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2012-01-30 09:17:04 AM  
They don't hate *him*, subby. Republicans just hate the way he's made politics so partisan. They remember how George W. Bush spent almost 8 years reaching across the aisles, involving the Democrats, forging a new era of civility, and it just hurts them deeply to have had Obama strut in and brush all that work aside. I think, in fact, the emotion we're describing here is less "hate" than a deep, abiding sadness...sadness for what's been lost, sadness for what will take so long again to rebuild. Sadness, I think, for what we may never have. It is a sadness felt not for themselves, but for all of us.
 
2012-01-30 09:26:07 AM  
Honestly, I think the last part of this article is more Fark-worthy than the beginning.... I mean, come on.... the Duggar's campaigning for Santorum... that is Fark gold!
 
2012-01-30 09:31:27 AM  
As Pocket Ninja satirically points out he is Bushier than Bush.
 
2012-01-30 09:38:50 AM  

I_C_Weener: As Pocket Ninja satirically points out he is Bushier than Bush.


Yeah, the republicans in Congress nuke the economy because making sure Obama isn't re-elected is more important and Obama's partisan.
 
2012-01-30 09:39:03 AM  

I_C_Weener: As Pocket Ninja satirically points out he is Bushier than Bush.


That's why the people who voted for Bush hate him so much. There is such a thing as "too conservative," and it's refreshing to see so many sensible conservatives reigning it in. It shows an emotional maturity that is so lacking in DemonCraps.
 
2012-01-30 09:40:16 AM  
We should really change the definition of Republicans, because as one I don't hate Obama.
 
2012-01-30 09:44:41 AM  

Mugato: I_C_Weener: As Pocket Ninja satirically points out he is Bushier than Bush.

Yeah, the republicans in Congress nuke the economy because making sure Obama isn't re-elected is more important and Obama's partisan.


Didn't the economy fall apart between...oh I don't know 2006-2010...when the Democrats were in charge?
 
2012-01-30 10:07:35 AM  

I_C_Weener: Didn't the economy fall apart between...oh I don't know 2006-2010...when the Democrats were in charge?


The economy was in the crapper before that but I'm talking about the republicans being purposefully obstructionist for the sole purpose of making Obama a 1 term President. That's pretty much the definition of partisan.
 
2012-01-30 10:09:33 AM  

Pocket Ninja: They don't hate *him*, subby. Republicans just hate the way he's made politics so partisan. They remember how George W. Bush spent almost 8 years reaching across the aisles, involving the Democrats, forging a new era of civility, and it just hurts them deeply to have had Obama strut in and brush all that work aside. I think, in fact, the emotion we're describing here is less "hate" than a deep, abiding sadness...sadness for what's been lost, sadness for what will take so long again to rebuild. Sadness, I think, for what we may never have. It is a sadness felt not for themselves, but for all of us.


I wish I was you.
 
2012-01-30 10:16:16 AM  

Pocket Ninja: They don't hate *him*, subby. Republicans just hate the way he's made politics so partisan. They remember how George W. Bush spent almost 8 years reaching across the aisles, involving the Democrats, forging a new era of civility, and it just hurts them deeply to have had Obama strut in and brush all that work aside. I think, in fact, the emotion we're describing here is less "hate" than a deep, abiding sadness...sadness for what's been lost, sadness for what will take so long again to rebuild. Sadness, I think, for what we may never have. It is a sadness felt not for themselves, but for all of us.


Well played.
 
2012-01-30 10:16:34 AM  

I_C_Weener: Mugato: I_C_Weener: As Pocket Ninja satirically points out he is Bushier than Bush.

Yeah, the republicans in Congress nuke the economy because making sure Obama isn't re-elected is more important and Obama's partisan.

Didn't the economy fall apart between...oh I don't know 2006-2010...when the Democrats were in charge?


So therefore the current GOP led house is to blame for the crappy economy now?
 
2012-01-30 10:17:55 AM  
I remember back in the late 90s, probably late 98 or early 99, I heard a couple of folks in the kitchen at my office talking in hushed tones about how someone needed to "take Clinton out". And bear in mind, this was toward the end of his second term.

The economy was soaring, deficit spending was under control, we were at peace, the darkness of the impeachment battle was behind us. In short, these were good times to be an American. And yet these two were seething with so much hatred for the president, they couldn't even suppress their assassination talk (which could warrant a secret service visit) when standing around in a public place.

In short: I think that Obama's first term has been reasonably successful in that he has kept America from getting attacked and kept us from sinking into a depression. These are good things. Certainly not good like they were under Clinton, but good nonetheless.

But there are some people who are so partisan, they are actively driven to fantasies of murder when those successes come from the other side.

If Obama wins a second term, he damn well better double his secret service protection.
 
2012-01-30 10:24:03 AM  

Jake Havechek: I_C_Weener: Mugato: I_C_Weener: As Pocket Ninja satirically points out he is Bushier than Bush.

Yeah, the republicans in Congress nuke the economy because making sure Obama isn't re-elected is more important and Obama's partisan.

Didn't the economy fall apart between...oh I don't know 2006-2010...when the Democrats were in charge?

So therefore the current GOP led house is to blame for the crappy economy now?


No that's Obamas fault, just like 9/11 was Clintons.
 
2012-01-30 10:24:40 AM  
I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.
 
2012-01-30 10:25:44 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


And, how many war crimes has the current president committed?
 
2012-01-30 10:26:04 AM  

I_C_Weener: Didn't the economy fall apart between...oh I don't know 2006-2010...when the Democrats were in charge?


the democrats were "in charge" for about four months in 2009, between franken's swearing in and the loss of ted kennedy's senate seat. prior to that (and after that), the senate - half of congress - was held up by republican obstructionism. but, when the GOP took over congress in january 2011 (maintaining their obstructionist minority in the senate and assuming the majority in the house), the economy began to tank as every single piece of pro-economy policy was crushed by the GOP.

incidentally, if your position is that congress, not the white house, is to blame for the currently claimed sorry state of the economy, then i'm guessing you'll be voting obama in november, right?
 
2012-01-30 10:26:09 AM  

gilgigamesh: The economy was soaring, deficit spending was under control, we were at peace, the darkness of the impeachment battle was behind us. In short, these were good times to be an American.


I'm sorry, but I could never be proud as an American if I knew that my president was getting BJ's in the Oval Office.
 
2012-01-30 10:26:09 AM  

gilgigamesh: I remember back in the late 90s, probably late 98 or early 99, I heard a couple of folks in the kitchen at my office talking in hushed tones about how someone needed to "take Clinton out". And bear in mind, this was toward the end of his second term.

The economy was soaring, deficit spending was under control, we were at peace, the darkness of the impeachment battle was behind us. In short, these were good times to be an American. And yet these two were seething with so much hatred for the president, they couldn't even suppress their assassination talk (which could warrant a secret service visit) when standing around in a public place.

In short: I think that Obama's first term has been reasonably successful in that he has kept America from getting attacked and kept us from sinking into a depression. These are good things. Certainly not good like they were under Clinton, but good nonetheless.

But there are some people who are so partisan, they are actively driven to fantasies of murder when those successes come from the other side.

If Obama wins a second term, he damn well better double his secret service protection.


These people always existed. Difference is that now, they are only a mouse click away from posting their vitriol and hatred in an anonymous forum, Facebook, newspaper comment forum, etc.
 
2012-01-30 10:26:27 AM  

EyeballKid: machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.

And, how many war crimes has the current president committed?


ooo let's not go there.
 
2012-01-30 10:27:56 AM  

Arkanaut: gilgigamesh: The economy was soaring, deficit spending was under control, we were at peace, the darkness of the impeachment battle was behind us. In short, these were good times to be an American.

I'm sorry, but I could never be proud as an American if I knew that my president was getting BJ's in the Oval Office.


I agree. That's why I support Newt Gingrich.
 
2012-01-30 10:28:01 AM  

Arkanaut: gilgigamesh: The economy was soaring, deficit spending was under control, we were at peace, the darkness of the impeachment battle was behind us. In short, these were good times to be an American.

I'm sorry, but I could never be proud as an American if I knew that my president was getting BJ's in the Oval Office.


My guess is that presidents getting blown in the oval office is as old as the oval office.
 
2012-01-30 10:28:05 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


bush was an appallingly bad president, to be sure -- probably the worst in a century. but he's a combination of lincoln, FDR and jesus christ compared with the current crop of GOP hopefuls. in other words, i'd rather have george w. bush installed as hereditary monarch than have newt or santorum or even romney occupy the oval office for a month.
 
2012-01-30 10:28:25 AM  

I_C_Weener: Didn't the economy fall apart between...oh I don't know 2006-2010...when the Democrats were in charge?


In charge how? 2006-2008 you had Bush holding the veto pen, and nothing big got passed. 2008-2010 you had republican filibuster cultists, 2010-now you have the Tea Party congress. Democrats have shown willingness to compromise to get things passed the entire time, but aren't allowed to do anything they simply want because they want it. The Republicans have tainted the entire system. They are the cancer that is killing America.
 
2012-01-30 10:30:44 AM  
Just looking at Obama you can tell he is a divider, there's just something about him that isn't like the other presidents we have had in office, as a republican I can't quite put my finger on it...
 
2012-01-30 10:31:33 AM  
The republicans want no regulation and smaller government. Didn't wall street screw us because no one was watching them? So you repeat the same mistakes by letting buisness run business? This has worked for us... seriously?

Obama has tried. He has had to deal with only out for their own party saboteurs. You may not agree with him, but hate.... you just have to be corrupt if you don;t see it.
 
2012-01-30 10:31:36 AM  

FlashHarry: in other words, i'd rather have george w. bush installed as hereditary monarch than have newt or santorum or even romney occupy the oval office for a month.


www.achievement.org
"Pssst...we did that already!"
 
2012-01-30 10:31:50 AM  

FlashHarry: machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.

bush was an appallingly bad president, to be sure -- probably the worst in a century. but he's a combination of lincoln, FDR and jesus christ compared with the current crop of GOP hopefuls. in other words, i'd rather have george w. bush installed as hereditary monarch than have newt or santorum or even romney occupy the oval office for a month.


That gives me a horrific image. What if all three were in charge like some multiheaded Derpberus?

That's the stuff of nightmares.
 
2012-01-30 10:31:54 AM  
Shame. He's one of the best Republicans we've had in decades.
 
2012-01-30 10:39:32 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


Probably, but it wasn't just rhetoric. When democrats criticized Bush, they generally had something specific in mind, like Iraq, or the Patriot Act, or No Child Left Behind, or the tax cuts. When Republicans criticize Obama, they have general accusations of failure, like out of control spending or bad economic policies. They can't ever point to something specific because virtually all of Obama's 'failings' have been the direct result of something Bush started.
 
2012-01-30 10:39:56 AM  
As far as I can tell, the only things that Republicans actually like are tax cuts for people who don't need them, tax increases for people who can't afford them, telling women what they can or can't do with their vaginas, controlling who gets to marry who, making sure the poor and working poor stay that way, and guns.
 
2012-01-30 10:41:13 AM  

mediaho: Shame. He's one of the best Republicans we've had in decades.


Heh... Exactly. Been saying that for a while now.
 
2012-01-30 10:41:17 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


Bush wasn't that bad. Certain members of his cabinet though were horrible. If 9/11 hadn't happened. Bush likely would have been a one term president who focused mostly on domestic issues, but got himself into too much trouble with his evangelical leanings and a little too much corporate corruption. He would have left the Oval Office with a "slightly below average" rating.

/unless the Dems still run Kerry in this alternate universe of mine
//Kerry sucked
 
2012-01-30 10:41:47 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


Except he never did anything positive so there's no way to tell. I do know that his approval rating was in the 90%'s after 9/11.
 
2012-01-30 10:42:55 AM  

Outrageous Muff: We should really change the definition of Republicans, because as one I don't hate Obama.


Why would you? He's the best center right POTUS since Nixon.
 
2012-01-30 10:46:07 AM  

keylock71: mediaho: Shame. He's one of the best Republicans we've had in decades.

Heh... Exactly. Been saying that for a while now.


I'm repeating this at work... My right-wing co-workers seem to disagree.

/they that were usually open to discussion have been awfully sullen lately
 
2012-01-30 10:46:40 AM  

Frosty_Icehole: FlashHarry: machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.

bush was an appallingly bad president, to be sure -- probably the worst in a century. but he's a combination of lincoln, FDR and jesus christ compared with the current crop of GOP hopefuls. in other words, i'd rather have george w. bush installed as hereditary monarch than have newt or santorum or even romney occupy the oval office for a month.

That gives me a horrific image. What if all three were in charge like some multiheaded Derpberus?


www.humorlinks.com
 
2012-01-30 10:47:12 AM  

MFAWG: Outrageous Muff: We should really change the definition of Republicans, because as one I don't hate Obama.

Why would you? He's the best center right POTUS since Nixon.


Which goes to show just how far to the right the GOP have gone.
 
2012-01-30 10:49:04 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: When democrats criticized Bush, they generally had something specific in mind, like Iraq, or the Patriot Act, or No Child Left Behind, or the tax cuts. When Republicans criticize Obama, they have general accusations of failure, like out of control spending or bad economic policies.


Maher touched on this during his last show. The left criticized GWB for things he actually did - war under false pretenses, exploding deficit and debt, etc. The right criticizes Obama for things they think he wants to do or might do - raising taxes (lowered them), taking away guns (loosened gun restrictions), etc.
 
2012-01-30 10:50:23 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush?


Kind of, but Bush went from 91-ish% approval rating after 9/11 to everyone hating him. You'd have to figure that 91% included a lot of Democrats. Obama's had most of the GOP hating him from day one. So Democrats at least gave Bush a chance that the GOP hasn't given Obama.
 
2012-01-30 10:50:26 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


I got one single rebuttal for that bullshiat, 91% approval rating after 9/11. Most of the lefty's put aside their differences when we were attacked, Bush earned his hatred. Obama gets the guy who did it and the right whined how it might give Obama a few percentage points extra approval. There is a fundamental difference between Libs and Cons and it is psychologically provable that the right wing is the wing of hatred, fear, and regression. Let me ask you, if another 9/11 were to happen tomorrow would the right-wing embrace Obama like the left did for Bush? I rest my case.
 
2012-01-30 10:50:33 AM  

MFAWG: Outrageous Muff: We should really change the definition of Republicans, because as one I don't hate Obama.

Why would you? He's the best center right POTUS since Nixon HW.


And I question whether Obama could hold a candle to HW.
 
2012-01-30 10:50:50 AM  

gilgigamesh: Arkanaut: gilgigamesh: The economy was soaring, deficit spending was under control, we were at peace, the darkness of the impeachment battle was behind us. In short, these were good times to be an American.

I'm sorry, but I could never be proud as an American if I knew that my president was getting BJ's in the Oval Office.

My guess is that presidents getting blown in the oval office is as old as the oval office.


Yeah but we didn't know about it!
 
2012-01-30 10:51:04 AM  

machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.


As someone who consistently votes D, I wasn't the same way about Bush. I did feel that way about Cheney.
 
2012-01-30 10:54:18 AM  

Crunch61: keylock71: mediaho: Shame. He's one of the best Republicans we've had in decades.

Heh... Exactly. Been saying that for a while now.

I'm repeating this at work... My right-wing co-workers seem to disagree.

/they that were usually open to discussion have been awfully sullen lately


It's hilarious how indignant some Republicans get when you point out things like this...

Some of them really think he's the most liberal liberal ever to liberally govern the country.
 
2012-01-30 10:54:20 AM  

Jake Havechek: So therefore the current GOP led house is to blame for the crappy economy now?


Hell no, that's lib's fault too
 
2012-01-30 10:55:43 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: When Republicans criticize Obama, they have general accusations of failure, like out of control spending or bad economic policies. They can't ever point to something specific because virtually all of Obama's 'failings' have been the direct result of something Bush started.


Totally untrue, as Bush has nothing to do with Obama being black.
 
2012-01-30 10:55:48 AM  
He's the most liberal liberal that ever liberaled!
 
2012-01-30 10:55:49 AM  

Space_Poet: . Let me ask you, if another 9/11 were to happen tomorrow would the right-wing embrace Obama like the left did for Bush? I rest my case.


Forget that, I've always wondered what would have happened if Gore would have been president during 9/11 instead of Bush? Think Limbaugh and Co wouldn't have had a field day with that one? Hell I vividly remember some Republican congressperson (vividly remember except the guy's name) being interviewed on 9/11 saying it was the fault of Clinton because he lessened military spending.
 
2012-01-30 10:56:21 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: machoprogrammer: I like Obama and all, but weren't Democrats the same way about Bush? Like, he could've saved a baby from drowning and Democrats would've found fault with it.

Probably, but it wasn't just rhetoric. When democrats criticized Bush, they generally had something specific in mind, like Iraq, or the Patriot Act, or No Child Left Behind, or the tax cuts. When Republicans criticize Obama, they have general accusations of failure, like out of control spending or bad economic policies. They can't ever point to something specific because virtually all of Obama's 'failings' have been the direct result of something Bush started.


To be fair, there was all kinds of crazy criticisms of Bush from Random Crazy Internet Malcontent, but if you compare what establishment Democrats said then to what establishment Republicans say now, well, there is no comparison. The things coming straight out of the GOP are bloody insane.
 
2012-01-30 10:58:23 AM  
I'm glad Republicans don't hate him.

Things will go so much smoother once he's re-elected.
 
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