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ThatGuyGreg		2012-02-01 09:50:09 AM

I can see why the bosses don't want this showing up at crime scenes (aka where the press is), but that's pretty funny.

Godscrack		2012-02-01 11:16:04 AM

Headso		2012-02-01 11:31:04 AM

Someone should tell the post these cops are unionized government employees, they'd probably get a different slant on the story.

thelordofcheese		2012-02-01 11:31:10 AM

So... they're against cops being honest about their actions?

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 11:32:30 AM

ThatGuyGreg: [www.nypost.com image 300x300]

I can see why the bosses don't want this showing up at crime scenes (aka where the press is), but that's pretty funny.

my uncle had a shirt with that saying decades ago. It's been a crowed pleaser for quite some time :)

rubi_con_man		2012-02-01 11:33:07 AM

Cops are tribal enough. Wearing shirts that allow them to continue to dominate the people around them is just stupid, and banning it is good sense.

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 11:33:26 AM

Headso: Someone should tell the post these cops are unionized government employees, they'd probably get a different slant on the story.

yeah, the NY Post isn't aware of that. Even though they quite the head of the PO Union in the story.

BurnShrike		2012-02-01 11:35:18 AM

I can understand the rule while on duty, or at a crime scene, but there is no job that can tell me what I can or can't wear when I'm on my own time.

/not a cop

Farkin' Uke		2012-02-01 11:37:53 AM

I'm not offended because they are 'offensive', I'm offended that they aren't very clever or funny. Could have at least had a hilarious reason to have the rule change...

Kanemano		2012-02-01 11:39:50 AM

Bad taste should be illegal
www.thedenverchannel.com

Not really, but come on, like my old litigation teacher said, it may not be a big case to you but to your client it is, so to the police, the interaction may not be a big deal to you but to the other person it's huge.

NightOwl2255		2012-02-01 11:41:10 AM

Cops showing up at crime scenes wearing street clothes? WTF?

Are they off duty and just being lookie loo's? Or can they wear t-shirts while on duty?

NightOwl2255		2012-02-01 11:42:55 AM

BurnShrike: I can understand the rule while on duty, or at a crime scene, but there is no job that can tell me what I can or can't wear when I'm on my own time.

/not a cop

No, they can't tell you what to wear. But they can sure as hell fire you for it.

vexle		2012-02-01 11:43:05 AM

rubi_con_man: Cops are tribal enough. Wearing shirts that allow them to continue to dominate the people around them is just stupid, and banning it is good sense.

Not bad; 6/10. A good old cop hate troll without going whaargarbl. It's grounded enough to be believable, but just farking batshiat enough to be the kind of moronic cop hate we love here on fark.

BurnShrike		2012-02-01 11:46:55 AM

NightOwl2255: BurnShrike: I can understand the rule while on duty, or at a crime scene, but there is no job that can tell me what I can or can't wear when I'm on my own time.

/not a cop

No, they can't tell you what to wear. But they can sure as hell fire you for it.

And face the wrongful termination lawsuit? Fine with me.

No job has any business with what I do/say/wear while I'm not on the clock. Fark them.

(I know the "right to work" states can fire you for whatever they want, which is why I don't live in any of those places)

Magorn		2012-02-01 11:49:55 AM

BurnShrike: I can understand the rule while on duty, or at a crime scene, but there is no job that can tell me what I can or can't wear when I'm on my own time.

/not a cop

Cops got all kinds of rules about what they can and can't do "off duty"

For instnace if they fail to intervene when they see a crime going on, or fail to stop and render assistance at an accident scene to which first responders haven't arrived they can be fired instantly

cleveralthere		2012-02-01 11:55:55 AM

my personal favorite bad taste cop shirt

www.chicagocopshop.com

I had this one when i was a kid

Headso		2012-02-01 11:57:20 AM

skullkrusher: Headso: Someone should tell the post these cops are unionized government employees, they'd probably get a different slant on the story.

yeah, the NY Post isn't aware of that. Even though they quite the head of the PO Union in the story.

I guess the beating up homeless people and the fines that work like regressive taxation trump the whole union thing.

NightOwl2255		2012-02-01 11:58:11 AM

BurnShrike: (I know the "right to work" states can fire you for whatever they want, which is why I don't live in any of those places)

You said "there is no job that can tell me what I can or can't wear when I'm on my own time". That's factual incorrect. Also, even in non-right to work states you can certainly be fired for conduct off the clock that reflects poorly on the company. Now there may be some union jobs where that may not be completely true, but for the most part it is.

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 11:58:49 AM

BurnShrike: No job has any business with what I do/say/wear while I'm not on the clock. Fark them.

you're a teacher in NYC. You're farking your 17 year old student after school hours. Fireable offense?

BurnShrike: (I know the "right to work" states can fire you for whatever they want, which is why I don't live in any of those places)

you mean "at will employment" states I think

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 12:01:02 PM

Headso: skullkrusher: Headso: Someone should tell the post these cops are unionized government employees, they'd probably get a different slant on the story.

yeah, the NY Post isn't aware of that. Even though they quite the head of the PO Union in the story.

I guess the beating up homeless people and the fines that work like regressive taxation trump the whole union thing.

huh?

itsfullofstars		2012-02-01 12:07:37 PM

Keep your shirts, wear them to your BBQs or even out to the cop bars. But wearing these at a crime scene or anywhere else in public makes you look like a bunch of clowns.

If you want to be seen as "New York's Finest" you've got to act like it.

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 12:11:19 PM

itsfullofstars: Keep your shirts, wear them to your BBQs or even out to the cop bars. But wearing these at a crime scene or anywhere else in public makes you look like a bunch of clowns.

If you want to be seen as "New York's Finest" you've got to act like it.

I have to agree but this ban includes a plain blue t-shirt with your Precinct # on them. They can't even use an NYPD coffee mug or pen off duty. Typical heavy handed reaction to a problem.

HotIgneous Intruder		2012-02-01 12:14:26 PM

Feh, you cops stay klassy.

/Cretins.
//Dad was a cop; I know what I'm talking about.

NightOwl2255		2012-02-01 12:20:59 PM

skullkrusher: I have to agree but this ban includes a plain blue t-shirt with your Precinct # on them. They can't even use an NYPD coffee mug or pen off duty. Typical heavy handed reaction to a problem.

FTA: The sweeping order, issued on Jan. 19, says officers are "prohibited" from wearing "any item of apparel which contains a department logo or shield or in any way identifies wearer with the New York City Police Department unless approved by the Uniform and Equipment Review Committee."

Not a ban, if it has the NYPD logo it has to be approved. Seems reasonable to me.

Ranger Joe		2012-02-01 12:24:18 PM

Yeah, I remember working for the local abortion clinic some years ago...they got all upset when I wore my "You rape 'em, we scrape 'em" sweatshirt to the company picnic.

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 12:28:04 PM

NightOwl2255: skullkrusher: I have to agree but this ban includes a plain blue t-shirt with your Precinct # on them. They can't even use an NYPD coffee mug or pen off duty. Typical heavy handed reaction to a problem.

FTA: The sweeping order, issued on Jan. 19, says officers are "prohibited" from wearing "any item of apparel which contains a department logo or shield or in any way identifies wearer with the New York City Police Department unless approved by the Uniform and Equipment Review Committee."

Not a ban, if it has the NYPD logo it has to be approved. Seems reasonable to me.

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This article doesn't mention the approval process but banning the use of an NYPD mug without prior approval seems a bit over the top to me

namegoeshere		2012-02-01 12:33:21 PM

Yeesh. The next thing you know, they're going to want my "City Morgue, You kill 'em, we chill 'em" shirt.

NotSubby		2012-02-01 12:45:12 PM

rubi_con_man: ~~Cops~~ Blacks are tribal enough. Wearing shirts that allow them to continue to dominate the people around them is just stupid, and banning it is good sense.

See the stupid? Broad brush and all that.

NightOwl2255		2012-02-01 12:48:25 PM

skullkrusher: This article doesn't mention the approval process but banning the use of an NYPD mug without prior approval seems a bit over the top to me

Does seems a bit micromanaging doesn't it?

McGrits		2012-02-01 12:51:39 PM

The US Navy used to sell shirts on its DASO support vessel with a Trident submarine and a mushroom cloud and the phrase, "24 empty missile tubes, a mushroom cloud, and now it's Miller Time!"

I wore that shirt back in highschool. Good times, good times.

/CSB?

Kanemano		2012-02-01 12:52:48 PM

skullkrusher: This article doesn't mention the approval process but banning the use of an NYPD mug without prior approval seems a bit over the top to me

COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT- you wouldn't want your officers breaking the law now would you?

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 12:54:57 PM

Kanemano: skullkrusher: This article doesn't mention the approval process but banning the use of an NYPD mug without prior approval seems a bit over the top to me

COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT- you wouldn't want your officers breaking the law now would you?

That has potential but I don't know if the phrase "NYPD" is copyrighted nor is that the point of the ban

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 12:56:16 PM

NightOwl2255: skullkrusher: This article doesn't mention the approval process but banning the use of an NYPD mug without prior approval seems a bit over the top to me

Does seems a bit micromanaging doesn't it?

city bureaucracy + the fact that cops are unionized probably makes it impossible to be a common sense rule

NightOwl2255		2012-02-01 12:58:48 PM

skullkrusher: city bureaucracy + the fact that cops are unionized probably makes it impossible to be a common sense rule

I believe Article 4, section 12, lines 10-12 of the city-police contract forbids the use of common sense.

Wayne 985		2012-02-01 01:17:17 PM

ThatGuyGreg: [www.nypost.com image 300x300]

I can see why the bosses don't want this showing up at crime scenes (aka where the press is), but that's pretty funny.

Aw, jeez... Tasteless, but yeah... I laughed.

skullkrusher		2012-02-01 01:18:50 PM

NightOwl2255: skullkrusher: city bureaucracy + the fact that cops are unionized probably makes it impossible to be a common sense rule

I believe Article 4, section 12, lines 10-12 of the city-police contract forbids the use of common sense.

hehe

lack of warmth		2012-02-01 01:40:12 PM

Heard of a guy that got fired from Coke for having a Mountain Dew plate on the front of his car. His bosses weren't exactly trolls about it, the guy was very obnoxious about it. Parked with the plate facing the road. He wasn't told that it had to be removed so much as to park facing the other way. Both of these companies will fire a guy for drinking or even buying the competitors pop while wearing the work uniform.

Aigoo		2012-02-01 02:05:11 PM

NightOwl2255: BurnShrike: (I know the "right to work" states can fire you for whatever they want, which is why I don't live in any of those places)

You said "there is no job that can tell me what I can or can't wear when I'm on my own time". That's factual incorrect. Also, even in non-right to work states you can certainly be fired for conduct off the clock that reflects poorly on the company. Now there may be some union jobs where that may not be completely true, but for the most part it is.

He's right when he says it's factually incorrect. When I arrived at certain duty bases, one of the very first briefings we got concerned what not to wear off duty. Certain local gangs in some areas favored certain colors and team jackets and things like that and on some bases, you weren't even allowed to (or couldn't get caught at least) own jerseys or jackets for those teams. So yeah, there are jobs that will tell you what you can and cannot wear. On the flip side, though, those jobs usually make it abundantly clear what those restrictions are before you take the job.

Still, there's this thing called common sense. No cop should wear a shirt like that while on duty and dealing with the public. Come the fark on.

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