Douche!

Because kids don't have part time jobs or work study already?

Seriously, does this cat just not have any idea how folks actually live?

To be fair, his wife at the time was a teacher and bringing in the money. Jackie put gnute through school.

hubiestubert: Because kids don't have part time jobs or work study already?

Seriously, does this cat just not have any idea how folks actually live?

This, plus the cost of tuition and other costs is far, far greater than what someone could bring in with a part time job.

"Students take fewer classes per semester. They take more years to get through. Why? Because they have free money," Gingrich said. "I would tell students: 'Get through as quick as you can. Borrow as little as you can. Have a part-time job.' But that's very different from the culture that has grown up in the last 20 years."

They're taking fewer classes per semester because they're WORKING you d*ckbag. The push is to have them borrow as much as possible, with guaranteed student loans--not guaranteed to get, just guaranteed that you have to pay--and then when hikes go up, you have to get to not one job, but a couple to pay for it, while taking a full course load.

This asshat has no idea what students face, but then again, wasn't real close to the conditions that his fellow students faced when he was in school. Cripes...

Keep it up Newt. That innate dickishness may work for the mouth breathing crowd, but it just offends folks around you.

WorldCitizen: Yeah, I was going to say, a part time job especially on campus MIGHT cover your food costs. MIGHT. I doubt it would cover what the university charges for their meal plan. It wouldn't even come close to touching tuition costs.

I had part time jobs throughout college, and there's no way in hell I would have been able to pay for school with what I made. And if I could have made that much with a part time job, I'd have quit college and went full time.

I worked part time in college. My parents paid my tuition and I paid for everything else.

see, this offends me on a couple of levels. Number one, I worked my ass off during school, while this man was begging Grandma for money. Number two, the girl critter is working her ass off right now during school, and while she's way too young for me, I respect the crap out of her for taking care of business and not taking any handouts. HER Grandmother offered to help her through school, and she DIDN'T take it, because she didn't want to be beholden to anyone.

That's the kind of "kids" that are out there, and to be fair, it is a generation that is learning the lessons of Neocon douchebags like this: that you can't rely on anyone for any help. Of course, these are the kids that these d*ckbags will be looking to administrate their retirement plans, so it should be entertaining when they run up against a wall of heartless m*therf*ckers like my own Gen X ass who will laugh when they cry out for assistance in their Golden Years after years of pissing on anything looking like a safety net since I was in short pants.

It's going to be a interesting as the Boomers retire and suddenly discover that you can't necessarily live on the equity in a house in Boca.

It's going to get ugly, and the sad thing? This pusillanimous little douche is going to be shielded from the fallout of the society that's he's worked so hard to dick over.

Maybe they could get a nice part time job as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs?

hubiestubert: see, this offends me on a couple of levels. Number one, I worked my ass off during school, while this man was begging Grandma for money. Number two, the girl critter is working her ass off right now during school, and while she's way too young for me, I respect the crap out of her for taking care of business and not taking any handouts. HER Grandmother offered to help her through school, and she DIDN'T take it, because she didn't want to be beholden to anyone.

That's the kind of "kids" that are out there, and to be fair, it is a generation that is learning the lessons of Neocon douchebags like this: that you can't rely on anyone for any help. Of course, these are the kids that these d*ckbags will be looking to administrate their retirement plans, so it should be entertaining when they run up against a wall of heartless m*therf*ckers like my own Gen X ass who will laugh when they cry out for assistance in their Golden Years after years of pissing on anything looking like a safety net since I was in short pants.

It's going to be a interesting as the Boomers retire and suddenly discover that you can't necessarily live on the equity in a house in Boca.

It's going to get ugly, and the sad thing? This pusillanimous little douche is going to be shielded from the fallout of the society that's he's worked so hard to dick over.

Again, I must ask. WHY on Earth are you still a Republican? Great, you're a conservative, I get that. But that party isn't conservative.

cameroncrazy1984: To be fair, if the party picks Romney or Gingrich, this is probably my last Primary with them. This is f*cking ridiculous.

I'll vote for Roemer on Super Tuesday, and it won't do him a bit of good, but I'll have at least voted for a man that I think can do the job, and well, and do with dignity for the nation and party.

But these asshats, just make me ashamed.

I worked part-time in college and, in my last year, used that money to pay my tuition after my dad died (went to CUNY which had low tuition so I earned tuition money pretty quick). But it did take me over 4 years to graduate in part due to budget cuts limiting the availability of pre-req classes. My first few semesters it was hard to get even 15 credits. My brother had it even worse. Even taking summer classes and 18 credit workloads at the end he still couldn't get out in 4 because he took so few credits in his freshman year due to unavailability of courses.

In a 1995 profile for Vanity Fair, author Gail Sheehy discovered that Gingrich financed his own education largely via the hard work of this then-wife. When things got tight, finding a job was not high on his to-do list. Sheehy wrote that Gingrich turned first to his adoptive father for help, and then to his biological one

I can see why Gingrich is popular with his voter base - this is exactly in line with the GOP philosophy: live off others, then ask for a bailout. once you've achieved your goals at someone elses' expense, blame them for being fools and abuse your power and authority for personal gain. oh, and make sure nobody else can follow in your footsteps either - competition is for losers.

Anyone under 35 who votes for this man is a fool.
Then again, anyone OVER 35 who votes for him isa fool.

Basically what I'm saying is that anyone whovotes for him is a fool.

He really is a slimy piece of shiat, but we already knew this.

To be fair, if the party picks Romney or Gingrich, this is probably my last Primary with them. This is f*cking ridiculous.

The GOP loses one of the last of it's non farkwit supporters.

I'd like to propose they think about this, but of course not thinking is what has lost them the support of reasonable conservatives.

On the plus side hubs you'll be pleased to find out that Obama is a center right republican who is basically trying to deliver the GOP platform from 1980 so you'll like him.

hubiestubert: Seriously, does this cat just not have any idea how folks actually live?

No, he does not. He has no clue how the vast majority of college students in big state schools work to finance their education. I worked in high school---during my B.A. when my scholarship ran out, worked and taught through my M.A., and taught all but two years of my Ph.D work. Those last two years were teaching 3 sections a term with 100+ students in each section with no assistant. fark Gingrich. He has no clue, no shame, and no chance to earn anything but scorn. Also, his dissertation sucks. There, I said it.

Tigger: To be fair, if the party picks Romney or Gingrich, this is probably my last Primary with them. This is f*cking ridiculous.

The GOP loses one of the last of it's non farkwit supporters.

I'd like to propose they think about this, but of course not thinking is what has lost them the support of reasonable conservatives.

On the plus side hubs you'll be pleased to find out that Obama is a center right republican who is basically trying to deliver the GOP platform from 1980 so you'll like him.

The GOP doesn't care. When Lincoln, Eisenhower and even Reagan (Yes, Reagan. Remember, he raised taxes) are too liberal for this group of farkwits, the GOP has officially lost its shiat. The GOP is imploding and the more infighting they have, the easier it'll be for Obama to get re-elected.

I just can't see a guy who last name looks like 'Grinch' becoming the President of the United States.

GAT_00: Somacandra: 3 sections a term with 100+ students in each section with no assistant.

That's not right.

Honestly, at that point I'd rather get a job outside the university. 3 sections with 300+ students and no support if farking slavery.

cameroncrazy1984:
Again, I must ask. WHY on Earth are you still a Republican? Great, you're a conservative, I get that. But that party isn't conservative.

Tribalism. It's more important to carry the flag than it is to move on even while the tribal elders are screwing you and bleeding you dry. You keep defending the group in the hopes that your loyalty counts for something no matter how low or how depraved they are documented to be. It's like eing Catholic and defending the church over their protection of pedos.

No matter how centric the modern Democratic party is and whose agenda actually matches sanity, tribalism prevents them from making better choices in their better self interest. They keep pulling the lever for the GOP in mindless obedience in hopes they'll change.

It's battered spouse syndrome.

"He beats me because he loves me."

lohphat: Being a part of of a party isn't a guarantee of a vote during an election.

Being part of a party means you get a chance to choose the candidate. And if the party insists on putting someone on the slate that you disagree with, simply being part of the party isn't a guarantee of a vote in the general election.

If you are voting straight party line, no matter the affiliation, and you don't think that person is the best for the job, you're part of the problem. It isn't tribalism that has kept me in the party, it's a belief in certain values and platforms, that are increasingly being abandoned to appeal to the knuckle dragging Religious Right that fears the future, and the Corporatists that fear the present.

But I hoped to help turn the party from that. At least help choose better candidates.

The leadership has abandoned the things that made the Republican Party the right choice. And that saddens me, because the Democrats are not a home for me either.

Maybe the Modern Whigs will shake down better, once the TEA Party nonsense has calmed down...

hubiestubert: I'll vote for Roemer on Super Tuesday, and it won't do him a bit of good, but I'll have at least voted for a man that I think can do the job, and well, and do with dignity for the nation and party.

Good for you. I'm glad to see you're voting your convictions :-)

RandomExcess: Newt is saying that students should try to avoid loans and government handouts and instead rely on their own sources. A part-time job is one of those sources and is a pretty good idea.

except that a part job won't cover the cost of tuition...

RandomExcess: Newt is saying that students should try to avoid loans and government handouts and instead rely on their own sources. A part-time job is one of those sources and is a pretty good idea.

he also blamed the increases in public tuition on luxury dorms and lobster nights at the cafeteria(?), which completely ignores the fact that most of the increases have been due to massive cuts in state funding.

hubiestubert:
But I hoped to help turn the party from that.

As I stated. Battered spouse syndrome.

How bad does it have to get before you leave?

You cling to a belief hat you have the power to chage thm and they sold you out decades ago but you keep bending over. Hint: You don't matter to them -- at all -- other than your party support emboldens them.

Our family left them 15 years ago. You can do the same.

Democrats aren't perfect but they are viable and tend to wat to preserve sane social nets in a post-agrarian modern country.

You can't fine-tune this system but you support those who have a chance of improving the country. 40 years of GOP policies ave bern disastrous. The msty 40 years of post-Depression largely Democratic legislative majority served us pretty well until the GOP dismantled it.

rebelyell2006: So where are the jobs that pay enough for college, that still leave enough time to actually study and attend classes? For that matter, where are those employers who will hire students part time?

that's not what he's saying though. he's saying do whatever you can to minimize your student loan debt: get out as early as possible, keep spending down, and subsidize borrowing with a part time job. this is good advice, no?

hubiestubert: "Students take fewer classes per semester. They take more years to get through. Why? Because they have free money," Gingrich said. "I would tell students: 'Get through as quick as you can. Borrow as little as you can. Have a part-time job.' But that's very different from the culture that has grown up in the last 20 years."

They're taking fewer classes per semester because they're WORKING you d*ckbag. The push is to have them borrow as much as possible, with guaranteed student loans--not guaranteed to get, just guaranteed that you have to pay--and then when hikes go up, you have to get to not one job, but a couple to pay for it, while taking a full course load.

This asshat has no idea what students face, but then again, wasn't real close to the conditions that his fellow students faced when he was in school. Cripes...

Keep it up Newt. That innate dickishness may work for the mouth breathing crowd, but it just offends folks around you.

LOL - nobody forces the student to borrow a penny. And to not pay it back? WTH!

I marvel at the level of expectation from our utes of today. Gimme this. Gimme that! Pay it back?

/when I went to college, there was this work program where you would get a job with an employer in your field. You would work a semester/go to school a semester. It was a bonus if you had a job in the field of your study.

//when did our utes become part of the entitlement crowd

/// Reagan was POTUS and revised the rules for student loans. GASP! If your family was too wealthy, you didn't qualify. If they didn't pay for you edumacation, you got a job waiting tables cause it was good money (and hard work). If you saved every penny you earned, refrained from being a member of the Sunrise club and blowing all your $ on hookers and blow, you could actually save enough money to pay for tuition, room and board for a year.

////granted, this was at a time before the liberals in the universities ran the costs of tuition out the roof

shivashakti: So, if Roemer doesn't get the nomination....as we're all pretty much assured he won't. Will you vote in the general election come November? If so, for whom or what party? Obama?

I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, but I think I might vote for Obama again. Previously, I've said I was voting otherwise due to NDAA, but after reading up more on it, it seems Obama was pretty much forced into signing it.

I'm still not a huge fan of Obama. But since Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucinich aren't running, Obama seems my best bet.

McCain got my vote for the nomination last time around, and I was glad to do so. Of the field, I thought he was the best choice.

He lost that when he lost his damn mind on the Georgian crisis. Palin was a symptom of the problem with his run, and he lost my vote the old fashioned way.

There is no way in 10,000 Hells that I will vote for Romney, even for dogcatcher. There is no way in 10,000,000 Hells, 7 Heavens, and all the Lives and in any incarnation will I vote for Newt Gingrich. They are disastrous choices for the party and the nation. Less a vote for than a vote against clear and present danger to the republic. Romney and Gingrich are both dangerous to the future of the nation, albeit for differing reasons.

It would be nice if there was someone that I did believe in. Johnson isn't that guy--though, he and Huntsman are closer than any of the "frontrunners" that the Idiot Brigade are embracing. I am not a fan of Obama, but I can appreciate that he's the saner choice--and that he has been handed a terrible ship of state, and Romney or Gingrich would just steer us right back towards the rocks...