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hitlersbrain
2012-01-31 06:10:43 AM
Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Maybe what's holding Alaska back is being a bunch of snowbound, backwoods retards that vote for losers like Sarah Palin?
KrispyKritter
2012-01-31 06:17:03 AM
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LordJiro
2012-01-31 06:19:52 AM
hitlersbrain
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Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Maybe what's holding Alaska back is being a bunch of snowbound, backwoods retards that vote for losers like Sarah Palin?
You object to the most noble goal of all? SOCIALIST!!111
largedon
2012-01-31 06:26:08 AM
Note to journalist, it's ANWR not AWNR. They got it right the first time then proceeded to mess it up for the rest of the article.
/considering its a Mother Nature Network article, the writer was probably stoned
crab66
2012-01-31 06:26:39 AM
You are part of this country whether you brain damaged hicks like it or not. Your geographic location means farkall.
Why is it always Republicans/Conservatives who claim to be the most patriotic lovers of America and yet whenever something happens that they don't like they are the first to go full retard and want to burn it down.
Happy Hours
2012-01-31 06:28:35 AM
hitlersbrain
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Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2012-01-31 06:33:30 AM
Let the liberal angst begin. BRB, getting some popcorn.
LordJiro
2012-01-31 06:33:32 AM
crab66
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You are part of this country whether you brain damaged hicks like it or not. Your geographic location means farkall.
Why is it always Republicans/Conservatives who claim to be the most patriotic lovers of America and yet whenever something happens that they don't like they are the first to go full retard and want to burn it down.
States' Rights™ trumps everything.
Republicans want all the benefits of living in the United States (Strong military, other states that pay more in taxes than they take in so red states can leech) without the responsibilities and limitations (Taxes (on *them*), the federal government telling them they can't shiat all over poor people/minorities/the environment/non-Christians).
jaytkay
2012-01-31 06:34:37 AM
Look how cute, parasites at or near the top of every measure of Federal spending per capita are complaining about their burden.
Just like every other Red State.
LordJiro
2012-01-31 06:35:11 AM
Happy Hours
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hitlersbrain: Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
You don't understand how oil is sold, do you?
tomcat1346
2012-01-31 06:38:22 AM
This is the Mudflats take on this: http://www.themudflats.net/2012/01/25/a-fools-errand-brought-to-you-by -rep-kyle-johansen/
brianbankerus
2012-01-31 06:54:04 AM
Man Alaskans are dumb. I've never even heard of one with an IQ higher than 85, and I'm pretty sure his name was Calvin or Wrangler or something.
/Levi, that's what it was. Dummer'n dirt, but smarter'n any of his fellow frozen-staters.
//Bring the hate, I don't care.
Happy Hours
2012-01-31 06:57:15 AM
LordJiro
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Happy Hours: hitlersbrain: Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
You don't understand how oil is sold, do you?
You don't understand how markets work, do you?
jmr61
2012-01-31 06:57:18 AM
Let's hope this legislation passes and becomes effective soon.
Gunny Walker
2012-01-31 07:00:50 AM
Happy Hours
:
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and ...
We use 20 million barrels a day.
(new window)
20x365=7,300
7.3 Billion barrels a year.
So, this amazingly vast reserve is only worth 3 to 4 months?
tommyl66
2012-01-31 07:06:08 AM
Gunny Walker
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Happy Hours: Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and ...
We use 20 million barrels a day. (new window)
20x365=7,300
7.3 Billion barrels a year.
So, this amazingly vast reserve is only worth 3 to 4 months?
If those liberal weenie-brained scientists had done their jobs we'd be driving cars that got a thousand miles to the gallon so we'd only use like 3 gallons a year as a nation so that 2 billion barrels would last until forever, but no, they're busy killing babies and marrying their gay lovers so in order to keep America running we need that oil and gas!
/Drill, babies, drill
Satanic_Hamster
2012-01-31 07:11:52 AM
Dear Alaskan senators:
ANWAR is federally controller land. It's been that way for decades. Central Park isn't federally controlled. No one is proposing taking away land from Alaska. This is a poor example.
And you're stupid and you make your ideas look stupid.
I'm actually pro-drilling in ANWAR, it's just a bloody shame that most of the proponents of it are ignorant douchebags.
david_gaithersburg
2012-01-31 07:18:26 AM
hitlersbrain
:
Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Maybe what's holding Alaska back is being a bunch of snowbound, backwoods retards that vote for losers like Sarah Palin?
.
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Some days on Fark its as if the uneducated bigotry of the 1950's has been reborn.
Smoking GNU
2012-01-31 07:44:43 AM
I don't see how central park can be classified as a "Wilderness", since it's completely man-made (the original flora/habitat of manhattan island being closer to sparse scrub-land).
MartinD-35
2012-01-31 07:46:49 AM
We should sell Alaska to the Chinese; pay off our national debt and everyone gets a check for $100,000.
bobsuncle
2012-01-31 07:53:26 AM
Political satire? Well, they did bring us Sarah from Wassilla. You bettcha!
downtownkid
2012-01-31 07:57:45 AM
Great idea. Using similar logic, I'm going to protest my state income taxes by putting a lien on the White House.
BitwiseShift
2012-01-31 08:18:11 AM
Excellent. Just divert the funds from Alaska to Manhattan that would be the equivalent by population. Ron Paul sez you don't even need to get the Federales involved -- just a little money between friends.
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2012-01-31 08:25:18 AM
Ok, back.
The Voice of Doom
2012-01-31 08:34:11 AM
Alright, no drilling for oil in Central Park.
PC LOAD LETTER
2012-01-31 08:34:18 AM
You can't develop in Central Park anyway, numbnuts. Alaskan Republicans are farking retards.
JackalRabbit
2012-01-31 08:36:14 AM
MartinD-35
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We should sell Alaska to the Chinese; pay off
maybe half
our national debt and
no
one gets a check for $100,000.
ftfy - china not stupid. china fiscally responsible.
/ear of dragon
//it like corn, only better
ComicBookGuy
2012-01-31 08:38:35 AM
How much federal money does Alaska get for ever dollar it sends to Washington, again?
ComicBookGuy
2012-01-31 08:39:29 AM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
Let the liberal
angst
begin. BRB, getting some popcorn.
inigomontoya.jpg
farkingatwork
2012-01-31 08:43:05 AM
Happy Hours
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hitlersbrain: Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
No, it actually won't - because this is the wrong focus.
Considering we're already net exporters of oil, the focus is away from being reliant on oil in any fashion and moving to electric based cars. This is only the beginning right now, and cities are already slowly rolling out charging stations + more and more cars are slowly being rolled out that are partially or entirely battery powered. Gov't has set some hard deadlines on when that stuff needs to be mainstream, and they're not far off - thus you've seen manufacturers start to create more hybrids, more cars etc. Granted, battery only is worthless for long drives but that's it's own separate issue.
ComicBookGuy
2012-01-31 08:43:44 AM
Happy Hours:
hitlersbrain: Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
Oh, you!! Throwing around number without context!!
You know, for most people, a 2000 calorie meal is a huge, gut busting feast. For you, it's probably a light snack. Now apply that to the virtual petrofatass of the U.S.A.
doremifaq
2012-01-31 08:44:15 AM
I could'a supported this if they'd thought of it 300 years ago. Now, it just makes them look really slow.
Jake Havechek
2012-01-31 08:48:40 AM
What if Putin rears his head and enters our airspace?
ChuDogg
2012-01-31 08:49:15 AM
Gunny Walker
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Happy Hours: Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and ...
We use 20 million barrels a day. (new window)
20x365=7,300
7.3 Billion barrels a year.
So, this amazingly vast reserve is only worth 3 to 4 months?
Man.. ONLY! Sheesh. Lets just keep buying from the Saudis instead.
Headso
2012-01-31 08:49:18 AM
True the amount of oil in ANWR is not much relative to our consumption and for those of us that don't live there it is meaningless. But if the people in Alaska think drilling there is a good idea then maybe some kind of compromise should be met to allow it.
chaddsfarkprefect
2012-01-31 08:49:29 AM
There's nothing wrong with enjoying the fruits of nature. You should try it sometime.
DjangoStonereaver
2012-01-31 08:49:38 AM
You know who else was supportive of ANWR drilling?
Eatlemming
2012-01-31 08:53:20 AM
MartinD-35
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We should sell Alaska to the Chinese; pay off our national debt and everyone gets a check for $100,000.
This is a special kind of stupid, even if it was tongue and cheek.
tommyl66
2012-01-31 08:59:02 AM
Jake Havechek
:
What if Putin rears his head and enters our airspace?
Then that is one enormous noggin...
jso2897
2012-01-31 09:00:02 AM
Happy Hours
:
hitlersbrain: Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
How will drilling that oil and gas and selling it to the Chinese help our energy problems? Or are you under the impression that our good, patriotic, "American" oil companies plan to do this for the nation's benefit? And while those numbers may sound big to you - they aren't - even if they recovered anything like they are projecting, which they won't.
Nobody wants this but oil companies and exceedingly naive members of the public.
jso2897
2012-01-31 09:05:38 AM
Headso
:
True the amount of oil in ANWR is not much relative to our consumption and for those of us that don't live there it is meaningless. But if the people in Alaska think drilling there is a good idea then maybe some kind of compromise should be met to allow it.
Right. And the people who live around Yosemite should be allowed to take a vote and sell it to Disney to make a theme park out of. Right.
After all, THEY live there, and we don't!
ThrobblefootSpectre
2012-01-31 09:06:30 AM
Satanic_Hamster
:
Dear Alaskan senators:
ANWAR is federally controller land. It's been that way for decades. Central Park isn't federally controlled. No one is proposing taking away land from Alaska. This is a poor example.
This.
Satanic_Hamster
:
I'm actually pro-drilling in ANWAR, it's just a bloody shame that most of the proponents of it are ignorant douchebags.
I'm against drilling there for the time being. I'm more of the mindset of keeping it as a naturally contained strategic oil reserve for emergencies. Burn the oil exported by the rest of the world, until we can figure out a better alternative.
LineNoise
2012-01-31 09:11:39 AM
farkingatwork
:
Happy Hours: hitlersbrain: Drilling for little puddles of oil is stupid and not worth the environmental risk. It won't help the economy or employ many people or reduce our dependence on foreign oil. All it will do is make a few rich people richer.
Yeah, 2 BILLION barrels of oil and 12 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas won't help reduce our dependency on foreign oil and gas at all. Those are USGS figures.
No, it actually won't - because this is the wrong focus.
Considering we're already net exporters of oil, the focus is away from being reliant on oil in any fashion and moving to electric based cars. This is only the beginning right now, and cities are already slowly rolling out charging stations + more and more cars are slowly being rolled out that are partially or entirely battery powered. Gov't has set some hard deadlines on when that stuff needs to be mainstream, and they're not far off - thus you've seen manufacturers start to create more hybrids, more cars etc. Granted, battery only is worthless for long drives but that's it's own separate issue.
And once we are all driving in electric cars, we will just be dependent on someone else for the rare earth stuff needed to make all of those batteries, and to dispose of them, and for whatever powers our power plants to handle all that increased demand.
Not that electric\hybrid is a bad thing, but it is just a stop gap, and it is debatable if we need that stop gap right now, or it will cover us until something better comes along, which is why it is silly to put all of your eggs in that basket right now.
Headso
2012-01-31 09:12:05 AM
jso2897
:
Headso: True the amount of oil in ANWR is not much relative to our consumption and for those of us that don't live there it is meaningless. But if the people in Alaska think drilling there is a good idea then maybe some kind of compromise should be met to allow it.
Right. And the people who live around Yosemite should be allowed to take a vote and sell it to Disney to make a theme park out of. Right.
After all, THEY live there, and we don't!
no, it'd be more like if they allowed all the spilled oil from atv snow mobile riding and 4x4ing to pollute the place for some profit... oh wait. that's different because in that case no residents actually get paid where in the case of ANWR revenue would be added to the permanent fund.
jso2897
2012-01-31 09:20:00 AM
Headso
:
jso2897: Headso: True the amount of oil in ANWR is not much relative to our consumption and for those of us that don't live there it is meaningless. But if the people in Alaska think drilling there is a good idea then maybe some kind of compromise should be met to allow it.
Right. And the people who live around Yosemite should be allowed to take a vote and sell it to Disney to make a theme park out of. Right.
After all, THEY live there, and we don't!
no, it'd be more like if they allowed all the spilled oil from atv snow mobile riding and 4x4ing to pollute the place for some profit... oh wait. that's different because in that case no residents actually get paid where in the case of ANWR revenue would be added to the permanent fund.
My point.....Whoooooosh!
Your head.
Bmorrison
2012-01-31 09:21:30 AM
brianbankerus
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Man Alaskans are dumb. I've never even heard of one with an IQ higher than 85, and I'm pretty sure his name was Calvin or Wrangler or something.
/Levi, that's what it was. Dummer'n dirt, but smarter'n any of his fellow frozen-staters.
//Bring the hate, I don't care.
This,
MartinD-35
2012-01-31 09:24:18 AM
JackalRabbit
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MartinD-35: We should sell Alaska to the Chinese; pay off maybe half our national debt and no one gets a check for $100,000.
ftfy - china not stupid. china fiscally responsible.
/ear of dragon
//it like corn, only better
LOL. I always read the profiles of folks who respond to my musings. (Mine is non-existent because nobody would believe it.) You will be pleased to know I am married to the reincarnation of Annie Oakley. Could we instead sell Texas to the Mexican cartels? But then, maybe China would buy Alaska. After all, they would get a ton of natural resources which they need, land to send their excess peoples to, and it would certainly help in their encirclement of Russia.
KimNorth
2012-01-31 09:25:21 AM
ComicBookGuy
:
How much federal money does Alaska get for ever dollar it sends to Washington, again?
I think because no one but the tough would want to live there everyone who does is given a yearly stipend.
The concept is for the U.S. to keep control of Alaska we need to live/occupy it, so Russia or whoever does not get any ideas and so we are there to keep some resemblance of order.
So really they are doing us a favor.
ThrobblefootSpectre
2012-01-31 09:26:55 AM
farkingatwork
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Considering we're already net exporters of oil,
Subtle but perhaps important clarification - the U.S. is a net exporter of refined petroleum fuels, not crude oil. We have more, and far more sophisticated, refineries than most of the world. We still consume more oil products than we produce domestically.
MartinD-35
2012-01-31 09:28:10 AM
Eatlemming
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MartinD-35: We should sell Alaska to the Chinese; pay off our national debt and everyone gets a check for $100,000.
This is a special kind of stupid, even if it was tongue and cheek.
You failed 8th grade English, didn't you - just admit it.
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