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2012-01-31 07:08:08 AM

quatchi: Karl Rove's Rule #1.

Take your biggest weakness and accuse your opponent of it first and in a louder voice.


Yeah, I think we got some of that in the Entertainment tab the other day, about Jessie Jackson being a terrible racist.
 
2012-01-31 07:12:52 AM

VRaptor117: How lame is the Politics tab? Take headlines straight from Reddit, then double the derp.


What's worse? I submitted this to Fark with a near-identical headline three days ago.

/Bitter
//Will get over it
 
2012-01-31 07:15:44 AM
I bet Mitt Romney doesn't even have a purple heart.
 
2012-01-31 07:19:02 AM
How can anyone think this guy is anything but a man of the people?

static6.businessinsider.com
 
2012-01-31 07:23:49 AM

stlbluez: So many farktards in this thread it's hard to count or decide who to respond to:)

Yes.. we can google :) good for y'all :) go ask mommy for a cookie.

Obviously Kerry's wealth was mentioned. Numerous times.
But it was nowhere near the cornerstone of the attacks against him that it's being made into for Mitt.
Inability to see and admit that = lying or retarded.


2 things here.

First, the attacks on Mittens are COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!

Second, what part of SendToDave's pithy "I'm more concerned that he'd want to grossly favor the wealthy, not that he, himself, is grossly wealthy." are you not getting?

Alphax: quatchi: Karl Rove's Rule #1.

Take your biggest weakness and accuse your opponent of it first and in a louder voice.

Yeah, I think we got some of that in the Entertainment tab the other day, about Jessie Jackson being a terrible racist.


And that is why they fail.
 
2012-01-31 07:24:51 AM

Kurmudgeon: [www.democraticunderground.com image 300x365]


Eight years later and I still want that woman punched in the face. I'm still flabbergasted that NOBODY on the GOP team said "Wait, do we really want to mock Purple Heart recipients?"
 
2012-01-31 07:27:32 AM

stlbluez: So many farktards in this thread it's hard to count or decide who to respond to:)

Yes.. we can google :) good for y'all :) go ask mommy for a cookie.

Obviously Kerry's wealth was mentioned. Numerous times.
But it was nowhere near the cornerstone of the attacks against him that it's being made into for Mitt.
Inability to see and admit that = lying or retarded.


Was Kerry saying he was middle class?

Was Kerry saying he knew what it was like to worry about getting a pink slip?

Was Kerry campaigning on raising taxes on the middle class while keeping them the same for folks like him (or lowering them for folks like him)?

Was Kerry pontificating about everyone having "skin in the game" while having very little (13.9% to be exact) skin in the game himself?

All that aside, Kerry was a horrible candidate and he was painted as an out-of-touch, super wealthy, elitist who couldn't relate to regular Americans. He was attacked for his military record. He was attacked for his and his wife's wealth. These were the cornerstones of the attacks made against him by the GOP. To deny that shows either, how uninformed you are, or how willfully ignorant you are.
 
2012-01-31 07:32:34 AM

spman: At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America, and in fact Republicans get chastised for having the nerve to bring it up as an issue.


Boy, you really do live in some weird alternate universe.

In THIS universe, Kerry was painted as a silver-spoon rich boy that married into even more money. And Democrats never said a damn thing about it when Republicans brought it up, because it wasn't even worth arguing over. There was much bigger things to argue about.

He also was painted as a richie rich boy that went into the service just to prove a point. He didn't really want to serve his country, he just wanted to show how bad things were in Vietnam. He got his Purple Heart for a minor injury and used that as leverage to paint soldiers in a bad light for all of the atrocities they supposedly committed in the "Winter Soldier" hearings.

Democrats jumped on THAT argument for the entire campaign. Because that was a reprehensible thing for Republicans to say. And it still is.
 
2012-01-31 07:32:34 AM

quatchi: First, the attacks on Mittens are COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!


Doesn't matter. Still the fault of the libs and the lib media. Stupid libs.

/this is what Republicans actually sound like
 
2012-01-31 07:32:57 AM

keylock71: stlbluez: So many farktards in this thread it's hard to count or decide who to respond to:)

Yes.. we can google :) good for y'all :) go ask mommy for a cookie.

Obviously Kerry's wealth was mentioned. Numerous times.
But it was nowhere near the cornerstone of the attacks against him that it's being made into for Mitt.
Inability to see and admit that = lying or retarded.

Was Kerry saying he was middle class?

Was Kerry saying he knew what it was like to worry about getting a pink slip?

Was Kerry campaigning on raising taxes on the middle class while keeping them the same for folks like him (or lowering them for folks like him)?

Was Kerry pontificating about everyone having "skin in the game" while having very little (13.9% to be exact) skin in the game himself?

All that aside, Kerry was a horrible candidate and he was painted as an out-of-touch, super wealthy, elitist who couldn't relate to regular Americans. He was attacked for his military record. He was attacked for his and his wife's wealth. These were the cornerstones of the attacks made against him by the GOP. To deny that shows either, how uninformed you are, or how willfully ignorant you are.


It's hard to believe that "Romney is just like John Kerry" is considered a good strategy by some Republicans.
 
2012-01-31 07:39:06 AM

Alphax: And why is the tax on investments so low? Because lobbyists blocked a bipartisan attempt to raise them, lobbyists paid by Bain Capitol.

Also, I heard that Romney is merely twice as wealthy as Gov. Rick Scott, er, Voldemort.


This!!!!
 
2012-01-31 07:39:19 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: keylock71: stlbluez: So many farktards in this thread it's hard to count or decide who to respond to:)

Yes.. we can google :) good for y'all :) go ask mommy for a cookie.

Obviously Kerry's wealth was mentioned. Numerous times.
But it was nowhere near the cornerstone of the attacks against him that it's being made into for Mitt.
Inability to see and admit that = lying or retarded.

Was Kerry saying he was middle class?

Was Kerry saying he knew what it was like to worry about getting a pink slip?

Was Kerry campaigning on raising taxes on the middle class while keeping them the same for folks like him (or lowering them for folks like him)?

Was Kerry pontificating about everyone having "skin in the game" while having very little (13.9% to be exact) skin in the game himself?

All that aside, Kerry was a horrible candidate and he was painted as an out-of-touch, super wealthy, elitist who couldn't relate to regular Americans. He was attacked for his military record. He was attacked for his and his wife's wealth. These were the cornerstones of the attacks made against him by the GOP. To deny that shows either, how uninformed you are, or how willfully ignorant you are.

It's hard to believe that "Romney is just like John Kerry" is considered a good strategy by some Republicans.


You know, honestly, I'm not surprised by any ridiculous thing the GOP and their pundits say these days... They sprinted off that cliff a long time ago. It's a party filled with nothing but mean-spirited, petty plutocrats, regressives, and religious fundamentalists.

This whole GOP primary has been nothing but one big embarrassment for the country and god help us if one of these assholes actually manages to win the White House.
 
2012-01-31 07:41:48 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Alphax: And why is the tax on investments so low? Because lobbyists blocked a bipartisan attempt to raise them, lobbyists paid by Bain Capitol.

Also, I heard that Romney is merely twice as wealthy as Gov. Rick Scott, er, Voldemort.

This!!!!


Is that why Obama just hired a Bain Capitol guy for his cabinet? Obama may not be as rich as Romney, but he sure does surround himself with Wall Street.
 
2012-01-31 07:42:48 AM
Kerry served.
Romney dodged.

Kerry wanted to raise his own taxes.
Romney wants to raise taxes on the poor.

I could go on but that really ought to be enough.
 
2012-01-31 07:43:41 AM

Bazinga In My Pants: VRaptor117: How lame is the Politics tab? Take headlines straight from Reddit, then double the derp and then have it posted on fark days later.

Seriously, FARK.COM.... you may want to overhaul your business model.


Here's what you guys should do:

1) Go over to Reddit
2) Stay there
3) Don't come back here

Nobody cares if Reddit did it first. Most of us aren't losers that need to go to more than one Fark-like place.
 
2012-01-31 07:59:59 AM
Also:
Kerry served, then protested against the war.
Romney dodged, then protested FOR the war.
 
2012-01-31 08:00:36 AM

I_C_Weener: Waxing_Chewbacca: Alphax: And why is the tax on investments so low? Because lobbyists blocked a bipartisan attempt to raise them, lobbyists paid by Bain Capitol.

Also, I heard that Romney is merely twice as wealthy as Gov. Rick Scott, er, Voldemort.

This!!!!

Is that why Obama just hired a Bain Capitol guy for his cabinet?

You mean the guy that was confirmed by the Senate over 2.5 years ago? That guy?

Obama may not be as rich as Romney, but he sure does surround himself with Wall Street.
As many Dems would agree... What's your point?
 
2012-01-31 08:04:36 AM

Crunch61: As many Dems would agree... What's your point?


That complaining about the influence of money or business acumen or financial knowledge is pointless when the Democrat candidate has wrapped himself in the same despite promises to the contrary.

Perhaps the "my team is full of saints" attitude blinds you to it, but in politics, everyone is a hypocrite. At least Romney's claim as man of the people isn't the same as Obama villifying Wall Street while handing them bailout after bailout, and letting their executives dictate his policy.
 
2012-01-31 08:08:56 AM
NEWSFLASH: Politicians are Rich
 
2012-01-31 08:10:43 AM

spman: John Kerry is even richer that Romney may or may not be, and that's not even counting his billionaire wife, but I don't remember ever hearing a single word about that in 2004.


From you statement I can only assume you spent 2004 in a cave. I remember his money being a big deal, particularly his wife's money.
 
2012-01-31 08:11:34 AM

spman: Here's where the difference lies however. When discussing Kerry's wealth, it's always presented as being nothing more than a matter of fact. All these articles paint Kerry as a man who came from humble beginnings and still remained humble in spite of his families wealth. At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America, and in fact Republicans get chastised for having the nerve to bring it up as an issue.

Now contrast how Romney is being presented by the mainstream media, which is the exact opposite. Romney is super wealthy and thus has no idea how average Americans live, he doesn't pay his fiar share of taxes, and part of the 1% that's shaking down America for every last penny. Romeny's wealth is played up as being more than just a matter of fact, it's presented as a core tenet of his being. With Kerry it was just, yeah, he's rich, so what?


Did Kerry complain about high taxes on the wealthy?
Did Kerry complain that the poor "paid no taxes"? (ignoring the fact that they spend a ton on welfare healthcare)
Did Kerry complain that the "poor are lazy and are poor by their own damn fault?"
Did Kerry act like his wealth was a result of his success and not something he was born into? (or in Kerry's case, married into . . . the golddigger)
 
2012-01-31 08:12:30 AM

spman: Here's where the difference lies however. When discussing Kerry's wealth, it's always presented as being nothing more than a matter of fact. All these articles paint Kerry as a man who came from humble beginnings and still remained humble in spite of his families wealth. At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America, and in fact Republicans get chastised for having the nerve to bring it up as an issue.

Now contrast how Romney is being presented by the mainstream media, which is the exact opposite. Romney is super wealthy and thus has no idea how average Americans live, he doesn't pay his fiar share of taxes, and part of the 1% that's shaking down America for every last penny. Romeny's wealth is played up as being more than just a matter of fact, it's presented as a core tenet of his being. With Kerry it was just, yeah, he's rich, so what?



2.bp.blogspot.com
Are you still trying to win!?!?!
I think that's the saddest thing I've ever heard.

 
2012-01-31 08:14:58 AM

heinekenftw: Did Kerry complain about high taxes on the wealthy?
Did Kerry complain that the poor "paid no taxes"? (ignoring the fact that they spend a ton on welfare healthcare)
Did Kerry complain that the "poor are lazy and are poor by their own damn fault?"
Did Kerry act like his wealth was a result of his success and not something he was born into? (or in Kerry's case, married into . . . the golddigger)


Did Kerry take advantage of tax shelters? Did Kerry park his yacht across the state lines to avoid taxes?

Did Mitt Romney show up at the conventions and say, "Reporting for duty"?
 
2012-01-31 08:17:53 AM

Fair_Poopsmith: I'm pretty goddamn liberal, and if Romney had four times his fortune, and unless it can be shown to have been obtained illegally, it wouldn't have a thing to do with why he's unfit for the presidency.

The "Romney is rich" argument is equivalent to the "Obama is an elitist" argument. farking stop it. We've got buckets of attacks that actually have some substance.


I have nothing against Romney being rich.

I have something against Romney either acting like he's "a mainstream American," that he complains about high taxes on his person when clearly he can afford a high tax rate without a change to his exorbitant quality of life.

It's not that he has wealth that pisses me off. It's his attitude with his wealth.
 
2012-01-31 08:18:29 AM

spman: Here's where the difference lies however. When discussing Kerry's wealth, it's always presented as being nothing more than a matter of fact. All these articles paint Kerry as a man who came from humble beginnings and still remained humble in spite of his families wealth. At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America, and in fact Republicans get chastised for having the nerve to bring it up as an issue.

Now contrast how Romney is being presented by the mainstream media, which is the exact opposite. Romney is super wealthy and thus has no idea how average Americans live, he doesn't pay his fiar share of taxes, and part of the 1% that's shaking down America for every last penny. Romeny's wealth is played up as being more than just a matter of fact, it's presented as a core tenet of his being. With Kerry it was just, yeah, he's rich, so what?


STFU, dude.
 
2012-01-31 08:19:12 AM
Mitt is The Face of the 1%.
 
2012-01-31 08:20:05 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: It's hard to believe that "Romney is just like John Kerry" is considered a good strategy by some Republicans.


Well some of them seem to think "Obama is just like Bush" is a good criticism, so I'm not surprised.
 
2012-01-31 08:21:23 AM

I_C_Weener: That complaining about the influence of money or business acumen or financial knowledge is pointless when the Democrat candidate has wrapped himself in the same despite promises to the contrary.


BSABSVR?
 
2012-01-31 08:21:56 AM
There's also the 'how did he become rich' part. Born into it, and making more money by ruining peoples lives.
 
2012-01-31 08:24:05 AM

spman: Isn't it special how the media makes such a big deal about Romney and how much money he has? John Kerry is even richer that Romney may or may not be, and that's not even counting his billionaire wife, but I don't remember ever hearing a single word about that in 2004.


Yeah the press sure left Kerry alone.

Do you fools have no memory capacity or is it plain stupidity?
 
2012-01-31 08:24:33 AM
I_C_Weener:

Did Mitt Romney show up at the conventions and say, "Reporting for duty"?

Why would he do that? Mitt never served. In fact, he avoided service and then protested for the war.

Kerry, however, did serve... And the super-patriotic Republicans criticized and ridiculed him for it.
 
2012-01-31 08:24:36 AM
The number of votes you receive should be scaled inversely to the amount spent on your behalf in the election.
 
2012-01-31 08:24:50 AM
What another "a man of the people" Democrat with humble beginnings may look like.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-31 08:26:22 AM
So?
 
2012-01-31 08:29:25 AM

spman: Here's where the difference lies however. When discussing Kerry's wealth, it's always presented as being nothing more than a matter of fact. All these articles paint Kerry as a man who came from humble beginnings and still remained humble in spite of his families wealth. At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America, and in fact Republicans get chastised for having the nerve to bring it up as an issue.


I distinctly remember lots of press about a picture of John Kerry wind surfing while taking a break from campaigning, and constantly being reminded how out of touch he was with the common folk for this, given that Bush's hobby was clearing brush from the ranch that he bought before his election to look common.

In fact, that picture caused such an uproar, that the next Kerry "I'm taking a break" picture had him hunting. At which point he was then chastised because his camouflage clothing was "too new" and "just purchased" and therefore out of touch with the common folk, given that Bush's hobby was clearing brush from the ranch that he bought before his election to look common.

Funnily enough, a simply search for things brings up a hunting things, with, of all people. Mitt Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl2UkDo0fng

So yeah, keep working on those talking points. Maybe you'll find one that isn't a lie.
 
2012-01-31 08:31:55 AM
The 'clearing brush' thing made no sense to me. Who would choose to clear brush? Wouldn't anyone with a bit of spare change pay someone else to do that for them?
 
2012-01-31 08:36:00 AM

spman: Here's where the difference lies however. When discussing Kerry's wealth, it's always presented as being nothing more than a matter of fact. All these articles paint Kerry as a man who came from humble beginnings and still remained humble in spite of his families wealth. At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America, and in fact Republicans get chastised for having the nerve to bring it up as an issue.

Now contrast how Romney is being presented by the mainstream media, which is the exact opposite. Romney is super wealthy and thus has no idea how average Americans live, he doesn't pay his fiar share of taxes, and part of the 1% that's shaking down America for every last penny. Romeny's wealth is played up as being more than just a matter of fact, it's presented as a core tenet of his being. With Kerry it was just, yeah, he's rich, so what?


yeah well Kerry wasn't out trying to lower his own taxes on the backs of the poor and middle class. Funny thing about class warfare. The rich are fighting it too.

dailyagenda.org
 
2012-01-31 08:36:18 AM

Alphax: The 'clearing brush' thing made no sense to me. Who would choose to clear brush? Wouldn't anyone with a bit of spare change pay someone else to do that for them?


Those in the target demographic for brush-clearing-photo-ops are not known for their critical thinking skills.
 
2012-01-31 08:37:46 AM
Can we just admit that no one running for President (Democrat or Republican) is in touch with the "Average" American.
 
2012-01-31 08:39:18 AM

Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: What another "a man of the people" Democrat with humble beginnings may look like.

[i.imgur.com image 500x393]


Both sides support aristocracy! Vote Republican!

At least they're honest about it!
 
2012-01-31 08:40:25 AM

Alphax: The 'clearing brush' thing made no sense to me. Who would choose to clear brush? Wouldn't anyone with a bit of spare change pay someone else to do that for them?


it was all about projecting his common man image. the truck. the ranch. the brush clearing. they wanted to make him appear like he wasn't an east coast ivy league douchebag.
 
2012-01-31 08:40:29 AM

TSmoker: Can we just admit that no one running for President (Democrat or Republican) is in touch with the "Average" American.


no. Because that would ignore policy.
 
2012-01-31 08:42:36 AM
too bad money can't buy you charisma. or integrity.
 
2012-01-31 08:43:37 AM

Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: What another "a man of the people" Democrat with humble beginnings may look like.

[i.imgur.com image 500x393]


funny I don't remember him trying to present himself as such. or working to lower his own taxes while raising them on the poor.
 
2012-01-31 08:44:22 AM
It doesn't matter how rich Romney is, his "I'm the common man" schtick is patronizing and farking rude as hell.
 
2012-01-31 08:47:11 AM

I_C_Weener: heinekenftw: Did Kerry complain about high taxes on the wealthy?
Did Kerry complain that the poor "paid no taxes"? (ignoring the fact that they spend a ton on welfare healthcare)
Did Kerry complain that the "poor are lazy and are poor by their own damn fault?"
Did Kerry act like his wealth was a result of his success and not something he was born into? (or in Kerry's case, married into . . . the golddigger)

Did Kerry take advantage of tax shelters? Did Kerry park his yacht across the state lines to avoid taxes?

Did Mitt Romney show up at the conventions and say, "Reporting for duty"?


I was not trying to defend Kerry as some sort of "saint." Kerry may have abused his wealth but he didn't run on a platform where he pretended he was "middle class" while trying to pass off his tax burden to the middle class and off the poor oppressed rich.
 
2012-01-31 08:48:13 AM

TSmoker: Can we just admit that no one running for President (Democrat or Republican) is in touch with the "Average" American.


It's a slippery-slope. The only way for a President or Presidential candidate to be in touch with the "Average" American is to BE an average american. The so-often-heard-of guy (or gal) who "is like your neighbor," who you can "sit down and have a beer with."

The problem arises when people realize that your neighbor, the guy you sit down and have a beer with, is an idiot, and you wouldn't dare vote for him for any elected office, let alone President, unless he (or she) promised you a free Handicapped Parking pass to get elected.
 
2012-01-31 08:48:18 AM

Jake Havechek: It doesn't matter how rich Romney is, his "I'm the common man" schtick is patronizing and farking rude as hell.


I'm waiting on his flannel shirt with the sleeves rolled up while driving a pickup truck ads to drop during the general election.
 
2012-01-31 08:49:09 AM

spman: At no point is Kerry painted as a rich snob out of touch with mainstream America


wat?
 
2012-01-31 08:51:53 AM
Democrat or Republican, if the middle class wants the country to move in a direction that benefits the majority instead of just the wealthiest few, we need to get money out ofpolitics. We need to end lobbying, and we need to stop voting for rich people. Rich people are going to enact policy that helps themselves and their rich friends.

The difference between Kerry and Romney is that the Occupy movement has brought wealth disparity to the forefront, and made it an issue.
 
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