Damn ... even the Hall of Fame is fake

I blame Bonnie Hammer for this.

Tyson was quite active in his support for fighting of all types back in the day. Pretty cool that he gets recognized for it.

A fWc thread on Monday morning?

Drew probably likes the thread counts.

I vote for Robin Givens to induct him in the HOF. Anything to really set him off so he can lose his shiat and start blasting people in the the balls with Tyson uppercuts.

Best In The World: "When one has the feeling of dislike for evil, when one feels tranquil, one finds pleasure in listening to good teachings; when one has these feelings and appreciates them, one is free of fear." - Buddha

As a mixed martial artist
[I specialize in Shenshido, Jeet Kune Do, Goju Ryu Karate, Boxing, and Greeco Roman Wrestling]
I don't have a lot of respect for Mike Tyson. I'm 21 5'9" and 210 lbs. Tyson fought at 5'10" (but I say he's more like 5'8". I've stood next to him & have life size poster of him that my uncle gave me...though, I am not a fan) 220 lbs. Could I take him in tha OCtgon? You better believe it. I bet a lot of MMA fighters could. He wouldn't have lasted in the UFC. He'd be like Kimbo.

I think many MMA heavyweights could have defeated Tyson in his prime. Tyson only beat men who were poisoned by fear. Those inoculated from fear have no fear. That's my credo.

Yo, think about this. Back in da day Tyson was like a god to all you old guys. If a guy be over 30 or whateves than he might know who Tyson was and care about him. But to all the young bucks, Tyson was a can of tomatoes by the time we was old enough to peep him in action. Like, I was like 7 or 8 when he bit Evander and that was like, "man, this cat is cracker jacks." He was loopy, and then he'd get beat every other time he fought. I think you gots to be at least 30+ to live in that nostalgia. It's like when the old man on the stoop harkens back to watching skinny Foreman fightin Ali in Africa and shiat. Ya, that's great, yo, but we in the nows now. I stepped to Tyson's legacy but the fact is he's puncy now but he was a puncy cat back in the olden days too. I've watched all his fights on youtube. It ain't like he was fighting guys with skills. When he fought guys with skills he got got.

Or maybe I just spit hot fire like Brometheus.

Cool story ITG...

pkellmey: Tyson was quite active in his support for fighting of all types back in the day. Pretty cool that he gets recognized for it.

That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

You do realize that there isn't a single damned "fight" in WWE, right?

In: Mike Tyson, Pete Rose, Drew Carrey

Not in: Bruno Sammartino, Ultimate Warrior, KISS

DiamondDave: In: Mike Tyson, Pete Rose, Drew Carrey

Not in: Bruno Sammartino, Ultimate Warrior, KISS, Randy Savage

FTFY

Tyson is a better choice than Carey. The celebrity wing is an interesting place.

DiamondDave: In: Mike Tyson, Pete Rose, Drew Carrey

Not in: Bruno Sammartino, Ultimate Warrior, KISS

Jake Roberts.

DiamondDave: In: Mike Tyson, Pete Rose, Drew Carrey

Not in: Bruno Sammartino, Ultimate Warrior, KISS

Bruno won't have anything to do with the industry since it moved away from the "legitimate sport" days to "sports entertainment." Warrior supposedly shot them down, still being ticked about the DVD. KISS was related to a gimmick that they don't fully control as Torburg still uses it in the indys.

Mike Tyson is probably going to be the most psyched of any of the celebrity inductees. He's been a huge fan his entire life. Not that we're going to understand half the speech.

DiamondDave: In: Mike Tyson, Pete Rose, Drew Carrey

Not in: Bruno Sammartino, Ultimate Warrior, KISS

You mean Demolition, right?

Fark You Buddy: Cool story ITG...

You know, when you quote his incoherent gibberish, those of us who were wise enough to put him on ignore have to see it.

I mean, I'm okay with trolls if they're clever (and there are a few on here), but this guy is neither clever, nor is he literate.

Dog Welder: Fark You Buddy: Cool story ITG...

You know, when you quote his incoherent gibberish, those of us who were wise enough to put him on ignore have to see it.

I mean, I'm okay with trolls if they're clever (and there are a few on here), but this guy is neither clever, nor is he literate.

It really is a quality post when you simply see the (ignored) under the name. And yes, trolls have a place in threads, usually as strawmen for the opposing view, but spending half your time typing in slang doesn't make you witty or clever.

There is that level of "You're trying to hard" and he's reached that level.

Also with Randy Savage - Rumor is last year Vince tried to play nice after years of giving him shiat, and asked if he wanted in the HOF, and Savage, wanting to take a shot back at Vinnie Mac, told him only if it's the whole Poffo family, not just himself.

So Vince told him to piss off, then Macho Man suddenly died, and now fans are asking about Macho Man again. Vince will have to eat his pride on this, and have to let him in soon. It would be epic of Stephanie inducted him.

Thank God, that the most prestigious Hall in the SPORT of professional wrestling is inducting the pound for pound greatest heavyweight fighter OF ALL TIME.

/Motherf*cking ARMBAR

Best In The World:


As a mixed martial artist

What is your record ? What shows have you fought in ?



[I specialize in Shenshido, Jeet Kune Do, Goju Ryu Karate, Boxing, and Greeco Roman Wrestling]

Nobody specializes in FIVE martial arts. What is your boxing record ? Where did you wrestle (high school, college) ?

I have little respect for JKD because I've never seen it work on a live resisting opponent. Never heard of Shenshido (or Senshido because spelling doesn't seem to be one of your specialties, Greeco ?)

I don't have a lot of respect for Mike Tyson. I'm 21 5'9" and 210 lbs. Tyson fought at 5'10" (but I say he's more like 5'8". I've stood next to him & have life size poster of him that my uncle gave me...though, I am not a fan) 220 lbs. Could I take him in tha OCtgon? You better believe it. I bet a lot of MMA fighters could. He wouldn't have lasted in the UFC. He'd be like Kimbo.

I think many MMA heavyweights could have defeated Tyson in his prime. Tyson only beat men who were poisoned by fear. Those inoculated from fear have no fear. That's my credo.


What Tyson did have that other boxers that tried MMA didn't is proven one punch KTFO power and accuracy. Could a MMA heavyweight successfully shoot in and get a takedown or a Muay Thai clinch without being put to sleep by Tyson in his prime ? It's not impossible but it's very risky.

Best In The World: "When one has the feeling of dislike for evil, when one feels tranquil, one finds pleasure in listening to good teachings; when one has these feelings and appreciates them, one is free of fear." - Buddha

As a mixed martial artist
[I specialize in Shenshido, Jeet Kune Do, Goju Ryu Karate, Boxing, and Greeco Roman Wrestling]
I don't have a lot of respect for Mike Tyson. I'm 21 5'9" and 210 lbs. Tyson fought at 5'10" (but I say he's more like 5'8". I've stood next to him & have life size poster of him that my uncle gave me...though, I am not a fan) 220 lbs. Could I take him in tha OCtgon? You better believe it. I bet a lot of MMA fighters could. He wouldn't have lasted in the UFC. He'd be like Kimbo.

I think many MMA heavyweights could have defeated Tyson in his prime. Tyson only beat men who were poisoned by fear. Those inoculated from fear have no fear. That's my credo.

Yo, think about this. Back in da day Tyson was like a god to all you old guys. If a guy be over 30 or whateves than he might know who Tyson was and care about him. But to all the young bucks, Tyson was a can of tomatoes by the time we was old enough to peep him in action. Like, I was like 7 or 8 when he bit Evander and that was like, "man, this cat is cracker jacks." He was loopy, and then he'd get beat every other time he fought. I think you gots to be at least 30+ to live in that nostalgia. It's like when the old man on the stoop harkens back to watching skinny Foreman fightin Ali in Africa and shiat. Ya, that's great, yo, but we in the nows now. I stepped to Tyson's legacy but the fact is he's puncy now but he was a puncy cat back in the olden days too. I've watched all his fights on youtube. It ain't like he was fighting guys with skills. When he fought guys with skills he got got.

Or maybe I just spit hot fire like Brometheus.

No, you're just a loser troll with nothing better to do.

FormlessOne: You do realize that there isn't a single damned "fight" in WWE, right?

TravisBickle62: Damn ... even the Hall of Fame is fake

BAH GAWD KING!

He was in one the biggest Wrestlemania's ever.... so sure.

FormlessOne: That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

Well, Tyson was a big part of a major storyline that returned the WWE to prominence after spending years looking down the barrel of a bankruptcy. He was a major part of the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels feud, and helped to kick off the Austin/Vince McMahon feud. I'd say that deserves a place in the hall of fame.

Way more than Pete Rose and Drew Carey, at any rate.

/in my perfect world, the "celebrity wing" of the WWE HOF would have 3 members: Mike Tyson, Lawrence Taylor, and Mr. T. NOBODY ELSE.

The celebrity wing of the Not Wrestling Hall of Fame (Seriously WWE has chided magazines for saying it's a Wrestling Hall of Fame) will exist as long as Vince insists he's in the same business as movies, TV shows and comic books. He's spent the better part of the last 10 years trying to convince the world that WWE is not a pro wrestling promotion, but an "entertainment company."

Frankly I'm okay with pro wrestling pretending it's a "sport" that basically makes fun of legit sports via worked finishes, crazy characters and long storylines.

Bruno Sammartino isn't in because he doesn't want to be in. Only the willing get in.
What I've heard about Randy Savage is he wouldn't go in unless they elected his dad and brother too as a family like the Von Erichs. I'm not sure if this was Randy's view, or just the view of his survivors.
Warrior and Vince are not on good terms.
Owen's wife will never let Owen get in.
I imagine Roberts isn't in due to the fear of media backlash because of Jake's drug issues, or a fear of him being drunk/drugged during his induction speech.
Vince blames Lex Luger for Elizabeth's death.
Ole Anderson is an asshole who won't do anything if he isn't paid big. He wouldn't show up at Flair's goodbye ceremony on RAW because he wanted money. His multiple sclerosis is also hitting him pretty hard, and he says he won't be able to show up at this year's ceremony.
Chris Benoit won't get in ever because HE MURDERED HIS WIFE AND CHILD.
I have no idea why Demolition isn't in it. Once the Road Warriors got in, Demolition seems like the next obvious tag team choice, followed by the Steiners when Scott is finally done with TNA, the New Age Outlaws, and the Dudleys when they are done with TNA.
Also, I cast a vote for Cyndi Lauper for the "celebrity wing" of the WWE Hall of Fame.

GimpyNip: Tyson should get in for calling Austin 'Cold Stone Steve Austin'

WE WANT ICE CREAM!!
*CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP*

HeartBurnKid: FormlessOne: That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

Well, Tyson was a big part of a major storyline that returned the WWE to prominence after spending years looking down the barrel of a bankruptcy. He was a major part of the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels feud, and helped to kick off the Austin/Vince McMahon feud. I'd say that deserves a place in the hall of fame.

Way more than Pete Rose and Drew Carey, at any rate.

/in my perfect world, the "celebrity wing" of the WWE HOF would have 3 members: Mike Tyson, Lawrence Taylor, and Mr. T. NOBODY ELSE.

Tyson deserves in for the reasons you stated. Taylor deserves in because he won the main event of WM 11 for christ sakes. Mr T was a huge part of the first 2 wrestlemanias and WWE in general in those couple of years.

GimpyNip: Tyson should get in for calling Austin 'Cold Stone Steve Austin'

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Jim from Saint Paul: FormlessOne: You do realize that there isn't a single damned "fight" in WWE, right?

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So, that's a "no" from you?

The Lone Talbot: HeartBurnKid: FormlessOne: That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

Well, Tyson was a big part of a major storyline that returned the WWE to prominence after spending years looking down the barrel of a bankruptcy. He was a major part of the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels feud, and helped to kick off the Austin/Vince McMahon feud. I'd say that deserves a place in the hall of fame.

Way more than Pete Rose and Drew Carey, at any rate.

/in my perfect world, the "celebrity wing" of the WWE HOF would have 3 members: Mike Tyson, Lawrence Taylor, and Mr. T. NOBODY ELSE.

Tyson deserves in for the reasons you stated. Taylor deserves in because he won the main event of WM 11 for christ sakes. Mr T was a huge part of the first 2 wrestlemanias and WWE in general in those couple of years.

You know what really sucks? I heard they wanted to put Mr. T in, but he declined because he was pissed off that Pete Rose got in before him. So Vince's stupid celebrity fellating actually cost them a celebrity induction that would have been justified.

Though I do admit to enjoying Pete Rose's one-sided war against Kane.

HeartBurnKid: FormlessOne: That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

Well, Tyson was a big part of a major storyline that returned the WWE to prominence after spending years looking down the barrel of a bankruptcy. He was a major part of the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels feud, and helped to kick off the Austin/Vince McMahon feud. I'd say that deserves a place in the hall of fame.

Way more than Pete Rose and Drew Carey, at any rate.

/in my perfect world, the "celebrity wing" of the WWE HOF would have 3 members: Mike Tyson, Lawrence Taylor, and Mr. T. NOBODY ELSE.

That's kind of my point. There was a time when professional wrestling didn't have "story lines", and it was treated as a competitive sport. That time passed decades ago, but up until Bonnie Hammer's horrifying partnership with the McMahon nightmare, it wasn't too bad.

Now, wrestling has "story lines", and "story arcs", and choreographed "fights", and manufactured "controversy", and it's used to keep folks occupied while they're sold stuff - it's, in Bonnie Hammer's own words, a "male soap opera."

Yep - I'm looking forward to the point when Scorpio shows up to help Kane and Randy Orton prevent Mikkos Cassadine from using his weather machine to take over the world, starting with Port Charles, in another thrilling episode of "While The World Turnbuckles."

HeartBurnKid: Though I do admit to enjoying Pete Rose's one-sided war against Kane.

Pete really needs to leave Kane alone BTW. Just because views aggression when it comes to foreign affairs is immoral, and the United States should build a foundation of quality federal involvement in the individual American's affairs, rather than an overexerted presence...well that's Kane's right.

FormlessOne: That's kind of my point. There was a time when professional wrestling didn't have "story lines", and it was treated as a competitive sport.

When? 1905?

Does Willard Scott announce your birthday on the Today Show?

Give me a god damn break. Bruno Sammartino used to tag-team with Batman, FFS.

FormlessOne: That's kind of my point. There was a time when professional wrestling didn't have "story lines", and it was treated as a competitive sport.

So a several month long lead-up to a "haircut match" by Gorgeous George, followed by a second lead-up to a match where he bet his wife's hair isn't a "story line"?

Best In The World: As a mixed martial artist
[I specialize in Shenshido, Jeet Kune Do, Goju Ryu Karate, Boxing, and Greeco Roman Wrestling]
I don't have a lot of respect for Mike Tyson. I'm 21 5'9" and 210 lbs. Tyson fought at 5'10" (but I say he's more like 5'8". I've stood next to him & have life size poster of him that my uncle gave me...though, I am not a fan) 220 lbs. Could I take him in tha OCtgon? You better believe it. I bet a lot of MMA fighters could. He wouldn't have lasted in the UFC. He'd be like Kimbo.

I think many MMA heavyweights could have defeated Tyson in his prime. Tyson only beat men who were poisoned by fear. Those inoculated from fear have no fear. That's my credo.

You forgot to run the first few paragraphs through your dialectizer.

FormlessOne: HeartBurnKid: FormlessOne: That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

Well, Tyson was a big part of a major storyline that returned the WWE to prominence after spending years looking down the barrel of a bankruptcy. He was a major part of the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels feud, and helped to kick off the Austin/Vince McMahon feud. I'd say that deserves a place in the hall of fame.

Way more than Pete Rose and Drew Carey, at any rate.

/in my perfect world, the "celebrity wing" of the WWE HOF would have 3 members: Mike Tyson, Lawrence Taylor, and Mr. T. NOBODY ELSE.

That's kind of my point. There was a time when professional wrestling didn't have "story lines", and it was treated as a competitive sport. That time passed decades ago, but up until Bonnie Hammer's horrifying partnership with the McMahon nightmare, it wasn't too bad.

Now, wrestling has "story lines", and "story arcs", and choreographed "fights", and manufactured "controversy", and it's used to keep folks occupied while they're sold stuff - it's, in Bonnie Hammer's own words, a "male soap opera."

Yep - I'm looking forward to the point when Scorpio shows up to help Kane and Randy Orton prevent Mikkos Cassadine from using his weather machine to take over the world, starting with Port Charles, in another thrilling episode of "While The World Turnbuckles."

Stefano DiMera = BUYS

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This is why Tyson is getting in. It is time for the WM media blitz to begin.

If only Iron Mike had died right before taking on Buster Douglass, he would be maybe the great sports legend ever. Now, he's a cartoon.

/Yes - Mike's the Coleridge of boxing

FormlessOne: HeartBurnKid: FormlessOne: That's like the General Hospital Hall of Fame recognizing Sean Connery because he was a fan of secret agents, and General Hospital used to have a secret agent in their show.

Well, Tyson was a big part of a major storyline that returned the WWE to prominence after spending years looking down the barrel of a bankruptcy. He was a major part of the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels feud, and helped to kick off the Austin/Vince McMahon feud. I'd say that deserves a place in the hall of fame.

Way more than Pete Rose and Drew Carey, at any rate.

/in my perfect world, the "celebrity wing" of the WWE HOF would have 3 members: Mike Tyson, Lawrence Taylor, and Mr. T. NOBODY ELSE.

That's kind of my point. There was a time when professional wrestling didn't have "story lines", and it was treated as a competitive sport. That time passed decades ago, but up until Bonnie Hammer's horrifying partnership with the McMahon nightmare, it wasn't too bad.

Now, wrestling has "story lines", and "story arcs", and choreographed "fights", and manufactured "controversy", and it's used to keep folks occupied while they're sold stuff - it's, in Bonnie Hammer's own words, a "male soap opera."

Yep - I'm looking forward to the point when Scorpio shows up to help Kane and Randy Orton prevent Mikkos Cassadine from using his weather machine to take over the world, starting with Port Charles, in another thrilling episode of "While The World Turnbuckles."

It's a little bit fallacious to say pro wrestling didn't have storylines. There used to be feuds that got pretty bitter and personal back in the day. It's just the pretension that it was all real was maintained.

Ring of Honor tries to recapture the sport aspect, but I think they take themselves far too seriously. NWA Hollywood is the best blend of sport/entertainment, in my opinion.

verbaltoxin: Ring of Honor tries to recapture the sport aspect, but I think they take themselves far too seriously. NWA Hollywood is the best blend of sport/entertainment, in my opinion.

The Steen story line is serious? El Generico? They are wrestling heavy but they are far from serious. I have been wanting to check out NWA Hollywood.

Have you ever visited a pig slaughterhouse? It is pretty gross, but incredibly efficient. Nearly every part of the pig is used for something. Nearly. Some few parts simply can not be used for anything and are discarded, to be incinerated and disposed of.

If the world of sports is a pig, some would say that wrestling is the part that gets discarded and incinerated. The part that is simply not useful. To be a member of the HOF in that part only means that you are the most useless individuals in a group of useless individuals.

I disagree with that assessment entirely. If the world of sports is a pig, wrestling would be a beagle in a pig suit. It is not a real pig, it is not seriously even trying to be a pig. Neither is it any sort of attempt at homage. It is simply a stupid dog having a great time dressed up like a pig. To be a member of the HOF in this group means that you are recognizeable as being really good at pretending to be something you are not. Given that definition, I think this is a very great selection of inductees.

Actually, i was trying to make a joke about how every time the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is mentioned, people start screaming about KISS not being in.

However, I will say that KISS was used in a gimmick that lasted the better part of a year. Drew Carey is in there for about 5 minutes of screen time.