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2012-01-31 12:07:01 AM
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2012-01-31 12:09:49 AM
I had friends who 10 years ago swore to me that PC Gaming was the future because it was dynamic and that they would eventually overtake consoles. Here we are 10 years later, and PC gaming is an extreme niche dominated only by specific genres that only the nerdiest of nerds care about.
 
2012-01-31 12:17:47 AM
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Warren says hard-core gamers often soup up systems by adding motherboards, boosting RAM and optimizing graphics.
 
2012-01-31 12:36:43 AM
A 16 page slideshow? Fark that.

spman: Here we are 10 years later, and PC gaming is an extreme niche dominated only by specific genres that only the nerdiest of nerds care about.

Wat? There are very few games that are out there on consoles that are not out on PCs. PCs definitely dominate indie gaming, and with services like Steam, GOG, et al helping to promote and distribute for them, indie developers are really coming into their own. But most of the biggest titles have both console and PC releases these days.

There is one really good thing that the rise of consoles has done for PC gaming, IMHO. Because consoles are feature locked, and developers have to make their games looks as good as they can on such hardware, the need to upgrade to the latest and greatest graphics cards and such on the PC side has been reduced. Sure, you can definitely get benefits by upgrading all the time. But, you can still play a lot of the latest games (granted at reduced resolution or graphics quality) on rather modest hardware.

Hell, I game on my MacBook Pro with a 512MB GeForce 9600M, which by most accounts is a pretty crappy card. Yet I've managed to comfortably play even very recent games, such as Saints Row the Third, Batman: Arkham City, etc. very comfortably and with them looking nice enough. Granted they'd look better on better hardware, but they are good enough.

So, thanks to consoles, PC gamers don't have to feel the pressure to upgrade their hardware just so they can run the latest game at even the lowest frame-rates. That's nice. :)
 
2012-01-31 12:40:32 AM
This article basically assumes the being gamer means having the most expensive of everything, a lot which most gamers either don't have or probably wouldn't want.
 
2012-01-31 12:57:54 AM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: This article basically assumes the being gamer means having the most expensive of everything, a lot which most gamers either don't have or probably wouldn't want.

Also what gamer outside of the sim crowd uses a joystick? and a wireless mouse?
 
2012-01-31 02:03:22 AM
spman: I had friends who 10 years ago swore to me that PC Gaming was the future because it was dynamic and that they would eventually overtake consoles. Here we are 10 years later, and PC gaming is an extreme niche dominated only by specific genres that only the nerdiest of nerds care about.

What? I don't understand any of this. I play a lot of games and my laptop (with HDMI cable for the big TV, 2 years old) still plays most games just fine. But who cares anyway about having a new system? Unless you never had a job for the past 20 years, why worry about new games? I buy PS2 games off eBay for .99 cents and I probably will die before I work through all the great ones.

I'm playing FFVII on my old Dell PC from 2003 and it's an amazing game; I never played it until now.

What is the thrill of buying a new game and having the newest graphics card, exactly? What do you get out of that? Does it make you excited to be the first kid on the block? Why do you need all this? Are you finished with all the excellent games made up until 2012? Really?
 
2012-01-31 02:06:15 AM
zedster: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: This article basically assumes the being gamer means having the most expensive of everything, a lot which most gamers either don't have or probably wouldn't want.

Also what gamer outside of the sim crowd uses a joystick? and a wireless mouse?


And what does this mean? Huh?
 
2012-01-31 05:20:30 AM
"Adding motherboards"? I really hope they mean something more akin to switching out a slow/low-end board with a better one because I don't really recall any gaming computers running off more than one mobo...

Also, seriously? $600 for 30 games on Steam? I really hope they're running that information off of new games that were just released and were also 'purchased' for the 360/PS3 numbers as well, because I know for a big ass farking fact that you can get 30 games for well under $100 on Steam if you know what you're doing.

Lastly, a freaking premade computer to put in the tally? Ugh, well, if you want to waste money I guess...

/note, I'm not saying some premade systems aren't good, just normally you can buy the components for a lot cheaper
 
2012-01-31 05:21:49 AM
Is this where we vent about how consoles are killing PC gaming?
 
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2012-01-31 05:24:47 AM
spman: I had friends who 10 years ago swore to me that PC Gaming was the future because it was dynamic and that they would eventually overtake consoles. Here we are 10 years later, and PC gaming is an extreme niche dominated only by specific genres that only the nerdiest of nerds care about.


A console is a crappy computer.
 
2012-01-31 05:27:28 AM
What the fark am I reading?
 
2012-01-31 05:29:13 AM
Confabulat: zedster: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: This article basically assumes the being gamer means having the most expensive of everything, a lot which most gamers either don't have or probably wouldn't want.

Also what gamer outside of the sim crowd uses a joystick? and a wireless mouse?

And what does this mean? Huh?


It means that flight simulators and such are the only games which use joystick control anymore, and they aren't very popular so joystick use is sparse among current hardcore gamers. Also that wireless mice typically tend to have lag issues which makes them unsuitable for twitch-based games, again, making them unsuitable for use by most current hardcore gamers.

/HTH
 
2012-01-31 05:35:32 AM
The true cost of being a car enthusiast.

4.bp.blogspot.com
$2.4million: Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

Running Tally $2.4million

$400: Leather Driving gloves

Running Tally $2,400,400.

God, it's expensive liking cars.
 
2012-01-31 05:42:14 AM
Leroy Jenkins disagrees.

The cost of real hard core gaming is chicken.
 
2012-01-31 06:00:36 AM
Confabulat: What is the thrill of buying a new game and having the newest graphics card, exactly? What do you get out of that?

I will say that certain games do benefit from Eyefinity, and you need at least a 6950 or so to get decent graphics when you're running 3 x1200 screens.

/That and BF3 at full AA is absolutely beautiful. I haven't done it myself, but I've seen pictures.
 
2012-01-31 06:03:17 AM
They forgot the cost of time wasted.
 
2012-01-31 06:32:27 AM
Hardy-r-r: They forgot the cost of time wasted.

Says the person surfing Fark...
 
2012-01-31 06:35:56 AM
Heh, I've never heard of a PC with more than one motherboard, but I'm sure I could get a Best Buy employee to point me towards one. Might actually try that if fate drags me there before they go bankrupt.
 
2012-01-31 06:36:13 AM
I enjoy how whenever someone douches up an article like this on the intertubes, they compare an x-box 360 in price to a high end gaming PC, as if they are totally the same and should cost exactly the same.

Sad truth is that you can buy a PC that will play PC games just as well as an x-box 360 can play a console game for nearly the same amount of money. And then of course, you can do your homework/web surfing/porn watching/whatever on the PC.
 
2012-01-31 06:38:38 AM
Saw the quote for Monster HDMI cables (SUPER FAST!) and clicked the little x. Nice try overblown figures. Nice try.
 
2012-01-31 06:47:36 AM
"Warren says hard-core gamers often soup up systems by adding motherboards, boosting RAM and optimizing graphics.
$800: Samsung SyncMaster 27-Inch 950 Series HDTV 3D Monitor Combo with Apps -- Amazon.com
$170: Logitech G19 Keyboard for Gaming -- Logitech"


What the farking god of farking fark.
How do you add motherboards? Why do you pick $800 monitor? Why are buying $170 Keyboards?

"Even so, Kill Screen's Warren says touchscreen technology and the app store make the iPhone 4S and the iPod Touch 64GB the best handheld gaming devices."

Real cost of being gamers... Handheld gaming devices sample being... Ipod Touch... Does not compute.
 
2012-01-31 07:10:15 AM
Masso: "Warren says hard-core gamers often soup up systems by adding motherboards, boosting RAM and optimizing graphics.
$800: Samsung SyncMaster 27-Inch 950 Series HDTV 3D Monitor Combo with Apps -- Amazon.com
$170: Logitech G19 Keyboard for Gaming -- Logitech"

What the farking god of farking fark.
How do you add motherboards? Why do you pick $800 monitor? Why are buying $170 Keyboards?

"Even so, Kill Screen's Warren says touchscreen technology and the app store make the iPhone 4S and the iPod Touch 64GB the best handheld gaming devices."

Real cost of being gamers... Handheld gaming devices sample being... Ipod Touch... Does not compute.


Let me give you the missing variable: No one at Bloomberg.com has ever actually played a video game. Make more sense now?
 
2012-01-31 07:15:39 AM
mamoru: Hell, I game on my MacBook Pro with a 512MB GeForce 9600M, which by most accounts is a pretty crappy card. Yet I've managed to comfortably play even very recent games, such as Saints Row the Third, Batman: Arkham City, etc. very comfortably and with them looking nice enough. Granted they'd look better on better hardware, but they are good enough.

Similar story. Over the past decade, the overlap between performance and mobility laptops has become larger and larger, with more options for people who want one rig to do it all.

Gaming enthusiasts no longer have to spring for a super-expensive computer with an unbearably garish outer shell "targeted" towards gamers. My 13" Acer notepad can play Skyrim on medium-high details just fine, and I like it that way.
 
2012-01-31 07:18:55 AM
Hardcore gamers don't by prefab machines, ergo, that slideshow is borked. GTFO with your brand name peddling BS, and take your case of Bawls too.
 
2012-01-31 07:19:30 AM
Holy mother of....

*buy

Time for sleep.
 
2012-01-31 07:33:40 AM
DeathByGeekSquad: Holy mother of....

*buy

Time for sleep.


Don't worry, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you missed the 'u' key.
 
2012-01-31 07:37:08 AM
Retarded shiatty slideshow subby.
 
2012-01-31 07:55:51 AM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: This article basically assumes the being gamer means having the most expensive of everything, a lot which most gamers either don't have or probably wouldn't want.

Or can't afford worth a dam because of being unemployed and being stuck in the ass-end of the planet where PC hardware is taxed for being a "Luxury item"
 
2012-01-31 07:59:43 AM
Iczer: "Adding motherboards"? I really hope they mean something more akin to switching out a slow/low-end board with a better one because I don't really recall any gaming computers running off more than one mobo...

Also, seriously? $600 for 30 games on Steam? I really hope they're running that information off of new games that were just released and were also 'purchased' for the 360/PS3 numbers as well, because I know for a big ass farking fact that you can get 30 games for well under $100 on Steam if you know what you're doing.

Lastly, a freaking premade computer to put in the tally? Ugh, well, if you want to waste money I guess...

/note, I'm not saying some premade systems aren't good, just normally you can buy the components for a lot cheaper


I don't know anybody that's willing to shell out mondo bucks for a high-end gaming computer. Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.
 
2012-01-31 08:08:37 AM
I just dropped 600 bucks on motherboard, RAM, CPU and video card for gaming.

Also, because my motherboard developed capacitor failure and stopped working.

So I get a kick.
 
2012-01-31 08:10:16 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com

Oh, yes, obligatory.
 
2012-01-31 08:11:13 AM
DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x433]

cartoon shows hardcore gamers using console controllers, cartoon is irrelevant.
 
2012-01-31 08:18:44 AM
Hardcore: you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
2012-01-31 08:19:53 AM
My laptop cost exactly $999 (with $200 off on sale) and it plays Skyrim in high detail settings at about 40 FPS. It's not exactly the most portable laptop in the world, but it's still portable enough that it serves its purpose as a dual-duty work and gaming machine while still being easily stowed out of sight in a cabinet in the living room.

Most people who play PC games are like that. "Not stupid", I mean.
 
2012-01-31 08:31:10 AM
FTFA: "$2,400: For the hard-core gamer, Comcast's Extreme 105 Internet service with download speeds of up to 105 mbps ($199 per month for one year in San Francisco). That's 35 times the median download speed in the nation, according to speedmatters.org -- Comcast"

So games require 105mbps of bandwidth, apparently. God help you if you're on last-century shiattastic 10-20mbps line.

WTF? Do these people know what a computer is or how it works?
 
2012-01-31 08:42:17 AM
Lando Lincoln: Iczer: "Adding motherboards"? I really hope they mean something more akin to switching out a slow/low-end board with a better one because I don't really recall any gaming computers running off more than one mobo...

Also, seriously? $600 for 30 games on Steam? I really hope they're running that information off of new games that were just released and were also 'purchased' for the 360/PS3 numbers as well, because I know for a big ass farking fact that you can get 30 games for well under $100 on Steam if you know what you're doing.

Lastly, a freaking premade computer to put in the tally? Ugh, well, if you want to waste money I guess...

/note, I'm not saying some premade systems aren't good, just normally you can buy the components for a lot cheaper

I don't know anybody that's willing to shell out mondo bucks for a high-end gaming computer. Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.


yeah, half of the fun is spec'ing out the parts, putting it together and having it be different.

buying a pre-fab gaming computer is like paying someone else to level up a character in a game.
 
2012-01-31 08:47:21 AM
Lando Lincoln: Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.

You don't save money by building your own. I've built all my own desktops since the mid-late 90s. At one point, it was cheaper to make it yourself. That ended about a decade ago. The benefit became getting exactly the components I want, and being able to buy specialty parts for silencing.
 
2012-01-31 08:47:53 AM
That $3000+ prefab pc on the list reminds me of the people that would brag about their HP and Samsung PC when I walked around the remnant of whatever that is left of PC section at Gamestop looking for bargain.

I can make whatever brands sell for half the price, dude.
 
2012-01-31 08:53:36 AM
Yeah... that was the most ridiculous "buy the most expensive thing we could find, but don't actually ask any real gamers" so-called-article that I've ever read.

RexTalionis: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 550x391]

Oh, yes, obligatory.


Ah yahtzee, always appropriate.
 
2012-01-31 08:57:48 AM
dimoko: Lando Lincoln: Iczer: "Adding motherboards"? I really hope they mean something more akin to switching out a slow/low-end board with a better one because I don't really recall any gaming computers running off more than one mobo...

Also, seriously? $600 for 30 games on Steam? I really hope they're running that information off of new games that were just released and were also 'purchased' for the 360/PS3 numbers as well, because I know for a big ass farking fact that you can get 30 games for well under $100 on Steam if you know what you're doing.

Lastly, a freaking premade computer to put in the tally? Ugh, well, if you want to waste money I guess...

/note, I'm not saying some premade systems aren't good, just normally you can buy the components for a lot cheaper

I don't know anybody that's willing to shell out mondo bucks for a high-end gaming computer. Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.

yeah, half of the fun is spec'ing out the parts, putting it together and having it be different.

buying a pre-fab gaming computer is like paying someone else to level up a character in a game.


My boss put it to me this way - building a computer from parts will take me at least 3 hours to put together. That's three hours of billable time that I lost, so altogether, the computer is costing at least a 90Lando Lincoln: I don't know anybody that's willing to shell out mondo bucks for a high-end gaming computer. Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.

I just upgraded my computer with identical specs to a computer a friend who is less tech-proficient was buying. I spent 600 dollars in identical parts. The friend spends about 850 dollars for the prebuilt system. Of course, if I factor in the case, hard drives and optical drives, which I already had, I would've spent just as much as he did, if not more.

The difference is that the prefab machines are relatively cheaper because the makers have bulk discounts and I don't. However, I see the machine as a labor of love, so I don't mind so much.
 
2012-01-31 09:04:58 AM
dimoko: Lando Lincoln: Iczer: "Adding motherboards"? I really hope they mean something more akin to switching out a slow/low-end board with a better one because I don't really recall any gaming computers running off more than one mobo...

Also, seriously? $600 for 30 games on Steam? I really hope they're running that information off of new games that were just released and were also 'purchased' for the 360/PS3 numbers as well, because I know for a big ass farking fact that you can get 30 games for well under $100 on Steam if you know what you're doing.

Lastly, a freaking premade computer to put in the tally? Ugh, well, if you want to waste money I guess...

/note, I'm not saying some premade systems aren't good, just normally you can buy the components for a lot cheaper

I don't know anybody that's willing to shell out mondo bucks for a high-end gaming computer. Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.

yeah, half of the fun is spec'ing out the parts, putting it together and having it be different.

buying a pre-fab gaming computer is like paying someone else to level up a character in a game.


Or, it is like having a life other than gaming. If I have some free time, I just want to play. I don't want to fark around for hours before I can even start.
 
2012-01-31 09:08:06 AM
Masso: That $3000+ prefab pc on the list reminds me of the people that would brag about their HP and Samsung PC when I walked around the remnant of whatever that is left of PC section at Gamestop looking for bargain.

I can make whatever brands sell for half the price, dude.


With components that are twice as reliable. Anytime I'm having a conversation with someone and the topic turns to computers, if they ask me what kind of computer I have and I answer Intel or AMD and they ask "oh, is that a Dell?" I know it is time to end the conversation.
 
2012-01-31 09:12:10 AM
Bullshiat article is bullshiat.

I've been building custom rigs for two decades. I build a new gaming machine for me every three years or so. Usually drop about 700-800 total.

When it comes down to it, it is less than $10 a month to get full PC versatility with performance that roofies pathetic little console systems.

I'll take it.
 
2012-01-31 09:13:45 AM
This is more like "how to be a gullible fool and buy a bunch of useless accessories that only work for 1, 2 games tops" guide.
 
2012-01-31 09:24:50 AM
jabbedxorz: This is more like "how to be a gullible fool and buy a bunch of useless accessories that only work for 1, 2 games tops" guide.

I don't understand why they feel you need things like 2 racing wheels, a guitar control (no one plays rockband anymore), two extra wireless controllers on top of the wireless controller they already spec'ed, or 2 headsets and a set of speakers (when a single headset would cover your needs). No too mention, 30 games on steam!? That's 2 1/2 games a month. I doubt many gamers feel that there are games coming out at a rate quick enough to warrant a purchasing spree of that kind.

I also just bought parts last night for a fairly ridiculous PC. If I had gone with a stupid high-end graphics card instead of on-board, and went to the overclockable versions of ram and mobo, I would've come in at less than half their price for a gaming PC.
 
2012-01-31 09:26:23 AM
Pc gaming is expensive, but not as expensive as that article makes it out to be. Depending on what parts you need, it's quite easy to blow over a grand on a decent rig.

Still, unless yo plan on playing a ton of pc games, it's cheaper all around to just buy a console and play that way.
 
2012-01-31 09:28:53 AM
Antimatter: Pc gaming is expensive, but not as expensive as that article makes it out to be. Depending on what parts you need, it's quite easy to blow over a grand on a decent rig.

Still, unless yo plan on playing a ton of pc games, it's cheaper all around to just buy a console and play that way.


The great thing about the PC is that, because it's a multipurpose tool, you'd be well justified to blow 600 or 700 bucks on a computer because it's so necessary for everything else you do. The extra 200 or 300 on top is merely a premium for gaming, and, in that respect, the cost is no greater than a console.
 
2012-01-31 09:29:46 AM
Nicholas Urfe: Lando Lincoln: Most gamers I know build their own and save about 75% in costs.

You don't save money by building your own. I've built all my own desktops since the mid-late 90s. At one point, it was cheaper to make it yourself. That ended about a decade ago. The benefit became getting exactly the components I want, and being able to buy specialty parts for silencing.


If you can't save money by building your own, you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-01-31 09:31:30 AM
RexTalionis: Antimatter: Pc gaming is expensive, but not as expensive as that article makes it out to be. Depending on what parts you need, it's quite easy to blow over a grand on a decent rig.

Still, unless yo plan on playing a ton of pc games, it's cheaper all around to just buy a console and play that way.

The great thing about the PC is that, because it's a multipurpose tool, you'd be well justified to blow 600 or 700 bucks on a computer because it's so necessary for everything else you do. The extra 200 or 300 on top is merely a premium for gaming, and, in that respect, the cost is no greater than a console.


Plus, these days, games are cheaper on the PC, usually $10-20 per game. That savings can make up the difference pretty quickly.
 
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