There are only 2 companies I go with today HTC or Samsung everything else just seems cheap to me.

Dude, you're a barista.

/ Best commercial ever.

After using the iphone and then the moving to the Galaxy SII I have to say apple needs work ... but then I played with the Google Nexus prime ... man that phone is sweet! I love android 4.0.

bruce4bruce: After using the iphone and then the moving to the Galaxy SII I have to say apple needs work ... but then I played with the Google Nexus prime ... man that phone is sweet! I love android 4.0.

I'm definately happy with mine. But, as nice as ICS is, I find that I'm really missing Cyanogenmod. When CM9 comes out (stable), I'm moving back.

bruce4bruce: After using the iphone and then the moving to the Galaxy SII I have to say apple needs work ... but then I played with the Google Nexus prime ... man that phone is sweet! I love android 4.0.

Its the first version of Android I can take seriously even though the interface is still wildly inconsistent (is it really necessary for the settings icon to move to a different spot for every application and every single screen within the application - ugh!). And now you are seeing real security features put into the software. Hope the hardware takes advantage of it so we can start supporting androids and offer some an additional choice over iOS and blackberries (which I want to kill with fire).

timujin: Still, the article makes it sound like their competition is going to throw in the towel.

No, they are just going to go out of business for lack of profit. It has ceased to stun me about the complete lack of grasp that the Android ecosphere must necessarily collapse. This past year only two companies made any profit off Android and those companies are Samsung and Google. What zooms right over most people's heads is a simple matter of economics : what Google makes in profit off Android all year takes Apple about three weeks to make with iOS.

The other nail in that coffin is the Apple 'swipe to unlock' patent (no denying Android stomped all over it) which the Street fully expects to cost $10 to $20 per phone manufactured. This reality means, in short order, that Apple will make more profit off Android than Google with just one patent.

Android is outnumbered and surrounded by a superior force possessing superior firepower and yet... somehow, in some way you still expect Android to "win". That's just insane.

Kuroshin: Google is fixing that with new design mandates.

But... but... but... I thought Android was all "open" and stuff. You mean it's not? Because to me "mandates" sounds like a really vague way of saying "walled garden". Or "do it our way or GTFO", which is almost exactly how Apple does it.

I have to laugh at the Android retards who are suddenly embracing the closing of Android. I guess open wasn't all it was cracked up to be, now was it? Would it just kill you to break down and admit that maybe - just maybe - Apple had it right in the first place?

Agree that ICS is fantastic--at least it is on my Xoom. ICS is to Honeycomb as Windows 7 is to Vista. It's just a lot more refined, smooth, and intuitive. And I was pretty happy with my Xoom on Honeycomb. But yeah, still waiting for non-google apps to get updated for ICS. Though honestly, you can have a pretty complete user experience with just Google apps and the browser, which is much improved.

1macgeek: No, they are just going to go out of business for lack of profit. It has ceased to stun me about the complete lack of grasp that the Android ecosphere must necessarily collapse. This past year only two companies made any profit off Android and those companies are Samsung and Google. What zooms right over most people's heads is a simple matter of economics : what Google makes in profit off Android all year takes Apple about three weeks to make with iOS.

Shouldn't you be mad at a company for having absurd profit margins on their product? That just means you're getting overcharged for everything.

1macgeek: The other nail in that coffin is the Apple 'swipe to unlock' patent (no denying Android stomped all over it) which the Street fully expects to cost $10 to $20 per phone manufactured. This reality means, in short order, that Apple will make more profit off Android than Google with just one patent.

Android 4.0 doesn't use slide to unlock. Nor do any of Samsung phones.

1macgeek: But... but... but... I thought Android was all "open" and stuff. You mean it's not? Because to me "mandates" sounds like a really vague way of saying "walled garden". Or "do it our way or GTFO", which is almost exactly how Apple does it.

Except they're not mandates. They're guidelines. Google isn't going to police the market the way Apple has. I have no idea what you're basing that assumption on.

Great, maybe they can work on that whole not requiring programs to close upon no longer accessing the app resulting in really efficient battery draining.


/WP7
//"OMG YOU CAN DO SO MUCH ON THE ANDROID OS!"
///ya I know the arguments
////android is still a crap nasty os

Samsung's hardware is nice, but their crappy "TouchWiz" interface is an abomination. Makes their phones unusable. Plus, their phones aren't durable. Flimsy plastic crap.

HTC is pretty good.

I still like the Motorola phones. They're durable, and they work well. You don't get the quite the same hackability as you do with the HTCs, but the phones work better.

redpanda2: 1macgeek: The other nail in that coffin is the Apple 'swipe to unlock' patent (no denying Android stomped all over it) which the Street fully expects to cost $10 to $20 per phone manufactured. This reality means, in short order, that Apple will make more profit off Android than Google with just one patent.

Android 4.0 doesn't use slide to unlock. Nor do any of Samsung phones.

if I were google, I'd remove the feature and then offer it on the app store for whatever apple is charging for the patent, saying explicitly why it costs taht much.


anyway, I adore my samsung droid charge. this thing is amazing. it upgraded itself recently too. (no, I don't know what version I'm running, and I don't care, it works).

Here is why Android has a shot long term vs. Apple -

Google's ability to print money in the search business - Apple has one misstep that hurts them for a year in sales, they lose their cash cow - Google's search business is much more secure, and they can keep funding Android through that platforms ups and downs -

Google for the win -

bruce4bruce: After using the iphone and then the moving to the Galaxy SII I have to say apple needs work ... but then I played with the Google Nexus prime ... man that phone is sweet! I love android 4.0.

same switch, seem sentiment

redpanda2: Shouldn't you be mad at a company for having absurd profit margins on their product? That just means you're getting overcharged for everything.

This is the most mind-numbingly stupid thing I have ever read. The complete lack of even the most basic understanding of business or economics is so broad and so vast it makes Jupiter look like an atom. Truly, if the stupidity behind that statement had a gravitational field black holes couldn't escape it. The sheer density makes a neutron star look like a marshmallow.

I would respond to your other points, but after reading that... I seriously question your ability to comprehend reality.

timujin: There are only two options available, Android and Windows 7 Phone.

Fail.

Old news is old.

It's quite obvious you have not heard about Canonical getting into the game. I believe Ubuntu will be a mortal threat to Apple AND Google. The latest version of Ubuntu is quite good, and quite Mac-like. If Ubuntu can bring their game up a notch or two, Android will be history in short order as the manufacturers bolt for the door. They simply don't have a choice if they wish to survive.

Katie98_KT: anyway, I adore my samsung droid charge.

Gotta agree with you there. I have had the Charge for 6 months or so and thought about giving it up for a Gnex but couldnt bring myself to do it.

I will admit that touchwiz sucks. I thought it was great until I got to carry a Thunderbolt for a few weeks. Sense is so much better. I just wish that Samsung would open up the RIL on the Charge so we could get CM. I missed out on playing with it on my Fascinate and have hopes of using it on the Charge.

All that being said, the Gnex only had 10 days to be sold before Christmas, the iPhone had several months. If they would have taken full advantage of the holiday shopping season, things would have been slightly different.

The iPhone is decent and does a lot of good things without a learning curve and I will not put it down (much) but the day is fast approaching that Android will be that "polished". ICS is close, I think Jellybean will hit the mark head on.

jsteiner78: Google's ability to print money in the search business

... is very much in question with their new "Privacy" revisions. It remains to be seen how many people are heading for the door. Since I discovered ixquick.com, I rarely use Google for search. I am shutting down my gmail and closing everything else related to Google in any fashion. If I am the only one, then perhaps you are right. I am betting that I am not alone. Far from it. I think Google's ability to turn a buck is going to be hindered this year.

If just five percent of Google's search traffic flips to ixquick (where you get the same results with no privacy loss), then Google will be in a world of hurt.

1macgeek: jsteiner78: Google's ability to print money in the search business

... is very much in question with their new "Privacy" revisions. It remains to be seen how many people are heading for the door. Since I discovered ixquick.com, I rarely use Google for search. I am shutting down my gmail and closing everything else related to Google in any fashion. If I am the only one, then perhaps you are right. I am betting that I am not alone. Far from it. I think Google's ability to turn a buck is going to be hindered this year.

If just five percent of Google's search traffic flips to ixquick (where you get the same results with no privacy loss), then Google will be in a world of hurt.

This is really impressive trolling, I'd say an solid 8/10. Well done!

Piizzadude: Katie98_KT: anyway, I adore my samsung droid charge.

Gotta agree with you there. I have had the Charge for 6 months or so and thought about giving it up for a Gnex but couldnt bring myself to do it.

I will admit that touchwiz sucks. I thought it was great until I got to carry a Thunderbolt for a few weeks. Sense is so much better. I just wish that Samsung would open up the RIL on the Charge so we could get CM. I missed out on playing with it on my Fascinate and have hopes of using it on the Charge.

All that being said, the Gnex only had 10 days to be sold before Christmas, the iPhone had several months. If they would have taken full advantage of the holiday shopping season, things would have been slightly different.

The iPhone is decent and does a lot of good things without a learning curve and I will not put it down (much) but the day is fast approaching that Android will be that "polished". ICS is close, I think Jellybean will hit the mark head on.

Is Jellybean the next Android OS?

Piizzadude: Katie98_KT: anyway, I adore my samsung droid charge.

Gotta agree with you there. I have had the Charge for 6 months or so and thought about giving it up for a Gnex but couldnt bring myself to do it.

I will admit that touchwiz sucks. I thought it was great until I got to carry a Thunderbolt for a few weeks. Sense is so much better. I just wish that Samsung would open up the RIL on the Charge so we could get CM. I missed out on playing with it on my Fascinate and have hopes of using it on the Charge.

All that being said, the Gnex only had 10 days to be sold before Christmas, the iPhone had several months. If they would have taken full advantage of the holiday shopping season, things would have been slightly different.

The iPhone is decent and does a lot of good things without a learning curve and I will not put it down (much) but the day is fast approaching that Android will be that "polished". ICS is close, I think Jellybean will hit the mark head on.

Well, and the fact that everyone expects iPhone sales to spike the one quarter where they release a phone relative to Android manufacturers, which release incrementally better phones all the time.

Personally, I think ICS itself is quite polished. The only piece that's missing is the third-party apps, but those will come once non-nexus phones start getting ICS.

As someone joining their product planning group this May, I'm getting a kick.

redpanda2: Well, and the fact that everyone expects iPhone sales to spike the one quarter where they release a phone year over year relative to Android manufacturers, which release incrementally better phones all the time abandon their users even before the service contract is up.

FTFY.

1macgeek: It's quite obvious you have not heard about Canonical getting into the game. I believe Ubuntu will be a mortal threat to Apple AND Google. The latest version of Ubuntu is quite good, and quite Mac-like. If Ubuntu can bring their game up a notch or two, Android will be history in short order as the manufacturers bolt for the door. They simply don't have a choice if they wish to survive.

When has Ubuntu every been a viable competition outside of the mega geeky?

And they do have a choice, WM7 and android, that is a choice and most choose android. Unless apple's new phone is really great then I expect a drop off to start happening, right now its in style but the first time some vapid twat show up on her reality show with another brand of phone you will know its over.

1macgeek: redpanda2: Well, and the fact that everyone expects iPhone sales to spike the one quarter where they release a phone year over year relative to Android manufacturers, which release incrementally better phones all the time abandon their users even before the service contract is up.

FTFY.

Really? Do you really think that? I had an issue with my atrix and motorola emailed me after I had the problem and then even shipped me a new one at no charge so they could test the issue with my phone, this was after the atrix 2 came out.

1macgeek --

Google controls 44.8% of market share AND is growing faster than Apple (new window)

For every company that may go bankrupt because they embraced android... there will be another android company profiting from gaining their users.

You are about to learn about Darwin. Open source evolves far quicker than closed source.... there ability to evolve = why Google's market share is growing much faster than Apple's...and why Google was able to easily overtake Apple from it's throne...

1macgeek: No, they are just going to go out of business for lack of profit. It has ceased to stun me about the complete lack of grasp that the Android ecosphere must necessarily collapse. This past year only two companies made any profit off Android and those companies are Samsung and Google. What zooms right over most people's heads is a simple matter of economics : what Google makes in profit off Android all year takes Apple about three weeks to make with iOS.

The other nail in that coffin is the Apple 'swipe to unlock' patent (no denying Android stomped all over it) which the Street fully expects to cost $10 to $20 per phone manufactured. This reality means, in short order, that Apple will make more profit off Android than Google with just one patent.



Cheering corporate profits? Check

Cheering inane patents? Check

Epic fanboy fail.

Unless you're coming strictly from a shareholder perspective, but somehow I don't think that's the case.

The only Samsung phone I've had was the Charge. It had the most beautiful screen I've seen on a phone, and, since I had the free upgrade from Verizon, I got it.

Worst.Droid.Ever.

The bluetooth kept its connection for maybe 10 minutes at a time, which was made even more frustrating since I stream my music in my car from the phone during my hour ride to college. You had to do a reboot, unpair the phone to the stereo, repair it, then hope it lasted 10 more minutes before it dropped. I've checked a lot of forums about this, and it has happened to nearly every car stereo and headset, with no fix from Samsung for months.

fark that.

Finally, the GPS on the Charge, as it is with damn near all Samsung phones, it flat-out horrible. It would take anywhere from 5-20 minutes to lock on to a signal, and it wasn't a fault of Google Maps, since I tested the signal using a couple of apps I've had since my original Droid 1. The phone would simply refuse to lock the GPS signal.

fark that, too.

I was waiting to get some estimate on a date that CM7 would be released for it (hoping it would fix the issues Samsung obviously doesn't give a shiat about), but got impatient. Got so damn frustrated with the phone and its many faults I just ended up buying a Motorola Droid Bionic. Hands-down the best damn phone I've seen and handled. My buddy with a 4S was kicking himself for getting his iPhone when he asked to see mine.

/still keep the Charge... learning how to program apps, so it'll be one of my "test units"
//unit..... giggity.

I love my new Galaxy S2. Having been a non-player in the smart phone chess game for years (trusty old Motorola Razr just died...) I had the option of picking the iPhone or the Galaxy. Seeing ALL of my friends with their barricaded iphones as a result of cracked screens and conformist consumerism, the obvious choice was the Galaxy. Had it about a week and truly love the operating system, quality, speed and battery life of this phone. I still can't wait for Sprint to launch ICS for these things in the upcoming months;)

From Apple Fanboys. now all I hear is about how Samsung stole this and that and Apple made this and that, etc.

Bottom line as for now, my phone is faster, has a better screen, and MUCH more durable fhan the hippest kid in class....who ironically is never the smartest kid in class.

Had Apple chosen practicality over aesthetics, their phone would be the clear choice to make for any new smart phone buyer. Being a consumer didn't who didn't want to wade into the mainstream Apple culture, I am happy to take place in the actual "this is cooler than yours" class. Because I am right.

SCIENCE BABY.

StopDon'tTouchMeThere: I love my new Galaxy S2. Having been a non-player in the smart phone chess game for years (trusty old Motorola Razr just died...) I had the option of picking the iPhone or the Galaxy. Seeing ALL of my friends with their barricaded iphones as a result of cracked screens and conformist consumerism, the obvious choice was the Galaxy. Had it about a week and truly love the operating system, quality, speed and battery life of this phone. I still can't wait for Sprint to launch ICS for these things in the upcoming months;)

From Apple Fanboys. now all I hear is about how Samsung stole this and that and Apple made this and that, etc.

Bottom line as for now, my phone is faster, has a better screen, and MUCH more durable fhan the hippest kid in class....who ironically is never the smartest kid in class.

Had Apple chosen practicality over aesthetics, their phone would be the clear choice to make for any new smart phone buyer. Being a consumer didn't who didn't want to wade into the mainstream Apple culture, I am happy to take place in the actual "this is cooler than yours" class. Because I am right.

SCIENCE BABY.

-10/10

/You're not even correct on your facts

steamingpile: Really? Do you really think that?

Which answer do you want? Yes? Or OH, HELL YES !

I know this is going to be difficult for you to comprehend, but do try to keep up :

Businesses that are losing money don't like to pour even more money down a rat-hole.

Right now, the only way for AT&T or Verizon to make money on Android is sell you a new phone. Why? Because Android users are such tight-fisted, miserly, cheapskate bastards they make Ebenezer Scrooge look like a flaming spendthrift. The mindset in the overwhelming majority of Android users is that everything should be free. These are the people Apple is more than willing - giddy, even - to cede to Google and the Android ecosphere.

After all, what good does it do to have customers that won't spend money? Every econ 101 class teaches the insanity of having an increasing share of a decreasing market and that is a precise and exact description of the Android ecosphere. More and more people less and less willing to spend money are piling on that steaming pile of crap that is Android. It has to collapse, the only question is : how long will it take?

Meanwhile, they are costing the carriers and the manufacturers a boatload of money. Why? Because Android people are looking for everything for free, so they don't buy the products and services with the big, fat, juicy margins. The only person evidently willing to argue this point is you. One only has to look at the 10-Qs of every company touching Android to see there is a huge problem. Every where one looks, save Google and Samsung, there is a sea of red ink. That can't go on forever, and it won't.

The first step in stopping the bleeding is to quit throwing money at people who won't spend any, and that has manifested itself in the form of stopping updates for people who have contracts that are not expired. The new reality will be the OS your Android phone ships with will be the OS you have forever.

Stop it. Stop it right now. No, the majority of people out there cannot and WILL NOT upgrade their phones themselves. They are not technically capable of it. They will just become more and more pissed off until they jump ship. Realistically, they will jump ship to either the last carrier still doing updates, or to Apple.

In every way one wants to look at the situation Android is in very real trouble. The only people who can't see this are the people so emotionally invested in Android it robs them of the ability to do math and reason. Which brings me to my next victim...

1macgeek: steamingpile: Really? Do you really think that?

Which answer do you want? Yes? Or OH, HELL YES !

I know this is going to be difficult for you to comprehend, but do try to keep up :

Businesses that are losing money don't like to pour even more money down a rat-hole.

Right now, the only way for AT&T or Verizon to make money on Android is sell you a new phone. Why? Because Android users are such tight-fisted, miserly, cheapskate bastards they make Ebenezer Scrooge look like a flaming spendthrift. The mindset in the overwhelming majority of Android users is that everything should be free. These are the people Apple is more than willing - giddy, even - to cede to Google and the Android ecosphere.

After all, what good does it do to have customers that won't spend money? Every econ 101 class teaches the insanity of having an increasing share of a decreasing market and that is a precise and exact description of the Android ecosphere. More and more people less and less willing to spend money are piling on that steaming pile of crap that is Android. It has to collapse, the only question is : how long will it take?

Meanwhile, they are costing the carriers and the manufacturers a boatload of money. Why? Because Android people are looking for everything for free, so they don't buy the products and services with the big, fat, juicy margins. The only person evidently willing to argue this point is you. One only has to look at the 10-Qs of every company touching Android to see there is a huge problem. Every where one looks, save Google and Samsung, there is a sea of red ink. That can't go on forever, and it won't.

The first step in stopping the bleeding is to quit throwing money at people who won't spend any, and that has manifested itself in the form of stopping updates for people who have contracts that are not expired. The new reality will be the OS your Android phone ships with will be the OS you have forever.

Stop it. Stop it right now. No, the majority of people out ...

Admit it, you're a fAndroid trolling.

Green81: For every company that may go bankrupt because they embraced android... there will be another android company profiting from gaining their users.

Speaking of being so emotionally invested one is robbed of reason...

Let me spell it out so even you can understand it : FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES THERE IS NO PROFIT IN THE ANDROID ECOSYSTEM. If you are a company losing money because your customers are a bunch of tight-fisted, miserly, penny-pinching dullards who think everything should be free, then where do you profit by gaining even more of the same?

The only people suffering from the delusion of profit in the Android ecosphere are those who are so completely stupid they cannot read or comprehend a 10-Q statement. Apparently, you are one of them.

Green81: You are about to learn about Darwin. Open source evolves far quicker than closed source.... there ability to evolve = why Google's market share is growing much faster than Apple's...and why Google was able to easily overtake Apple from its throne...

ROFLMAO!!! Please, do me a favor and keep repeating this to yourself while you suck your thumb, trying to go to sleep at night. Oh, there is a Darwin lesson about to be learned, but Apple is the instructor of that particular course.

What you completely fail to grasp, and no shock there, is Apple gives a flying fark-all about market share. It is literally impossible for Apple to care less about it. What Apple has learned, and the entire Android ecosphere missed, is that it is about profit, not market share. The financials Apple released last week prove this out. For crying out loud, Apple had more profit than Google had revenue. Apple made more profit just from iTunes last quarter than Google makes off Android ALL YEAR.

This is also bourne out in Apple selling more iOS devices than Android sold.

If you go here, you might start getting a clue. Click on the "Revenues and Profits" menu, and compare directly to Google. But there is one thing you are completely forgetting, right along with every knee-jerk, overly-emotional, unthinking Android supporter : what about the future?

The reason I bring it up is look what happened with just a minor revision called the Apple 4S. Exactly what do you think is going to happen when the vast majority of iPhone contracts start coming up for renewal this summer? I am betting heavily that is when we will see the iPhone "5", and if you think this quarter was dumbfounding, you haven't seen anything yet. Imagine, if you will, a giant, thundering wave of money that will sweep away everything in its path. A solid wave of greenbacks so large, so all-encompassing it will cause the most jaded Wall-Streeter to gasp in awe and go slack-jawed. A vast, deep swell of money that makes the ocean look like a puddle. That is what Android will have to compete with.

Better get your life jacket on and start swimming now.

digistil: Admit it, you're a fAndroid trolling.

No. I am pounding reality into the skulls full of mush that would rather believe a lie than what is happening right before them. The simple economic reality cannot be argued :

1. Nobody ever got rich diving for the low end of the market
2. Android users are the low end of the market

The Android ecosystem WILL collapse. Anyone arguing to the contrary is either so mind-numbingly stupid as to not be worth paying attention to, or so emotionally invested they are crafting a delusion bourne of pure, undistilled insanity. The simple fact of the matter is Android cannot survive, let alone thrive, with only two companies powering it.

The carriers are losing money. The manufacturers are losing money. They are looking for ways to stop the losses, and when that opportunity presents itself they will drop Android like a bad habit. I believe Ubuntu's new mobile effort represents that opportunity. It allows the carriers to drop the money losing part of selling Android phones, which is the updating process. The only question is : can they wait until 2014? Can they hang on that long?

We will see. In the meantime it would not shock me in the least to discover one or more carriers (or even the manufacturers) were throwing piles of money at Canonical to hurry them along. Well, at least they would be if they were smart.

Pity nobody has accused them of that recently.

1macgeek: I know this is going to be difficult for you to comprehend, but do try to keep up :

So you are blaming android for manufacturers and their bloatware for farking up the updates? Typical macidiot.

Let me say this slowly, the market is easier when you deal with one device than 30+ devices.

1macgeek: The Android ecosystem WILL collapse. Anyone arguing to the contrary is either so mind-numbingly stupid as to not be worth paying attention to, or so emotionally invested they are crafting a delusion bourne of pure, undistilled insanity. The simple fact of the matter is Android cannot survive, let alone thrive, with only two companies powering it.

Yet apple will survive with one company powering it?

Ok, so you are just a troll.

1macgeek: timujin: Still, the article makes it sound like their competition is going to throw in the towel.

No, they are just going to go out of business for lack of profit. It has ceased to stun me about the complete lack of grasp that the Android ecosphere must necessarily collapse. This past year only two companies made any profit off Android and those companies are Samsung and Google. What zooms right over most people's heads is a simple matter of economics : what Google makes in profit off Android all year takes Apple about three weeks to make with iOS.

The other nail in that coffin is the Apple 'swipe to unlock' patent (no denying Android stomped all over it) which the Street fully expects to cost $10 to $20 per phone manufactured. This reality means, in short order, that Apple will make more profit off Android than Google with just one patent.

Android is outnumbered and surrounded by a superior force possessing superior firepower and yet... somehow, in some way you still expect Android to "win". That's just insane.

Kuroshin: Google is fixing that with new design mandates.

But... but... but... I thought Android was all "open" and stuff. You mean it's not? Because to me "mandates" sounds like a really vague way of saying "walled garden". Or "do it our way or GTFO", which is almost exactly how Apple does it.

I have to laugh at the Android retards who are suddenly embracing the closing of Android. I guess open wasn't all it was cracked up to be, now was it? Would it just kill you to break down and admit that maybe - just maybe - Apple had it right in the first place?

How does Steve's zombie cock feel in your mouth? You should really learn to think for yourself, rather than regurgitating apple talking points.

egosumgoofy: How does Steve's zombie cock feel in your mouth? You should really learn to think for yourself, rather than regurgitating apple talking points.

So... you seriously believe all the companies on the Android bandwagon losing money is anApple talking point? Wow. Just wow.

Well, if given the choice between being an asshole that points out reality and being more-dense-than-a-black-hole level of stupidity like you - I guess I just have to keep being an asshole.

1macgeek: egosumgoofy: How does Steve's zombie cock feel in your mouth? You should really learn to think for yourself, rather than regurgitating apple talking points.

So... you seriously believe all the companies on the Android bandwagon losing money is anApple talking point? Wow. Just wow.

Well, if given the choice between being an asshole that points out reality and being more-dense-than-a-black-hole level of stupidity like you - I guess I just have to keep being an asshole.

Black hole level stupidity, huh? Nice. I guess I'm smart enough to read and not look at everything through apple colored glasses. A simple Google search will demonstrate that your "facts" are bullshiat and that a company can be profitable without a ridiculous 40%+ margin on outdated products.

Here's a hint: being unnecessarily aggressive and attacking only demonstrates that you are full of shiat and cannot otherwise substantiate your assertions.