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Aviation experts warn: don't try to launch your own half-assed "experiments" into space, they could bring down commercial aircrafts
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gopher321
2012-01-29 10:39:36 AM
I was considering launching my cat into space with some helium balloons to see the effect of airlessness on small furry animals, until I read that warning.
DarthBrooks
2012-01-29 10:46:09 AM
This just in: "the sky" is a pretty damn big place.
NFA
2012-01-29 10:52:09 AM
This just in, "Aviation Experts" don't make money off of private experiments.
Marcus Aurelius
2012-01-29 11:09:35 AM
FREEDOM ISN'T FREE
MaudlinMutantMollusk
2012-01-29 11:12:48 AM
Hey
subtard
...
Know what the plural of "aircraft" is?
/apparently not
NewportBarGuy
2012-01-29 11:15:10 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk
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Know what the plural of "aircraft" is?
Hang glid?
Shadow Blasko
2012-01-29 01:56:59 PM
NewportBarGuy
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MaudlinMutantMollusk: Know what the plural of "aircraft" is?
Hang glid?
Slut Bunwallah? is that you?
SwiftFox
2012-01-29 01:58:58 PM
what precautions do the meteorologists take when launching their radiosondes?
bugmn99
2012-01-29 01:59:51 PM
Don't tell me what to do with my sky.
Shadow Blasko
2012-01-29 02:01:53 PM
SwiftFox
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what precautions do the meteorologists take when launching their radiosondes?
Actually, if I recall correctly, it depends on what airspace class you are launching into, but the guys I knew at the NWS Wilmington always called it in before they launched.
mjg
2012-01-29 02:02:39 PM
Get off my sky
Oznog
2012-01-29 02:03:08 PM
"I think in the 25 years that I've been flying I've seen two weather balloons that passed on one side of the aircraft or the other," he said.
Well I see you've covered all the options of every balloon launched at the same time a plane is in the sky, other than the billion-to-one chance of collision.
Better than Lego Man:
Sending a Sushi Roll into Space
(new window)
Why does it stay on the plate? Well, the business it's a promo for IS "Sticky Rice". That being their tie-in.
martissimo
2012-01-29 02:03:28 PM
SwiftFox
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what precautions do the meteorologists take when launching their radiosondes?
they make a phone call and tell em where the fark it's going up
SlothB77
2012-01-29 02:04:20 PM
the guy's name is muhammad. maybe that is sneaky plan all along.
OddPanda
2012-01-29 02:04:33 PM
If we all "own" the sky/air/whatevs and can't expect any privacy in/from it, then no, they can't tell me I can't launch a balloon.
Honest Bender
2012-01-29 02:05:49 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and call massive bullshiat on this. I'm not an expert. I have no basis for my argument. But bullshiat none the less.
stuhayes2010
2012-01-29 02:06:43 PM
But I'm a farker and as you can see from this thread, we are experts on everything from nuclear power to launching aircraft. I'll do what I want.
GizmoToy
2012-01-29 02:07:37 PM
"Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."
Not to sound like a jerk, but do these guys think they're the first amateurs to lift a camera into near space? Because that's kind of what it sounds like. "Ok, we did this. No one else can do it now. Get your own thing to do."
dukwbutter
2012-01-29 02:09:16 PM
"We got very lucky that nothing happened because there is always the possibility that something could go wrong," Ho said.
"Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."
Classic. Like, sure...it's safe for us to do it. We're highly skilled teenagers. But you people at home shouldn't do it. It's not safe for amateurs.
Plus, the "try not to copy us", like they invented the freaking hot air balloon or something. Tons of people have done this before these two nimrods. You can buy all the parts off of eBay for $200-$300. Like they're the freaking Wright Brothers for farks sake. Blow it out your @ss, geeks.
gblive
2012-01-29 02:09:41 PM
The news story is utter nonsense. Hundreds of weather balloons are launched each day from universities, researchers, high schools, and private individuals for experiments. Most of these are from unknown launch sites. Never has a weather balloon caused a commerical aircraft to crash.
martissimo
2012-01-29 02:10:07 PM
stuhayes2010
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But I'm a farker and as you can see from this thread, we are experts on everything from nuclear power to launching aircraft. I'll do what I want.
Here in Vegas one of peoples favorite places for amateur rocketry is like 100% directly in the flight path for approaches into McCarran Airport, the planes come in low enough by that point that you'd have to be blind to launch at the wrong time, but there it is, and not all folks are always sober or anything doing it.
That should be comforting if you fly in!
One Bad Apple
2012-01-29 02:10:21 PM
mjg
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Get off my sky
You can't like, OWN the sky man.
beer4breakfast
2012-01-29 02:12:29 PM
Oh yeah? What if I launch a full ass into space,
subby
?
Unknown_Poltroon
2012-01-29 02:12:59 PM
Yeah, well when they keep their shiat outta my airspace, and from falling on other peoples houses, then we can talk.
Tainted1
2012-01-29 02:13:37 PM
dukwbutter
:
"We got very lucky that nothing happened because there is always the possibility that something could go wrong," Ho said.
"Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."
Classic. Like, sure...it's safe for us to do it. We're highly skilled teenagers. But you people at home shouldn't do it. It's not safe for amateurs.
Plus, the "try not to copy us", like they invented the freaking hot air balloon or something. Tons of people have done this before these two nimrods. You can buy all the parts off of eBay for $200-$300. Like they're the freaking Wright Brothers for farks sake. Blow it out your @ss, geeks.
I suspect they're more speaking to the cooter and cletus crowd.
northgrave
2012-01-29 02:14:12 PM
Sorry Newt
jaytkay
2012-01-29 02:14:42 PM
OddPanda
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If we all "own" the sky/air/whatevs and can't expect any privacy in/from it, then no, they can't tell me I can't launch a balloon.
Don't ever let "them" tell you which side of the road to drive on, either.
FREEDUMB!!
kbotc
2012-01-29 02:15:20 PM
Is it my imagination or did they really just publicly admit "Hey, you can take down an airliner with $200 worth of equipment and a properly timed release!"
The DHS is gonna love having to deal with this...
Feral Duhbya
2012-01-29 02:15:44 PM
I'm going to try a Captain Kirk move, and have the shock wave behind a 747 launch my lawn chair into space.
I'll have a BB gun, so I'll also be in violation of the TSA.
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-29 02:15:56 PM
gopher321
:
I was considering launching my cat into space with some helium balloons to see the effect of airlessness on small furry animals, until I read that warning.
I wonder what would happen if you tied a gerbil to a bunch of helium balloons and just let it go?
Godot42
2012-01-29 02:15:59 PM
Maybe planes will just have to start watching out for balloons. Since when to planes own the sky? They're just going to have to share.
Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash
2012-01-29 02:16:40 PM
Take my love
Take my land
Take me to where I can not stand.
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Hector Remarkable
2012-01-29 02:16:47 PM
Trance750
2012-01-29 02:17:01 PM
Leave the farking up to the professionals
wood_stones
2012-01-29 02:17:26 PM
Alright math nerds - we could calculate the odds of any balloon striking a airplane. I read a guess at 1 Billion to one, but I am guessing that is too high.
First, find out the surface area of a theoretical plain (
not plane
) that exists at an average flying altitude. It will be larger than the surface area of the Earth.
Divide that by the sum of the underside surface areas of all aircraft in the air at any given time. This will be hard to figure out, but some folks have already taken stabs at the number aircraft in the air at a certain time.
You will then have the percentage of our sky that is currently occupied by aircraft. That number will basically be your odds at hitting a aircraft with your balloon.
Things such as flight paths, and areas with greater population density will mess with our numbers. To compensate for this, try to not release a balloon under the landing, or takeoff zone of an airport.
Or, we could listen to the sexperts
Loren
2012-01-29 02:17:33 PM
There are rules about how such craft must be designed, they're specifically designed to make sure that in the event of a collision that the plane will survive it, and also to minimize the chance of a collision.
What they should have done is told people to read up on the regs about balloons before launching such stuff. Given the number of cameras these guys used I'm guessing they broke the rules. (The rules are a lot less strict for sufficiently small packages.)
dukwbutter
2012-01-29 02:17:35 PM
Tainted1
:
I suspect they're more speaking to the cooter and cletus crowd.
Doesn't matter who the fark they're speaking to. It's condescending gibberish from a couple of kids. Absolutely deplorable for them to say that no one else should try it. Like they own the farking skies and, now that they've done it, no one else is allowed to experiment with hot air balloons, because they'd just be copying these dumb Canucks. This is the height of arrogance. Condescending dribble by a couple of stupid kids. Get the freaking cameras and mics away from these two idiots already. Your 15 minutes is over. Crawl back into your moms' basement.
ABQGOD
2012-01-29 02:17:42 PM
"Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."
What? These guys even admitted that they got the idea from copying someone else. They're only getting media coverage because they're teenagers and they're not even the first kids to pull this off either.
libranoelrose
2012-01-29 02:17:50 PM
What an aviation expert might look like:
smimmy
2012-01-29 02:18:58 PM
They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash!
/obligatory
houginator
2012-01-29 02:19:10 PM
"Getting awful crowded in my sky." - Malcolm Reynolds
skinink
2012-01-29 02:19:34 PM
Fark you all, nobody tells me what to do with my son!
martissimo
2012-01-29 02:19:36 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
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gopher321: I was considering launching my cat into space with some helium balloons to see the effect of airlessness on small furry animals, until I read that warning.
I wonder what would happen if you tied a gerbil to a bunch of helium balloons and just let it go?
Depends on the balloons, most would pop before it dies and it would fall to its death, some would freeze or asphyxiate the lil bugger though
cuzsis
2012-01-29 02:19:51 PM
You can't take the sky from me.
clear_prop
2012-01-29 02:21:04 PM
I've never seen a weather balloon in flight, but I've seen clusters of small helium balloons (the kind used for advertising displays) at 3500ft many times. The small helium balloons seem to hang around at 3-4000ft. They are small enough that there is no reaction time. They go from invisible to 'wtf is that?' to gone in a few seconds.
Enigmamf
2012-01-29 02:21:22 PM
So they can take the sky away from me?
dukwbutter
2012-01-29 02:21:25 PM
ABQGOD
:
What? These guys even admitted that they got the idea from copying someone else. They're only getting media coverage because they're teenagers and they're not even the first kids to pull this off either.
This is the definition of "chutzpah". The height of arrogance. Now that we've done it, the world can stop experimenting. Nothing to see here. We invented the hot air balloon. We own the skies. Please return to your duties as assigned...
Now I'm going to do it just to spite these little whiny urchins.
Rabbitgod
2012-01-29 02:21:28 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk
:
Hey subtard...
Know what the plural of "aircraft" is?
/apparently not
Canton
2012-01-29 02:21:31 PM
One Bad Apple
:
mjg: Get off my sky
You can't like, OWN the sky man.
"I don't care, I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me."
(new window)
/obligatory?
iscariot40
2012-01-29 02:22:05 PM
Yup, just like trucks crash all the time after running into a fly.
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