BTW an RPG requires to have some sort of plot line, several classes to play and level. You know something like Final Fantasy or others like it.


Whilst I agree that that is the generally accepted tradition, it is not required. It does mean Role Playing Game after all. Something like Second Life has no levels, classes or indeed plot yet it is most definitely an RPG.
 
2012-02-01 04:47:34 PM
Andric: [img59.imageshack.us image 500x400]

/oblig


Didn't I post the same thing?
 
2012-02-01 04:47:56 PM
IrateShadow: t what point did he give it up? Because I kinda gave up on it once it started to turn into a half-assed RPG.

December 2, 2011 (new window)

I don't bother with the potions and shiat.
The kids who move mob spawners so they can grind XP without actually having to do anything on the other hand, suck.
 
2012-02-01 05:05:10 PM
Daobaz: Really? My South Park reference got edited/removed? When there is a South Park reference in the title?

I wasn't making a "South Park" reference when I submitted this, I was just being openly racist against "Minecraft" players because they annoy me. We should round them all up and put them on some remote island made of whatever type of block can't be dug through I don't know what that is 'cause I don't play the game maybe it has power pellets or something so we'd take them away too in any case those people are annoying.

So, yes, all people are equal, except "Minecraft" players who should be discriminated against. That's the best thing about "Minecraft", it made racism okay again.

/ I like that I recently got away with a headline that referenced the single most offensive racist joke I know. Link (pops) That joke belongs in some sort of museum of obsolete racist humor. (It'd be like the Museum of Tolerance except run by Polish people, so it'd be located on the Sun and have screen doors.)
 
2012-02-01 05:08:06 PM
tekneex: Andric: [img59.imageshack.us image 500x400]

/oblig

Didn't I post the same thing?


*scrolls up thread* er, did you?
 
2012-02-01 05:43:33 PM
Quigs: sarah_t_s: Quigs:
/Picked Charlize Theron in middle school as the most beautiful african-american woman for my report
//Nearly got suspended

Let me guess teacher didn't look up who it was or where they came from just saw a white woman being called 'african-american' and went apeshiat?

Pretty much. Screw black history month. Black history is American history. Pretending to honor a culture when it's just about skin color is a reason why I dislike the "Politically Correct".


American history tends to be white male history which is the reason for focusing on women and minorities.
 
2012-02-01 05:55:18 PM
Baryogenesis: Quigs: sarah_t_s: Quigs:
/Picked Charlize Theron in middle school as the most beautiful african-american woman for my report
//Nearly got suspended

Let me guess teacher didn't look up who it was or where they came from just saw a white woman being called 'african-american' and went apeshiat?

Pretty much. Screw black history month. Black history is American history. Pretending to honor a culture when it's just about skin color is a reason why I dislike the "Politically Correct".

American history tends to be white male history which is the reason for focusing on women and minorities.


But isn't shoehorning all of their history into a single month (the shortest month, at that) disingenuous and almost insulting in the manner it's presented, tacked on as an afterthought? Why not just include that history in the time periods where it was relevant? I mean really, African-Americans in history is just as much American history as it is "Black history."

I understand the sentiment, but presenting it that way is nearly implied exclusion from "regular" history.
 
2012-02-01 06:49:12 PM
ProfessorOhki: But isn't shoehorning all of their history into a single month (the shortest month, at that) disingenuous and almost insulting in the manner it's presented, tacked on as an afterthought? Why not just include that history in the time periods where it was relevant? I mean really, African-Americans in history is just as much American history as it is "Black history."

I understand the sentiment, but presenting it that way is nearly implied exclusion from "regular" history.


Don't worry about it. The treatments are separate, but equal.
 
2012-02-02 07:50:13 AM
I'm just beating myself over the head as to why MC won't even recognize OptiFine that I've DL'ed along with Sonic Ether's so-called awesome shaders.

I don't EVEN play MC but my son does so I'm doing this for him.

/I KNOW how to copy the files into the .jar, etc.
//It STILL isn't working.
 
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