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2012-01-31 11:02:51 AM  
*wince*
 
2012-01-31 11:08:34 AM  
That's what happens if you don't kick your leg back just like in the movies.
 
2012-01-31 11:10:41 AM  
Subby, I'm going to hell, and I'm damn well taking you with me.
 
2012-01-31 11:11:27 AM  
resources0.news.com.au

Could not be reached for comment
 
2012-01-31 11:16:41 AM  
Hand crank to start? What is this, some sort of Model T airplane??
 
2012-01-31 11:17:34 AM  
I don't think I'd get in a Piper that wasn't maintained well enough to start it's own engine.

I wonder if he made the mistake of trying to start it by pushing down. I think you're supposed to hand start props by pulling up, so your body is arcing backward from the prop.
 
2012-01-31 11:18:30 AM  
Why did they leave all his clothes in front of the plane?
 
2012-01-31 11:18:58 AM  
Beautifully played, subbs.
 
2012-01-31 11:20:12 AM  

wildcardjack: I don't think I'd get in a Piper any farking airplane known to man that wasn't maintained well enough to start it's own engine.


Fixed
 
2012-01-31 11:20:35 AM  
Charles F. Kettering(1856-1958) is dissappoint
 
2012-01-31 11:20:54 AM  

nopokerface: Beautifully played, subbs.


I'm here to say this.
 
2012-01-31 11:24:10 AM  

Honest Bender: Why did they leave all his clothes in front of the plane?


Because when it hit his head, he popped and deflated.
 
2012-01-31 11:34:07 AM  
There must have been a lot of tension in the rubber band.
 
2012-01-31 11:34:51 AM  
Subby, you magnificent bastard.
 
2012-01-31 11:38:36 AM  
Did he yell CONTACT! first?
 
2012-01-31 11:43:25 AM  
I bet THAT left a mark!
 
2012-01-31 11:43:40 AM  
CONTACT. TAKEOFF! CONTACT! TOOK OFF!
 
2012-01-31 11:43:56 AM  
Subby, for that headline you are going to die in a firing-up-the-airplane accident.


/+1
//+2, even.
 
2012-01-31 11:52:59 AM  
latimesblogs.latimes.com

I like the expression on the investigators. "So, this is an airplane you say?"
"Yup, and here's how you open the door." "Hey what's that over there on the ground?"
 
2012-01-31 12:00:04 PM  
Is that like the Delta Slice-and-Dice™ seats?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-31 12:02:01 PM  
You should be ashamed of yourself, Subby. This man was a model citizen.
 
2012-01-31 12:04:21 PM  

Honest Bender: Why did they leave all his clothes in front of the plane?


He was Jedi and his body disappeared.
 
2012-01-31 12:05:05 PM  
That's like the lady that backed into the airplane propeller.

Disaster.
 
2012-01-31 12:11:44 PM  
Had he been drinking? Maybe he was soused

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-31 12:14:53 PM  
I used to be a pilot like you, but then I took a propeller to the head.
 
2012-01-31 12:23:25 PM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com

Ferro approves.
 
2012-01-31 12:24:27 PM  

SirTanon: [resources0.news.com.au image 316x421]

Could not be reached for comment


Eye have to hand it to ya, you beat me to it.
 
2012-01-31 12:26:36 PM  
Is it too early to vote for a HOTY candidate?
 
2012-01-31 12:28:02 PM  
Also the same warning they give Greyhound bus riders in Canada.
 
2012-01-31 12:37:37 PM  

JohnCarter: Hand crank to start? What is this, some sort of Model T airplane??


It is sometimes necessary to hand prop an airplane. The starter could have a problem and propping a plane is really no different than push starting a car. I've done it a few times and it always made me nervous. It's never a good idea to attempt to do this alone. I always wanted another pilot in the cockpit to assist and made sure all wheels were chocked.

Bruce the Deuce: That's what happens if you don't kick your leg back just like in the movies.


Actually you start with your leg thrown forward and arms extended fully. This gives you the leverage you need without your head pitching forward into the prop. The trick is to complete the maneuver standing straight up and immediately turned to the side, so you can step out of the way very quickly if needed.
 
2012-01-31 12:39:25 PM  

wildcardjack: I don't think I'd get in a Piper that wasn't maintained well enough to start it's own engine.

I wonder if he made the mistake of trying to start it by pushing down. I think you're supposed to hand start props by pulling up, so your body is arcing backward from the prop.


No, you hand prop by pushing down in the same direction of rotation as the propeller. Where this idiot went wrong was that you're supposed to hold the prop at about an arms length; push down and away from the propeller as you follow through. Oh, and chock the goddamn gear. You know, so this kind of shiat doesn't happen.

And typically the only reason why you'd hand start is because the starter motor is blown, or unable to kick over the prop so the magnetos can light the spark plugs. So long as the engine starts you're actually in pretty good shape.

/flown planes where you had to give the battery a jump from a Ford Explorer in order for it to start
//why yes it flew perfectly fine after it started
///CSB, I know
 
2012-01-31 12:40:17 PM  

wildcardjack: I don't think I'd get in a Piper that wasn't maintained well enough to start it's own engine.

I wonder if he made the mistake of trying to start it by pushing down. I think you're supposed to hand start props by pulling up, so your body is arcing backward from the prop.


To save weight the battery is as small as possible. Get a battery that is a couple of years old and a cold morning and it isn't uncommon to find that the aircraft will not start on its own. Getting a jump start on some models is more of a PITA than just getting help to prop start it.

Always seen it done overhead pulling down myself. Although I've been shown how to do it and seen it done numerous time there is no way in h*ll you'll get me in front unless it was a dire emergency.
 
2012-01-31 12:44:15 PM  

wildcardjack: I don't think I'd get in a Piper that wasn't maintained well enough to start it's own engine.

I wonder if he made the mistake of trying to start it by pushing down. I think you're supposed to hand start props by pulling up, so your body is arcing backward from the prop.


Not sure; my dad has an Aeronca that has to be hand started that way. He always pulled down on the propeller and never had any incidents like the one in TFA.
 
2012-01-31 12:48:25 PM  

CthulhuCalling: [lh5.googleusercontent.com image 144x92]

Ferro approves.


See, the problem with that guy was that all his propeller starts had been simulated.

/"Spunkmeyer? *taps headset mic*
//"Goddammit."
 
2012-01-31 12:53:20 PM  
Is that a blood stain on the lower propeller blade?

/just a little off the top, barber
 
2012-01-31 01:04:28 PM  

JackieRabbit: JohnCarter: Hand crank to start? What is this, some sort of Model T airplane??

It is sometimes necessary to hand prop an airplane. The starter could have a problem and propping a plane is really no different than push starting a car. I've done it a few times and it always made me nervous. It's never a good idea to attempt to do this alone. I always wanted another pilot in the cockpit to assist and made sure all wheels were chocked.

Bruce the Deuce: That's what happens if you don't kick your leg back just like in the movies.

Actually you start with your leg thrown forward and arms extended fully. This gives you the leverage you need without your head pitching forward into the prop. The trick is to complete the maneuver standing straight up and immediately turned to the side, so you can step out of the way very quickly if needed.


No, starting with the leg forward and swinging it back (as you follow through with the down stroke of the prop (open palms flat against the blade, not gripped with the fingers curled around the edge)) creates a natural momentum AWAY front the prop arc. If you don't use this technique, the head will fall forward with predictable results.
 
2012-01-31 01:06:08 PM  
*from not "front"
 
2012-01-31 01:16:36 PM  

Teen Wolf Blitzer: I used to be a pilot like you, but then I took a propeller to the head.


*snort*
 
2012-01-31 01:20:09 PM  

wildcardjack: I don't think I'd get in a Piper that wasn't maintained well enough to start it's own engine.

I wonder if he made the mistake of trying to start it by pushing down. I think you're supposed to hand start props by pulling up, so your body is arcing backward from the prop.


Oh no. You never pull up on the prop; you push down on the side of the prop in which it turns (usually clockwise as you face it in a single engine). There's too much risk of that you'd tumble backward and put your legs into the prop path. Our forward balance is much finer than our backward balance. See my earlier post for the correct procedure.
 
2012-01-31 02:21:00 PM  

CthulhuCalling: [lh5.googleusercontent.com image 144x92]

Ferro approves.


Damn you!

No word on if there was any hull ionization?

FTA: Man hit in head by airplane propeller dies
So he was walking around in a factory that made airplane propellers? How did he get hit with more than one die? Was he okay?

So much the article leaves out.
 
2012-01-31 02:47:09 PM  
www.indianajones.de

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2012-01-31 06:00:29 PM  

wildcardjack: I think you're supposed to hand start props by pulling up


Nope.
 
2012-01-31 06:05:29 PM  
Flew an Aeronca Chief for years for sun. It was a '46, no starter, just hand propping.
 
2012-01-31 06:05:51 PM  
err, fun....
 
2012-01-31 09:10:03 PM  

Zeno-25: Is that like the Delta Slice-and-Dice™ seats?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 260x168]


that looks horrifying.
 
2012-01-31 11:28:40 PM  
have hand propped many airplanes, without any ill effect----you have to be extremely careful, and since a lot of small airplanes have an impulse magneto, it is very possible to barely pull the prop thru and have the engine start.--and look, no chocks on the airplane.
 
2012-02-01 03:02:35 AM  
HOTY nominee.
 
2012-02-01 02:57:48 PM  
Head(less)line of the year?
 
2012-02-03 10:55:39 PM  
+1 subby
 
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