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RexTalionis
2012-01-31 01:52:18 PM
Meh. It's Bayonne.
ManateeGag
2012-01-31 01:55:27 PM
Your point?
Lando Lincoln
2012-01-31 01:56:06 PM
Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
brigid_fitch
2012-01-31 01:59:05 PM
I'm betting that's not the reason. If you're going to do a trial run on pay stations, why not use the one Asbury Park uses, where you don't have to go back to your car. AND you can go to any pay station to add time. They probably saw a decrease in fines and decided to go back to the old-fashioned meters before they lost too much revenue.
JerseyTim
2012-01-31 02:00:24 PM
Why am I not shocked that it's Bayonne? Bayonne: where it's always 1976,
brigid_fitch
2012-01-31 02:03:36 PM
Lando Lincoln
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Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
I pump my own when I'm on the bike, otherwise I *LIKE* not having to pump my own gas. Cold, snowy, raining, or too hot? Pffft...I stay nice & comfy in my car, thanks. So what if sometimes I have to wait a few seconds longer? I've got books in the car.
sweetmelissa31
2012-01-31 02:07:07 PM
"We're really glad they're gone, we did not like them," BTC executive director Mary Divock said yesterday. "It might work in other towns, but . . . it just doesn't work here. We're a community of young families and seniors."
You can't walk a few feet if you have a "young family"? And if you're a senior who is driving somewhere by yourself, you're presumably going to have to walk to that place after you've parked.
Eddie Adams from Torrance
2012-01-31 02:07:31 PM
Screw NJ.
You'll pump my gas for me AND charge me $.25 LESS per gallon?
NO THANK YOU!
The Loaf
2012-01-31 02:08:12 PM
Lando Lincoln
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Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
TonnageVT
2012-01-31 02:11:55 PM
Considering I got a ticket in Hoboken because apparently the receipt flew off my dashboard when I closed the door, I welcome this.
/Yes, I know it was my fault.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-01-31 02:15:27 PM
The Loaf
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Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
RexTalionis
2012-01-31 02:17:37 PM
Bathia_Mapes
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The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Remember, in NJ, we don't give a shiat.
Sybarite
2012-01-31 02:19:08 PM
Why not just give each parking space a letter and number designation that you enter when you pay? Link the system up to portable units carried by parking enforcement and they can easily check any space to see if it has time on it. No receipt necessary.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-01-31 02:21:36 PM
RexTalionis
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Remember, in NJ, we don't give a shiat.
Constipation is a terrible thing.
DanZero
2012-01-31 02:23:37 PM
It's how we get tough and adapt to survive there
/did my time
RexTalionis
2012-01-31 02:24:53 PM
DanZero
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It's how we get tough and adapt to survive there
[img.photobucket.com image 591x1023]
/did my time
CatPeople
2012-01-31 02:26:06 PM
Rest of U.S.: YOU SMELL LIKE GAS. Your friends don't question it because they smell like gas too. When you visit, or we visit you, we are polite enough to not tell you. Here on Fark, there is no such social contract.
Oh, I'm sorry to embarrass you, I thought you would want to know...
Snarfangel
2012-01-31 02:45:23 PM
Bathia_Mapes
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The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
That's because gas should be pumped by trained professionals, not riffraff off the street.
Besides, gas pump handles are full of germs.
brigid_fitch
2012-01-31 02:45:46 PM
Bathia_Mapes
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The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Oregon legalized it a few years ago. NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And
The Loaf
is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-01-31 02:51:26 PM
brigid_fitch
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Bathia_Mapes: The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Oregon legalized it a few years ago. NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And The Loaf is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
At this point the only legal gas pumping options are if you're getting diesel fuel, or if you're gassing up a boat or motorcycle. You still can't legal gas up your own car.
Endive Wombat
2012-01-31 03:02:29 PM
People hate them because in the 2 minutes it takes to get out of your car, punch in your payment method at the centralized meter thing and return with your receipt, a dickbag meter maid has already ticketed you for not having a parking receipt on your dash.
Why yes, that has happened to me. No, I was not happy. No, he did not throw out the ticket and say "my bad, you are right". Took 8 weeks for the situation to resolve itself. My only saving grace is that my receipt said something like 2:36pm for the purchase time and his ticket spit out a time of 2:38pm. The person who I dealt with over the phone told me that this situation was incredibly common. And there was really not much they could do to increase the awareness of their meter maids to see what cars are coming and going.
Assholes, every last one of them...
Lando Lincoln
2012-01-31 03:28:49 PM
brigid_fitch
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Bathia_Mapes: The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Oregon legalized it a few years ago. NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And The Loaf is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
Maybe they treat out-of-staters differently, but every time I go there for a business meeting I try to pump my own gas (because I forget) and the attendants get all bent out of shape on me.
shivashakti
2012-01-31 03:49:20 PM
CatPeople
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Rest of U.S.: YOU SMELL LIKE GAS. Your friends don't question it because they smell like gas too. When you visit, or we visit you, we are polite enough to not tell you. Here on Fark, there is no such social contract.
Oh, I'm sorry to embarrass you, I thought you would want to know...
I like the smell of gas.
It smells awesome.
I miss not being able to pump my own gas...
/though I don't miss doing it in the winter
Norv Turner
2012-01-31 03:55:59 PM
Really?
I can actually move my arms and legs! I CAN DO THINGS ON MY OWN!!
lazy f**ks
Gig103
2012-01-31 04:05:54 PM
brigid_fitch
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They probably saw a decrease in fines and decided to go back to the old-fashioned meters before they lost too much revenue.
That's very cynical of you. And I bet it's accurate. I wonder if they'll put in any of the ones that read credit cards like I see in Tempe, AZ. Probably not though, since that cuts into revenue and people are more likely to feed the meter if they can.
theknuckler_33
2012-01-31 05:25:00 PM
Lando Lincoln
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Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
Nothing other than a guy comes up and reminds you that he's supposed to do it. You say 'whoops, I forgot about that.' and he says 'no problem, happens all the time.'.
tricycleracer
2012-01-31 05:29:21 PM
Sybarite
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Why not just give each parking space a letter and number designation that you enter when you pay? Link the system up to portable units carried by parking enforcement and they can easily check any space to see if it has time on it. No receipt necessary.
That's how the St. Pete Beach system works.
asmodeus224
2012-01-31 05:32:03 PM
It is harder to skim from the kiosks. There's your reason.
jigger
2012-01-31 05:33:32 PM
The new machines and the new digitized meters that take cards are there simply to eliminate using other people's excess time. There is no pulling up and having 15 minutes left on the meter and all that kind of bullshiat! And in the new individual meters that take cards, if you put new money in it starts the time over.
Rufus Lee King
2012-01-31 05:33:48 PM
Lando Lincoln
:
Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
moops
2012-01-31 05:35:22 PM
brigid_fitch
:
Bathia_Mapes: The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Oregon legalized it a few years ago. NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And The Loaf is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
Where the fark has it been legalized? I've never seen self-serve in Oregon, and I live here.
/doesn't own a car either, could be wrong
ZAZ
2012-01-31 05:36:50 PM
brigid_fitch
Normally you are not allowed to park at metered spaces beyond the maximum time you can buy all at once. Meters rarely charge market rates. If all they did was charge 50 cents per hour they would be monopolized by long term parkers. They are a way to enforce time limits. If you park past two hours the meter maid writes you a big ticket. It could be one city decided to look past the law to meet popular demand, and another did not.
(There is a movement towards market pricing of parking. That's a story for another day.)
Endive Wombat
I read an article about Washington, D.C.'s computerized parking system. You pay and the computer updates meter maids' handheld parking enforcement devices. The updates sometimes arrive after the ticket has been written. They claim at least 99% accuracy, which isn't enough.
Needlessly Complicated
2012-01-31 05:36:50 PM
They have those in Chicago. See how YOU like walking back and forth from a meter to put the receipt back in your car when the temperature outside is roughly that of a commercial deep freezer.
/daaaaamn yooooou, Rahm!!!! *shaking tiny fist*
//Yes, I know it wasn't him.
Pickerel
2012-01-31 05:37:18 PM
I'd rather pump my own gas than wait a got-dam half hour for someone to show up and do it for me!
/central Jersey
//doesn't smell bad unless the mulch pile next door catches fire
jigger
2012-01-31 05:39:29 PM
ZAZ
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I read an article about Washington, D.C.'s computerized parking system. You pay and the computer updates meter maids' handheld parking enforcement devices. The updates sometimes arrive after the ticket has been written. They claim at least 99% accuracy, which isn't enough.
Are you talking pay by phone? Because that shiat is awesome if you pull up to an old coin only meter and don't have $8 in quarters on you.
lacrossestar83
2012-01-31 05:42:27 PM
How farking far away is the passenger door?
Pickerel
2012-01-31 05:43:28 PM
brigid_fitch
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NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And The Loaf is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
I've been told before to pump my own gas, because the attendant was on the phone and couldn't be arsed to do it himself.
Fromageball
2012-01-31 05:43:42 PM
Why don't they just get machines that don't make you put a receipt on the dash? (yes I realize it costs $$$ to put in new machines) In Maryland you go to the pay station and you keep the ticket with you - which I guess leaves you vulnerable to the parking police who are just waiting for an opportunity to give a ticket - seriously where do they hide?? I saw one get cussed out recently and kind of felt sorry for them - I wonder if they ever are afraid that someone will attack them. I would be. I guess the parking folks have a device that lets them know whether or not a parking spot is paid for/current since you punch in a space number when you get the ticket.
Had to get used to the parking garages where you get a ticket when you go in, and then pay for parking when you come back before going to the car. It's so annoying when I realized I left the damned ticket in the car. It's ok though because if you're under an hour or 2 in some garages it's free.
mrtoadswildride
2012-01-31 05:44:19 PM
brigid_fitch
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Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
I pump my own when I'm on the bike, otherwise I *LIKE* not having to pump my own gas. Cold, snowy, raining, or too hot? Pffft...I stay nice & comfy in my car, thanks. So what if sometimes I have to wait a few seconds longer? I've got books in the car.
I'd be fine if it was only "a few seconds longer"....but it never is unless you're the only one at the pump (which almost never happens). Usually it's one guy handling 4-8 cars...and you're at the mercy of him coming over to you, pumping, removing the pump, running your card...It always adds an additional 5 minutes to a process that should only take like 5 minutes total.
NightOwl2255
2012-01-31 05:48:09 PM
My last fill-up I paid $3.09 a gallon. If they will pump it for that, I'm all for it. If they pump it for you here, if you can find a place, it's about 25 cents more a gallon.
/Here is Oklahoma City. Not much going for it, but we do have pretty cheap gas. And women.
fusillade762
2012-01-31 05:50:56 PM
Bathia_Mapes
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brigid_fitch: Bathia_Mapes: The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Oregon legalized it a few years ago. NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And The Loaf is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
At this point the only legal gas pumping options are if you're getting diesel fuel, or if you're gassing up a boat or motorcycle. You still can't legal gas up your own car.
A better question: why would you want to?
mrtoadswildride
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I'd be fine if it was only "a few seconds longer"....but it never is unless you're the only one at the pump (which almost never happens). Usually it's one guy handling 4-8 cars...and you're at the mercy of him coming over to you, pumping, removing the pump, running your card...It always adds an additional 5 minutes to a process that should only take like 5 minutes total.
I've NEVER had that problem. Waiting for the attendant never adds more than a minute, tops. At least this has been my experience.
Misch
2012-01-31 05:51:59 PM
Sybarite
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Why not just give each parking space a letter and number designation that you enter when you pay?
Street parking, no real "spots" needed when you have the ticketing machine. You would have to keep the spaces plowed well enough so you could read the numbers in snowy weather. Florida doesn't exactly have a "snowy weather" problem.
On the other hand, I've seen this style machine used in Phoenixville, PA, and some shore towns in NJ, so I guess they're not worried about the snow.
DVDave
2012-01-31 06:00:32 PM
brigid_fitch
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Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
I pump my own when I'm on the bike, otherwise I *LIKE* not having to pump my own gas. Cold, snowy, raining, or too hot? Pffft...I stay nice & comfy in my car, thanks. So what if sometimes I have to wait a few seconds longer? I've got books in the car.
This indeed. I'm from Oregon, the
other
don't-pump-your-own-gas state. I don't mind having someone else do it for me. And no, when i was on the motorcycle, I didn't let the attendant stick the nozzle between my legs either.
i find the gas prices in my hometown in Oregon are pretty close to what I pay here in Phoenix. If Oregon gas was notably more expensive, then I would definitely opt to pump my own if laying off station attendants meant the price would go down.
But it won't.
MBooda
2012-01-31 06:00:38 PM
But they sing real nice when the kids turn into a giant blueberry or something.
LineNoise
2012-01-31 06:00:58 PM
We have the muni meters, or pay stations or whatever they are called in my town. Its great, because I don't need to fish around looking for 4 quarters in my car when I park, or try and figure out which meter my car lines up with because some ass 5 cars up parked wrong, or if the meter is broken hope the meter maid notices and decides to show you mercy. Plus, like the story says, it frees up a few extra space, and is far cheaper for the city to collect (and in north jersey, eliminates the yearly story where a town realizes a million bucks in quarters from their meters has gone "missing")
The old fogies hate them, because aside from having to walk a bit, and having to press a few buttons, you don't get to take the time left on the meter from the last guy who was parked there.
LineNoise
2012-01-31 06:05:02 PM
DVDave
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brigid_fitch: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
I pump my own when I'm on the bike, otherwise I *LIKE* not having to pump my own gas. Cold, snowy, raining, or too hot? Pffft...I stay nice & comfy in my car, thanks. So what if sometimes I have to wait a few seconds longer? I've got books in the car.
This indeed. I'm from Oregon, the other don't-pump-your-own-gas state. I don't mind having someone else do it for me. And no, when i was on the motorcycle, I didn't let the attendant stick the nozzle between my legs either.
i find the gas prices in my hometown in Oregon are pretty close to what I pay here in Phoenix. If Oregon gas was notably more expensive, then I would definitely opt to pump my own if laying off station attendants meant the price would go down.
But it won't.
CSB years me and a friend are following the dead around. After being on the road for over a month, you get really used to pumping your own gas. Sure, when you leave NJ for the first few times you find yourself sitting for 5 minutes at the pump wondering where the attendant is, while everyone inside laughs at the idiot from jersey, but you get used to it, and really don't mind. I prefer pumping my own actually, as it is faster than waiting for the guy who couldn't rise above gas pumper to come and pump it for you.
Anyway, we are on the road for a while, and the whole self serve thing leaves your mind.
So one day we pull into oregon, and i get out, and start pumping the gas, and this guy comes literally running and screaming out of the gas station at us to stop.
Him: "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING!"
Me: "uhh, pumping my gas?"
So he looks at me, looks down at the front of my car and sees the jersey plate, and goes:
"You boys are from jersey. you should know better than to do something stupid like that, do you even know what you are doing?"
As if we somehow crossed the country without ever having to pump our gas once.
poot_rootbeer
2012-01-31 06:06:44 PM
Lando Lincoln
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Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The swarthy gentleman whose job it is to pump the gas will probably shout at you, which is more attention then he'd have paid to you otherwise.
The real reason for changing to the new parking system? Every car that parks has to pay anew, instead of some lucky jerks getting some minutes for free because the previous car put more time on the meter than they needed.
/who drives to Bayonne?
brigid_fitch
2012-01-31 06:06:48 PM
moops
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brigid_fitch: Bathia_Mapes: The Loaf: Lando Lincoln: Go ahead and try to pump your own gas in New Jersey. See what happens to you.
The attendant shrugs his shoulders and watches you? He might say "that's not legal here" or something similar, but he won't really make a move to stop you.
They will in Oregon.
Oregon legalized it a few years ago. NJ's the only state that won't let you pump your own. And The Loaf is right--the attendants don't care, as long as you're not a dick about it.
Where the fark has it been legalized? I've never seen self-serve in Oregon, and I live here.
/doesn't own a car either, could be wrong
Whoops, thought I read a few years ago that you legalized it. Just re-checked and I am incorrect.
Fool_Marquis
2012-01-31 06:07:50 PM
True story? True story.
I was working at a snack counter on the Boardwalk of Ocean City, Maryland, one summer. The beach was about 30' away from where i worked, directly across the boardwalk, with no intervening wall, barricade, or obstruction. You could see, hear, and smell the ocean.
A family approached me one day and the father, clearly a native of New Jersey asked, with all seriousness. "Excuse me, How do you get on the beach?"
I like to think i stared at them with sufficient disbelief. "Turn around, and walk across the boardwalk, until you have sand under your toes."
"No, we've come down from Jersey. Where do you pay?"
I had never heard of a beach with a toll before.
"The beach is free. If you want to, you could rent a chair or a umbrella, or any of a number of things from that shack way down there, on the beach. But you don't have to. Because the beach is free. Go on, have fun."
So, seriosuly, to all the New Jersey lovers in this thread, how much does it cost to get on the beach were you live?
LineNoise
2012-01-31 06:07:51 PM
fusillade762
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A better question: why would you want to?
because its quicker than waiting for the guy who is trying to pump gas in 6 cars that pulled in at the same time to do it.
Every few years a politician forgets where he is, and suggests they get rid of the law, and god help you, you have never seen old people mobilize like they do when the news gets wind that someone is thinking of changing the law.
Some senator suggested that we look into seeing if it would save some money if we gave the option, while still requiring all places to have an attendant for no extra charge, and people literally marched on the state house. The guy had to go on TV and give a tearful apology for suggesting something, in his own words, "so stupid"
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