mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

There's only one side of the story in the article. Who knows why he broke up with her. Maybe she'd put on a few pounds, or he'd met someone younger, or she turned up pregnant. There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did. It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

The only lifes the ruin are lives that "deserve" it?
sSame with murderers?
YOu do realize there's something called a M"motive"

and if u can't break up a relationship proper. you are on drugs.

cause anyone can emphazieeze empathy
but it takes a real emphaziser to empathize.

mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

This. I cannot argue with your logic.

Rick Kalister: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

There's only one side of the story in the article. Who knows why he broke up with her. Maybe she'd put on a few pounds, or he'd met someone younger, or she turned up pregnant. There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did. It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

Man, I hope you aren't being serious...

It's always the man's fault.

mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

That's great and all, but where do you draw the line? When a jury finds a rape suspect not guilty, or when there's no evidence to prove rape, or when there's clear evidence that there wasn't (in which case it'd never go to trial)?

You don't really want to discourage women from making a legitimate claim even if there's not much proof.

Rick Kalister: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

There's only one side of the story in the article. Who knows why he broke up with her. Maybe she'd put on a few pounds, or he'd met someone younger, or she turned up pregnant. There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did. It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

0/10. better luck next time.

Well, seeing how the woman lied to the police, shouldn't she be charged with lying to the police?

/It seems logical to me, dammit!

6 comments and green-lit? I will never understand the moderators here.

wxboy: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

That's great and all, but where do you draw the line? When a jury finds a rape suspect not guilty, or when there's no evidence to prove rape, or when there's clear evidence that there wasn't (in which case it'd never go to trial)?

You don't really want to discourage women from making a legitimate claim even if there's not much proof.

No-- you draw the line if she is convicted of making an intentional false claim. Drawing bruises on yourself to make your fake rape claim more believable is a good place to start with criminal proceedings against you. Lack of a conviction of a accused rapist is an entirely different story.

Rick Kalister: There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did.

How about no.

Woman is bruised up, her clothes are torn, she goes in to police station, desk sergeant says
"What happened to you".

Woman says "grape":

Desk sergeant says "don't you mean rape"

Woman says "no, there were a bunch of them".

.2 gram cannibis?
Is that even a roach worth?

He almost certainly raped her at some point in the past. It's sad that our justice system would take "fake" bruises as evidence that she was not the victim of a man. Of course she is. We need to empower women to do this sort of thing in order to bring men to justice for collectively being oppressive rapists. The specifics of this care are merely details. I hope she gets a good lawyer.

Rick Kalister: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

There's only one side of the story in the article. Who knows why he broke up with her. Maybe she'd put on a few pounds, or he'd met someone younger, or she turned up pregnant. There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did. It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

0/10...you really need to work at this whole "trolling" thing.

Gentlemen, a wise man once told me: never put your dick in crazy. This is an example of the outcome.

Slesfo: He almost certainly raped her at some point in the past. It's sad that our justice system would take "fake" bruises as evidence that she was not the victim of a man. Of course she is. We need to empower women to do this sort of thing in order to bring men to justice for collectively being oppressive rapists. The specifics of this care are merely details. I hope she gets a good lawyer.

0/10...you are as bad at this as the other guy.

Slesfo: He almost certainly raped her at some point in the past. It's sad that our justice system would take "fake" bruises as evidence that she was not the victim of a man. Of course she is. We need to empower women to do this sort of thing in order to bring men to justice for collectively being oppressive rapists. The specifics of this care are merely details. I hope she gets a good lawyer.

Weak trolls in this thread, leaving disappointed

FTA: Mr Carey was arrested for serious sexual offences on the naval base and put in a paddy wagon in front of his colleagues.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/woman-used-make-up-to-fake-rape-claim/ story-e6frfkvr-1226257017142#ixzz1kxPDxz4s

Great reporting there, Lou. Mr. Carey is the judge, Warren Clark is accused of looking like Popeye the sailor man and acting like Bluto.

Slesfo: He almost certainly raped her at some point in the past. It's sad that our justice system would take "fake" bruises as evidence that she was not the victim of a man. Of course she is. We need to empower women to do this sort of thing in order to bring men to justice for collectively being oppressive rapists. The specifics of this care are merely details. I hope she gets a good lawyer.

Gloria Allred would gladly take this case, if it were stateside.

And here I thought the accusation of women falsely crying "rape" was only a trope of misogynists. Poor, naive me.

poe_zlaw:
No-- you draw the line if she is convicted of making an intentional false claim. Drawing bruises on yourself to make your fake rape claim more believable is a good place to start with criminal proceedings against you. Lack of a conviction of a accused rapist is an entirely different story.

These decision not to charge here is 50% optics and 50% how things look. The facts of the case don't actually matter because most people don't read past the headlines - some women who see "Rape accuser jailed" in the Sun will not be able to get that image out of their minds and make a truthful accusation of her own.

Hot

Rick Kalister:
There's only one side of the story in the article. Who knows why he broke up with her. Maybe she'd put on a few pounds, or he'd met someone younger, or she turned up pregnant. There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did. It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

The problem of a sincere bleeding heart statement is that it is nearly impossible to distinguish from a bad troll. When in doubt give 4/10.

RedPhoenix122: Problem is, sometimes it's not that simple. If someone is raped, but there's not enough evidence to prove it, will she be investigated for lying to the police at that point?

It will be just like any other crime report. And most jurisdictions will only bring charges of a false rape report if they have a confession.

Rick Kalister: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

There's only one side of the story in the article. Who knows why he broke up with her. Maybe she'd put on a few pounds, or he'd met someone younger, or she turned up pregnant. There are many justifiable reasons for doing what she did. It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

Or maybe she had a debilitating disease, like say cancer or MS and he had found a younger, less diseased woman, the new woman has scary eyes but he has learned to live with that. He signed a pledge saying he won't do that again, but he kept his fingers crossed just in case his new job venture didn't work out.

RedPhoenix122: Your Zionist Leader: You do have a point, but when I was an officer, we actually would have codes for "good rape" vs "bad rape". I was on a call one time were the women said "I didn't get to finish so yea, I want y'all to take him in for rape". It happens, and with alarming frequency. There really does need to be a way for people who report that to be prosecuted, more than just misusing 911.

Agreed, but I think prosecuting them the same as a rapist sets a bad precedent, and may make some women more afraid to report a legit rape. But there does need to be punishment for filing a false report, especially some involving community service, possibly working for a rape counselor, so they can see what the results of rape actually are.

If nothing else she will have a much more believable lie to tell next time around.


Shyla: 6 comments and green-lit? I will never understand the moderators here.

Fark gender war threads usually do better closer to the weekends.

Endive Wombat: Your Zionist Leader: You do have a point, but when I was an officer, we actually would have codes for "good rape" vs "bad rape". I was on a call one time were the women said "I didn't get to finish so yea, I want y'all to take him in for rape". It happens, and with alarming frequency. There really does need to be a way for people who report that to be prosecuted, more than just misusing 911.

Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute here...so women would call 911. Because the guy they just farked. Couldn't get them off? Really? I hate humanity sometimes.

A police officer lying? Unlikely...

Well, this is bound to be a sane, rational and sensitive discussion.

Rick Kalister: It's a shame that they are basically smearing her now.

Callous: RedPhoenix122: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

Problem is, sometimes it's not that simple. If someone is raped, but there's not enough evidence to prove it, will she be investigated for lying to the police at that point? I do think she should be punished, but I disagree as to the degree. Especially when we have a court system that's based more on trying to convict instead of trying to find out the truth. But, that's just my opinion.

I would assume that whenever a rape is reported the police investigate the legitimacy of the accusation.

Assuming they don't either:

1) immediately side with the accuser and arrest the accused before doing a full investigation,

2) immediately disbelieve the accuser and either blow them off or accuse them of lying.

RedPhoenix122: Your Zionist Leader: You do have a point, but when I was an officer, we actually would have codes for "good rape" vs "bad rape". I was on a call one time were the women said "I didn't get to finish so yea, I want y'all to take him in for rape". It happens, and with alarming frequency. There really does need to be a way for people who report that to be prosecuted, more than just misusing 911.

Agreed, but I think prosecuting them the same as a rapist sets a bad precedent, and may make some women more afraid to report a legit rape. But there does need to be punishment for filing a false report, especially some involving community service, possibly working for a rape counselor, so they can see what the results of rape actually are.

...and possibly become even better at faking it.

This was not a case of he said/she said. It wasn't a case where a rape might very well have taken place, but there was insufficient evidence to find the defendant guilty. No, it was a case in which she fabricated the story and the evidence. By her actions, her ex risked incurring major jail time. She was willing to make him run this risk because she herself risked almost nothing... In cases this egregious, she really should have to face the same potential risks as her victim.

capt.hollister: RedPhoenix122: Your Zionist Leader: You do have a point, but when I was an officer, we actually would have codes for "good rape" vs "bad rape". I was on a call one time were the women said "I didn't get to finish so yea, I want y'all to take him in for rape". It happens, and with alarming frequency. There really does need to be a way for people who report that to be prosecuted, more than just misusing 911.

Agreed, but I think prosecuting them the same as a rapist sets a bad precedent, and may make some women more afraid to report a legit rape. But there does need to be punishment for filing a false report, especially some involving community service, possibly working for a rape counselor, so they can see what the results of rape actually are.

...and possibly become even better at faking it.

This was not a case of he said/she said. It wasn't a case where a rape might very well have taken place, but there was insufficient evidence to find the defendant guilty. No, it was a case in which she fabricated the story and the evidence. By her actions, her ex risked incurring major jail time. She was willing to make him run this risk because she herself risked almost nothing... In cases this egregious, she really should have to face the same potential risks as her victim.

There already are criminal statutes covering perjury and making false police reports. Why aren't those good enough? Particularly when, according to the FBI, the rate of false rape accusations is the same as the rate of false accusations of every other crime.

Jon iz teh kewl: mauricecano: Women who falsely claim rape should be charged and face the same sentence the victim faces. They should be registered sex offenders too as they are clearly predators and the public should know who these people are. They know they are about to ruin someone's life and do it anyways, they deserve jail and branding so the public can stay safe.

The only lifes the ruin are lives that "deserve" it?
sSame with murderers?
YOu do realize there's something called a M"motive"

and if u can't break up a relationship proper. you are on drugs.

cause anyone can emphazieeze empathy
but it takes a real emphaziser to empathize.

It seems that turning off your capslock somehow destroyed
your ability to spell and makes you look even more retarded.
Looks like you have a choice to make. Please stay in super-retard mode, it's more amusing

Callous:
I would assume that whenever a rape is reported the police investigate the legitimacy of the accusation.

I find it hilarious that somebody believes that police investigate.

This is what police actually do:

1. Raise revenue via traffic and parking tickets.
2. Listen to both sides and guess who's telling the truth, and take appropriate action.
3. Get rid of undesirables.
4. Fill out paperwork for insurance purposes.
5. Serve warrants.

Outside of murder, police don't investigate, don't attempt to prevent crimes, and don't try particularly hard to catch bad guys.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that is what bad cops do. I'm saying that's what they get paid to do. They're just doing what they're told.