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(NPR) Obvious "Could a club drug offer almost immediate relief from depression?" Um...isn't that the whole point of taking it?   (npr.org) divider line 45
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2012-01-30 06:24:01 PM
Hey! I got a couple felonies for that drug! Best thing that ever happened to me.
 
2012-01-30 07:21:29 PM
Very interesting.
 
2012-01-30 07:32:03 PM
I don't care if LSD helps. I don't care if THC helps.
I don't care if inhaling cat pee helps.
If it helps, it helps.
If it keeps a sufferer of anything from suffering, FARK the law.
Change the law and help.

/you're not helping FDA, DEA, and all you bat shiat crazy loons running the country.
//and all you bat shiat crazy loons running for office.
///What ever works and allows someone to have a happy life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, then do it.
 
2012-01-30 08:06:56 PM
How much $?
 
2012-01-30 08:59:36 PM
Wouldn't that be addictive, pretty much by definition?
 
2012-01-30 09:42:57 PM
But what about the K-Hole?
 
2012-01-30 09:50:02 PM
i don't know. i saw a very convincing sequel to the movie "bad boys" where a girl ODs on MDMA and they totally just throw her in a dumpster behind the club. and then i think martin lawrence had to crawl around with rats. don't do drugs.
 
2012-01-30 10:22:52 PM
Unimpressed:
i.imgur.com

/horse tranquilizers?
//no, not horse tranquilizers
 
2012-01-30 11:04:53 PM
This About That: Wouldn't that be addictive, pretty much by definition?

I've known lots of people in my time who LOVE "Special K", but I've never known anyone who was addicted to it. Just because people use it recreationally doesn't mean it's addictive.

/it's not a farking opiate...
 
zez
2012-01-31 12:07:18 AM
Special K keeps the chills away in your broken basement room
Staring at the walls, sharing your score with no one.

And you don't dance to techno anymore
I don't see you under the strobe light on the dancefloor
It's been a while since I saw your ultraviolet smile
You don't dance to techno anymore
 
2012-01-31 12:07:51 AM
I hope it's validated as an effective anti-depressant. A fast-acting, immediate solution would be fantastic to have; it's like torture waiting for the two or three weeks required for the onset of SSRI's or SSNRI's. Even when it kicks in, there's no guarantee it'll work; you may need to adjust the dosage and wait again, or you may need a new medication, or combination of medications. Of course, I've heard the same story about any number of other drugs used off-label, so I'm not too enthusiastic, but hope springs eternal.
 
2012-01-31 12:17:11 AM
www.somethingpositive.net
 
2012-01-31 12:21:55 AM
i291.photobucket.com

i291.photobucket.com

i291.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-31 12:25:02 AM
vudukungfu: I don't care if LSD helps. I don't care if THC helps.
I don't care if inhaling cat pee helps.

i287.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-31 12:36:57 AM
E?

*clicks link*

Ketamine? Really??
 
2012-01-31 12:37:24 AM
Call it. Heavy Metal.
 
2012-01-31 12:58:05 AM
Disassociatives are for professionals only.

E-tards and pill sniffers need not apply.

// has it been ten years already? shiat,
 
2012-01-31 01:22:01 AM
vudukungfu: I don't care if inhaling cat pee helps.

userserve-ak.last.fm

dahmers love zombie: /horse tranquilizers?
//no, not horse tranquilizers


I'm not taking that! It's made from monkey-cum!

/actually, it's good to see that society is at least slowly coming around to these other possibilities
 
2012-01-31 01:29:59 AM
I never wanted to fark with my brain chemistry; until my brain chemistry farked with me.
 
2012-01-31 01:51:06 AM
THC works wonderfully and immediately with very few side effects. The problem is you have to keep take it somewhat regularly. If you stop suddenly and completely, depression can come back stronger. That's one reason why it's illegal, for your own safety.

Prescription meds, on the other hand, have tons of farked-up side effects, take weeks or longer to build up in your system enough to work, and can seriously mess with your head or, in rare cases, kill you if you go cold turkey. That's why they're a gigantic and ever-growing industry. Because fark you, we're making money.
 
2012-01-31 03:24:01 AM
To study how ketamine might work, Duman turned to rats. The first image below shows the neuron of a rat that has received no ketamine treatment. The small bumps and spots on the side of the neuron are budding connections between neurons.
media.npr.org
Just hours after giving the rats doses of ketamine, Duman saw a dramatic increase in the number of new connections between brain cells. This increase in neuronal connectivity is thought to relieve depression.

media.npr.org

So, why aren't we giving this to kids and sitting them down with educational software (&/or lettin 'em loose in gym class)?
 
2012-01-31 04:01:24 AM
and X is being used to treat PTSD

brave new world
 
2012-01-31 06:29:42 AM
This About That: Wouldn't that be addictive, pretty much by definition?

Actually, it would be entirely non addictive, precisely by definition.

I had taken K every weekend for 4-5 years before stopping due to moving to an area that had no supply. There was no cold turkey, no withdrawal symptoms and no psychological dependency issues. That was 9 years ago and, whilst I wouldn't mind taking it again, I've no urge to go searching for a source. If I'd tried that with coke, heroin or even weed, and I'm sure there would be a totally different scenario.

I went through a phase of mixing the powdered form 50:50 with coke, a mixture known as CK1. You get the disassociation trip effect, but the coke keeps your consciousness from entirely disappearing into the "k-hole"

For anyone experiencing depression, I'd recommend getting professional help first.

For anyone bored with MDMA and feel the want to explore your inner mind, I'd recommend CK1, but only if you've dabbled in other hallucinogens like salvia, shrooms, lsd, etc.

K is pretty intense and is unlike anything I have ever done before. Fun once you get the hang of it, a bit scary the first time, though.

It's funny, cos K is exactly how I imagined all "DRUGS ARE BAD" drugs to be like, due to the anti-"DRUGS" posters and PSA's of my childhood.

It was precisely as they'd advertised, and gave me the 'hit' that helped me recreate my childhood fantasies of what it was like to be the drooling mess on the floor, just like the posters showed!!

/ex K-holer
//had addictions, but NEVER to K
 
2012-01-31 06:36:11 AM
zez: Special K keeps the chills away in your broken basement room
Staring at the walls, sharing your score with no one.

And you don't dance to techno anymore
I don't see you under the strobe light on the dancefloor
It's been a while since I saw your ultraviolet smile
You don't dance to techno anymore


You just made my day.
 
2012-01-31 07:35:20 AM
Studying Special K for depression?

What's next? Rice Krispies for schizoaffective disorder?
 
2012-01-31 08:38:36 AM
zez: Special K keeps the chills away in your broken basement room
Staring at the walls, sharing your score with no one.

And you don't dance to techno anymore
I don't see you under the strobe light on the dancefloor
It's been a while since I saw your ultraviolet smile
You don't dance to techno anymore


Haha, nice! That was such a fun album.
 
2012-01-31 08:50:39 AM
 
2012-01-31 09:17:47 AM
Came for the rave GIFs, leaving you with thread # 6911793's theme tune (new window). And surprisingly, it's not Josh Wink's "Higher State Of Consciousness"...
 
2012-01-31 09:24:18 AM
Nine out ten cats surveyed agreed that tripping balls will beat the blues.

Ask your veterinarian if special K is right for you!
 
2012-01-31 10:00:03 AM
If you're going to use club drugs to treat depression, skip the small stuff and go straight to the Ecstasy/LSD cocktail. You'll be thinking and feeling a lot of things, but none of them will be depressing.
 
2012-01-31 11:29:37 AM
AzDownboy: But what about the K-Hole?

Take more. You will go from the K-Hole to K-land, where you are the queen of France and everything is wonderful.
 
2012-01-31 12:05:34 PM
I think the antidepressant effect carries over to DXM too. The only problem with DXM is the nausea, but that can be eliminated with Zofran.
 
2012-01-31 01:27:32 PM
vudukungfu:
///What ever works and allows someone to have a happy life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, then do it.


On the understanding that if your busted wired on it whilst driving you're treated exactly like a drunk driver, points on license, fines, disqualified, etc. Fine by me.
 
2012-01-31 01:50:54 PM
uttertosh: even weed

Not according to the UK governments own scientific advisory board. Weed's 'addictive properties' are more down to what it's usually mixed with: tabacco. Which is slightly more addictive than things like crack.

It may lead to a psychological dependancy in that as it makes you feel better about a situation you get hooked on that feeling, but their is no physical dependancy, no long term bonding with chemical receptors nor is it stored in body fat and released later (flashbacks, etc.).
 
2012-01-31 02:19:00 PM
Winktologist: This About That: Wouldn't that be addictive, pretty much by definition?

I've known lots of people in my time who LOVE "Special K", but I've never known anyone who was addicted to it. Just because people use it recreationally doesn't mean it's addictive.

/it's not a farking opiate...


It can be addictive. Maybe not as much as an opiate, but still strongly so.

It is also a fantastic adjunct to opiates in people with chronic pain. Lowers the amount of morphine (or equivalent) needed not just during surgery and hospitalization, but a couple of months out as well, according to studies in spine surgery pts.

/anesthesia resident.
//gettin a kick, replies, etc.
 
2012-01-31 02:27:08 PM
Winktologist: This About That: Wouldn't that be addictive, pretty much by definition?

I've known lots of people in my time who LOVE "Special K", but I've never known anyone who was addicted to it. Just because people use it recreationally doesn't mean it's addictive.

/it's not a farking opiate...


I should add, ketamine wasnt a club drug that was later used for medical purposes. Rather the other way around, so npr is being slightly misleading in classifying as a club drug being used for depression. It is a fantastic dissociative anesthetic used in hospitals and vet clinics daily. And it is decades old and cheap as dirt.
 
2012-01-31 05:53:52 PM
I wonder what it could do for bipolar disorder. I combat my bipolar with almost daily weed intake, but obviously I have to smoke often to keep the mania and depression at bay. I've also found that LSD and shrooms offer a brief break from the disorder as well, though the crash can occasionally be pretty bad once the drug wears off. Which is why I stick to mostly weed.

/A couple bowls in the morning do more to keep me happy than any of the prescription bipolar meds I have taken. Fark the politicians who claim it has no medical value. It keeps me from killing myself.
 
2012-01-31 06:14:54 PM
Esroc:
Fark the politicians who claim it has no medical value.


Remember your talking about a group of people who are at best wilfully ignorant on how shiat works and at worst honestly couldn't give a damn beyond the pay cheque; the ultimate jobsworths.

So far on Fark I've seen articles about weed being used to deal with brain tumours, fight depression and bipolar disorders, yet our political representatives remain quite adamant it has zero medical value.

That is blatantly false.
 
2012-01-31 06:33:31 PM
sarah_t_s: uttertosh: even weed



Purely from a personal standpoint. Of course.
 
2012-01-31 08:01:53 PM
uttertosh: sarah_t_s: uttertosh: even weed



Purely from a personal standpoint. Of course.


Well, I am citing a report published by the science advisory board to the UK Government so... not so much personal. As to my personal stand point... officially...it is a Category B controlled substance, even 'personal use' quantities carry hefty fines and possible jail time, I would, naturally, never do anything to break the law. Nor would I incite others to undertake law breaking activities which would fall under the Misuse of Computers Act.

/Has seen the shadows move, everyone should try the good shiat at least once.
//Allegedly.
 
2012-01-31 10:58:00 PM
uttertosh: This About That: Wouldn't that be addictive, pretty much by definition?

Actually, it would be entirely non addictive, precisely by definition.

I had taken K every weekend for 4-5 years before stopping due to moving to an area that had no supply. There was no cold turkey, no withdrawal symptoms and no psychological dependency issues. That was 9 years ago and, whilst I wouldn't mind taking it again, I've no urge to go searching for a source. If I'd tried that with coke, heroin or even weed, and I'm sure there would be a totally different scenario.

I went through a phase of mixing the powdered form 50:50 with coke, a mixture known as CK1. You get the disassociation trip effect, but the coke keeps your consciousness from entirely disappearing into the "k-hole"

For anyone experiencing depression, I'd recommend getting professional help first.

For anyone bored with MDMA and feel the want to explore your inner mind, I'd recommend CK1, but only if you've dabbled in other hallucinogens like salvia, shrooms, lsd, etc.

K is pretty intense and is unlike anything I have ever done before. Fun once you get the hang of it, a bit scary the first time, though.

It's funny, cos K is exactly how I imagined all "DRUGS ARE BAD" drugs to be like, due to the anti-"DRUGS" posters and PSA's of my childhood.

It was precisely as they'd advertised, and gave me the 'hit' that helped me recreate my childhood fantasies of what it was like to be the drooling mess on the floor, just like the posters showed!!

/ex K-holer
//had addictions, but NEVER to K


i always saw K as being as close to death w/out actually dying. i never saw it as physically addictive, but that feeling itself was a wonderful escape that, at that time, i never wanted to stop.
when i did, i was grateful there was no physical w/drawl.

/sub-c K user for 3 years
 
2012-01-31 11:50:12 PM
I've never been farked on K.

hmmmm might have to check that one out.
 
2012-02-01 12:33:10 AM
k is awesome done properly

don't stuff your nose
pop a cap in your ass

a complete leave-your-body treat in about an hour.

last time i did it, topped up with salvia
for a wonderfully organic flight
 
2012-02-01 02:49:59 AM
it's lisa e.:

i always saw K as being as close to death w/out actually dying. i never saw it as physically addictive, but that feeling itself was a wonderful escape that, at that time, i never wanted to stop.
when i did, i was grateful there was no physical w/drawl.

/sub-c K user for 3 years


If you ever get the chance to try, i highly recommend DMT, for the same reason.

Oh, and... hi, fellow pshychonaut!! :-)
 
2012-02-01 10:22:21 AM
uttertosh:

Oh, and... hi, fellow pshychonaut!! :-)



hellooooo!

as for your recommendation, i *totally* understand.
oh, the stories...

/boom cha boom cha boom cha boom cha...
 
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