The ejector seat and front mounted machine guns?

markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

Old or not, the Ford Mondeo was a spectacular car.

Great looking car.

meddleRPI: markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

Old or not, the Ford Mondeo was a spectacular car.

Yep...I saw them in Ireland and the UK and wanted one...that and a Focus RS 500.

markie_farkie: Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

Or perhaps that sedan and hatchback sales are much higher in Europe which means Ford tests their new designs over there first, before they bring them over to America. While in America pickup and SUV designs start here then go over to Europe.

I think the '86 Taurus was the last time a US manufacturer had the jump on automobile design, not that anyone followed. Almost purchased one, but a two-week rental changed my mind. They handled like a drunk cow.

markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

But don't you dare call the UAW lazy and greedy!

The low grade plastic bits which fall off every time the temperature falls below 0 are still all Ford.

beta_plus: markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

But don't you dare call the UAW lazy and greedy!

Because there are no unions in Europe

So, um. Which part was it?

markie_farkie: Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.


Pfft.

We are WAAAAAY ahead of them in the all-important "Truck Nutz" R&D field.

That car is blasphemy. But pretty.

beta_plus: markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

But don't you dare call the UAW lazy and greedy!

Because the guys on the line are responsible for design and marketing

markie_farkie: Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

.

Hey, but Volkswagen is trying to reverse that trend by building a new car that looks like the Fusion from three years ago!

They should give you a loaf of white bread and a vanilla cone when you test drive that generic piece of shiat.

The new Fusion looks sharp, but if the other 88% is still made by Ford there will be some very stylish junkyards in 3 years.

markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

Were also about 7-10 years behind you on price. The current Fusion is about $7K USD cheaper than the Mondeo

Ford still owns 12% of Aston Martin, which corresponds to 12% of the new Fusion being an Aston Martin. Can you guess which 12% that is?

The shoddy European electrical work?

RickyWilliams'sBong: Ford still owns 12% of Aston Martin, which corresponds to 12% of the new Fusion being an Aston Martin. Can you guess which 12% that is?

The shoddy European electrical work?

markie_farkie: meddleRPI: Old or not, the Ford Mondeo was a spectacular car.

That's my point.. By and large, Ford Euro car designs from nearly 10 years ago are vastly superior to what Ford was crapping out in the US.

Going further back, look at the Euro Escort. Light-years ahead of the crap we got here.

I guess my point is: better late than never.

The part that leaks oil on the driveway?

So does anybody have insight into how/if Aston gets to use the fact Ford makes the cars with little engines to their advantage in meeting fuel mileage standards?

mohron: So does anybody have insight into how/if Aston gets to use the fact Ford makes the cars with little engines to their advantage in meeting fuel mileage standards?

Aston uses a small rebaged Toyota for that.

/GIS Aston Martin Cygnet

Lost Thought 00: beta_plus: markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.

Mark my words, in a couple decades, most people will be driving diminutive 5 door hatchbacks powered by a 3 cylinder hybrid turbodiesel powertrain.

But don't you dare call the UAW lazy and greedy!

Because there are no unions in Europe

Oh yea, the UAW decides what Americans will buy. After deciding, the UAW then tells Ford what to make.

Outrageous Muff: Or perhaps that sedan and hatchback sales are much higher in Europe which means Ford tests their new designs over there first, before they bring them over to America. While in America pickup and SUV designs start here then go over to Europe.

no, sorry this is fark.

America is bad/ignorant/fat/lazy/stupid/etc.

The Lucas electrical system?

markie_farkie: [galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 640x480]

Look America, you're finally getting Europe's 6 year-old leftover Ford Mondeo design!

Seriously.. Americans are about 10 years behind the curve on Euro car design trends, and probably closer to 25 years on Asian domestic market designs.


the 2013 ford mondeo will look exactly like this Fusion.

Ford tried selling an exact copy of the mondeo here before, aka the Contour. Even the ST trim level was offered (SVT here).

Sales disaster. Car and Driver initially put it on its top ten list and later apologized for including it.

the Ford Focus had the same design across the pond for a number of years, diverging a few years ago. Now the focus is the same again.

I wouldn't touch a Ford back in the 90s with a 100 foot pole.

They're a lot better now.

I live in Snowmaha so my next ride will probably be a Subaru, because they don't drive the cost up another $5k just to have AWD in a sedan.

ricewater_stool: verbaltoxin: I live in Snowmaha so my next ride will probably be a Subaru, because they don't drive the cost up another $5k just to have AWD in a sedan.

The trade-off is shiatty gas mileage though.

Not in a Legacy or Impreza, it's not. MPG in a Suby is on average way better compared to most AWD sedans of the same class.

Holy crap, the engine choices in that car are insane. I'm driving a bog standard 2006 one now with the 2.3L and the five speed, no ABS or trac control, and such a thing will not even come close to existing in this model.

They're going to have two hybrids, one that's plug in and one that's not, and two "ecoboost" four bangers that are turbo charged with independent variable cam timing (I don't even know what that is).

Also, for transmissions, there's the six speed flappy paddle gear box standard in the gas cars and a continuously variable transmission in the hybrids, with some sort of "optional manual transmission" listed as well on one of the ecoboost engines. The bog standard 2.5L doesn't have a manual option that I can see, which is just completely ridiculous.

I love the Fusion, btw, but it's a pig in the snow. For whatever reason, I can not get uphill with the stick and the four banger up front. I don't know if it's tires, or I just suck at driving, but if I'm trying to go uphill on an unplowed road in first or second, I just spin the tires like crazy and get nowhere in a hurry. The rubber is all season cheapies bought new less than a year ago, which might be part of the problem, but the car just doesn't like the white stuff. The lack of ABS and trac control doesn't help, either.

phyrkrakr: Holy crap, the engine choices in that car are insane. I'm driving a bog standard 2006 one now with the 2.3L and the five speed, no ABS or trac control, and such a thing will not even come close to existing in this model.

They're going to have two hybrids, one that's plug in and one that's not, and two "ecoboost" four bangers that are turbo charged with independent variable cam timing (I don't even know what that is).

Also, for transmissions, there's the six speed flappy paddle gear box standard in the gas cars and a continuously variable transmission in the hybrids, with some sort of "optional manual transmission" listed as well on one of the ecoboost engines. The bog standard 2.5L doesn't have a manual option that I can see, which is just completely ridiculous.

I love the Fusion, btw, but it's a pig in the snow. For whatever reason, I can not get uphill with the stick and the four banger up front. I don't know if it's tires, or I just suck at driving, but if I'm trying to go uphill on an unplowed road in first or second, I just spin the tires like crazy and get nowhere in a hurry. The rubber is all season cheapies bought new less than a year ago, which might be part of the problem, but the car just doesn't like the white stuff. The lack of ABS and trac control doesn't help, either.

It's your tires. And trust me, you don't want traction control when your tires suck.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The part on fire??

Done in one. Basically, Ford is not known for building cars that don't catch on fire.

The moment I saw the front end of that car I thought "oh no they didn't" scrolled down
through the comments and yes they did. They stole Astin Martins trademark front end.

Awesome thread subby.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The part on fire??

Also, you win the thread.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: We have a 2010 Fusion. It's a really good car.

2006 sel 122,000 miles. Great car.

I'd love a Fusion. The previous version was a pleasant surprise to me.

spacechicken170am: Contrabulous Flabtraption: We have a 2010 Fusion. It's a really good car.

2006 sel 122,000 miles. Great car.

I owned a 2010 SEL for 9 months and had warranty work done on the transmission 4 times. It was slipping and flaring . . . sometimes so roughly it would chirp the tires in 3rd/4th gear. The 5th time, I had the transmission replaced entirely--and it acted up again.

In December I traded for a 2011 Taurus Ltd. and so far I'm pretty pleased . . . . knock on wood.

Owned a '95 Escort and a '95 TBird. The Escort was a weak POS at that. Was an LX with an anemic 88hp. Turn the AC on while getting on the interstate? Make that 44hp. The TBird tho didn't last long on me as the engine was shot to shiat. The transmission was on its way out the door before I even got it. Finally died on me, and had oil problems so bad that when it did die, my mechanic pulled a spark plug out that was dripping with oil.

Btw, almost all the 90s Mazdas and Ford are the EXACT same...just a different badge and slightly different body style. And I know that for a fact, most Kia Sedonas are the exact same as Ford Windstars

At first I was like


But then I

LeglessDog: spacechicken170am: Contrabulous Flabtraption: We have a 2010 Fusion. It's a really good car.

2006 sel 122,000 miles. Great car.

I owned a 2010 SEL for 9 months and had warranty work done on the transmission 4 times. It was slipping and flaring . . . sometimes so roughly it would chirp the tires in 3rd/4th gear. The 5th time, I had the transmission replaced entirely--and it acted up again.

In December I traded for a 2011 Taurus Ltd. and so far I'm pretty pleased . . . . knock on wood.

One of my co-workers had a 2010 Fusion. The dealer just handed her a brand new 2011 after finding out that her wheels could fall off. I read it here on Fark, told her, she went to the dealer and told them, they had had no clue so they looked it up. Two weeks later she has a new car.

Needless to say, I'm wary of Fusions now.