If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Toronto Star)   Aviation experts warn: don't try to launch your own half-assed "experiments" into space, they could bring down commercial aircrafts   (thestar.com) divider line 141
    More: Followup, Lego Minifigure, Transport Canada, Dr. Oz, yoga class, Lego, birdshot, aircraft, experiments  
•       •       •

13051 clicks; posted to Main » on 29 Jan 2012 at 1:56 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



141 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-01-29 02:22:11 PM  

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Take my love
Take my land
Take me to where I can not stand.

I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me


Dangit, if I had just hit Submit instead of googling and reading an article about Firefly, I would have beat you to it...
 
2012-01-29 02:22:36 PM  

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Take my love
Take my land
Take me to where I can not stand.

I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me


Heh. Great minds...
 
2012-01-29 02:22:40 PM  
Actually, I've been waiting (and hoping) for these amateur rocket enthusiasts to launch one into space.

I figure if these guys, who often show some astonishing sophistication (no -- not the ones who launch flying outhouses or Tiki Huts) in their designs and capabilities, do it, then more will do the same and we'll get back into space faster.

That winner of the space plane award who actually did manage to get into zero-G and had plans to sell trips seems to have done nothing since then. His ship made one historical voyage and nothing has been heard of it since.

These guys use solid rocket motors, but I figure someone will come up with a 'real' one, probably designed to burn better, cheaper fuel. After all, in the 60's you could actually buy a jet engine for your bike. It burned liquid fuel and was about 3 feet long. The rocket engine for a military missile, at least one type, is only about 8 inches long and puts out one helluva thrust using liquid fuel. (I saw it on a 'Pickers' show.)

I've seen these 'backyard' rocketeers turn out rockets which NASA would love and are on par with anything the military has.

I think it would be so great if one of these guys managed to not only get a rocket into orbit but maybe at least out into deep space.
 
2012-01-29 02:23:10 PM  
dukwbutter: It's condescending gibberish from a couple of kids. Absolutely deplorable for them to say that no one else should try it.

My guess is they were strongly pressured to include that as part of their public statements.
 
2012-01-29 02:24:46 PM  
Right. The Nanny State wants us to stop firing off rockets at random because it might bring down planeloads of people. Oh, boo hoo! Nanny State. Boot-strapy. Firefly rules! Screw the global treaties, nobody owns space but nerds and geeks.

I must watch Firefly some day. It is kicking around here some where.

A couple of guys from my native province of New Brunswick sent up a foam beer cooler. I think they should be honourary Farkers for their choice of space project. Well, one of them was a McCain of the McCain Group frozen foods dynasty. I knew the McCain's have their own private airport, but I had no idea they were interested in space. Well, near space. The cooler went up about 30 km, which is a bit less than a third of the way to space, but enough to take down a stratosphere-cruising jet liner.

If McCains discover they can quick-freeze vegetables in space, there goes their plants on the ground. Progress may be profitable but it doesn't necessarily mean jobs for the masses.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/18/an-n-b-beer-coolers-space-ody s sey/
 
2012-01-29 02:24:50 PM  

wood_stones: First, find out the surface area of a theoretical plain ( not plane) that exists at an average flying altitude. It will be larger than the surface area of the Earth.


Wouldn't you have to subtract the plain that stretches over the ocean? Because while you can fly over the ocean, you cannot launch a weather balloon from the ocean. Well you could, but you wouldn't.
 
GBB
2012-01-29 02:25:31 PM  
TFA: "I think in the 25 years that I've been flying I've seen two weather balloons that passed on one side of the aircraft or the other," he said

But not both?
 
2012-01-29 02:25:39 PM  

THX 1138: dukwbutter: It's condescending gibberish from a couple of kids. Absolutely deplorable for them to say that no one else should try it.

My guess is they were strongly pressured to include that as part of their public statements.


You kids say nobody else should try this or will charge you with.... well, we don't have any legal grounds to charge you kids with anything, but believe you me, we'll make something up
 
2012-01-29 02:26:52 PM  

THX 1138: My guess is they were strongly pressured to include that as part of their public statements.


It's still deplorable for people who actually did something interesting to turn around and try to warn other people not to do it. If they're taking the lines from someone else, then they're puppets and sycophants. If they came up with it on their own, then they're killjoys out to crush other peoples' dreams.
 
GBB
2012-01-29 02:28:04 PM  

GizmoToy: "Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."

Not to sound like a jerk, but do these guys think they're the first amateurs to lift a camera into near space? Because that's kind of what it sounds like. "Ok, we did this. No one else can do it now. Get your own thing to do."


When you were a kid, did you ever do anything mean and was told to say you're sorry??
Same thing. They don't care if you copy them; their "parents (authority media, whatever)" told them to tell you not to. You think they called a press conference because they were concerned for copycats??
 
2012-01-29 02:28:58 PM  
Payload of an 8' diameter balloon is less than 1kg

Canadian geese which are farking everywhere weigh about 5kg

The empty weight of a tiny jet like a G5 is 21,000kg

IOW, STFU CFAA
 
2012-01-29 02:29:35 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-29 02:30:21 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: wood_stones: First, find out the surface area of a theoretical plain ( not plane) that exists at an average flying altitude. It will be larger than the surface area of the Earth.

Wouldn't you have to subtract the plain that stretches over the ocean? Because while you can fly over the ocean, you cannot launch a weather balloon from the ocean. Well you could, but you wouldn't.


screw you! I do what I want
 
2012-01-29 02:30:57 PM  

Rik01: Actually, I've been waiting (and hoping) for these amateur rocket enthusiasts to launch one into space.

I figure if these guys, who often show some astonishing sophistication (no -- not the ones who launch flying outhouses or Tiki Huts) in their designs and capabilities, do it, then more will do the same and we'll get back into space faster.

That winner of the space plane award who actually did manage to get into zero-G and had plans to sell trips seems to have done nothing since then. His ship made one historical voyage and nothing has been heard of it since.

These guys use solid rocket motors, but I figure someone will come up with a 'real' one, probably designed to burn better, cheaper fuel. After all, in the 60's you could actually buy a jet engine for your bike. It burned liquid fuel and was about 3 feet long. The rocket engine for a military missile, at least one type, is only about 8 inches long and puts out one helluva thrust using liquid fuel. (I saw it on a 'Pickers' show.)

I've seen these 'backyard' rocketeers turn out rockets which NASA would love and are on par with anything the military has.

I think it would be so great if one of these guys managed to not only get a rocket into orbit but maybe at least out into deep space.


Scaled Composites (new window)
 
2012-01-29 02:31:24 PM  
Did someone say balloons?

www.moviespad.com
 
2012-01-29 02:31:56 PM  

THX 1138: dukwbutter: It's condescending gibberish from a couple of kids. Absolutely deplorable for them to say that no one else should try it.

My guess is they were strongly pressured to include that as part of their public statements.


Coming to this conclusion was much farther down the thread than I expected.

Oh, my.
 
2012-01-29 02:32:55 PM  

Oznog: "I think in the 25 years that I've been flying I've seen two weather balloons that passed on one side of the aircraft or the other," he said.

Well I see you've covered all the options of every balloon launched at the same time a plane is in the sky, other than the billion-to-one chance of collision.

Better than Lego Man: Sending a Sushi Roll into Space (new window)

Why does it stay on the plate? Well, the business it's a promo for IS "Sticky Rice". That being their tie-in.


Its a great place, but to be honest, there is better sushi to be had in town
 
2012-01-29 02:33:46 PM  

Rik01: That winner of the space plane award who actually did manage to get into zero-G and had plans to sell trips seems to have done nothing since then. His ship made one historical voyage and nothing has been heard of it since.


Um... it was purchased by Virgin who launched Virgin Galactic which is building the infrastructure required to start a commercial space-tourism business. It's all over the headlines.
 
2012-01-29 02:33:55 PM  
Standard news cycle:

1) report human interest story on stunt
2) report mass media attention on stunt as a new story
3) have expert come in and say why doing stunt is a bad idea

Only thing left would be if there's a copycat after this to complete it. Otherwise, we're pretty much done here.
 
2012-01-29 02:35:06 PM  
just get a waiver from the faa...a little paperwork to do, but when you do plow into an airbus, its the pilots fault.
 
2012-01-29 02:36:02 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
Approve of this message.
 
2012-01-29 02:37:04 PM  

four95: Did someone say balloons?

[www.moviespad.com image 640x1089]


i42.tinypic.com
 
2012-01-29 02:38:03 PM  
We live in a restricted airspace with military jets, drones overhead often and a live fire bombing range just up the road the Air Force uses the ever loving living tar out of. So yeah, I'm not launching anything.

/Sound of freedom
 
2012-01-29 02:38:04 PM  
static.myce.com

"The FAA: We're not happy until YOU'RE not happy!"
 
2012-01-29 02:38:15 PM  

fireside68: THX 1138: dukwbutter: It's condescending gibberish from a couple of kids. Absolutely deplorable for them to say that no one else should try it.

My guess is they were strongly pressured to include that as part of their public statements.

Coming to this conclusion was much farther down the thread than I expected.

Oh, my.


They just didn't want to get jammed up with the parents and "authorities"

You pay a lot for a plane ticket. It might be nice to have a pilot awake and aware of their surroundings. Instead of missing the farkin' airport by half a hour or so.

Just a thought
 
2012-01-29 02:39:00 PM  

t3knomanser: Um... it was purchased by Virgin who launched Virgin Galactic which is building the infrastructure required to start a commercial space-tourism business. It's all over the headlines.


Didn't you read his post? NOTHING has been heard of it since! How dare you contradict his retardation and proud ignorance.

I also love how NASA would be all over backyard rocketeers, because, you know, they don't do or fund any actual rocket research, or hire anyone who knows anything about rockets. Maybe just a couple billion a year. Peanuts.

And yeah, Rutan is a 'backyard rocketeer'. OK.
 
2012-01-29 02:39:12 PM  
dukwbutter
Doesn't matter who the fark they're speaking to. It's condescending gibberish from a couple of kids. Absolutely deplorable for them to say that no one else should try it.


Oh please.
I think the odds are pretty good that someone thinking of areas with lots of air traffic asked them to add a "kids, please don't try this at home" line and they added the suggestion to find some other interesting thing to do instead.
 
2012-01-29 02:39:35 PM  

libranoelrose: four95: Did someone say balloons?

[www.moviespad.com image 640x1089]

[i42.tinypic.com image 300x450]


well, that's a new one to me, I love it!
 
2012-01-29 02:42:26 PM  
When two years ago a camera company launched a chair to show their cameras off, it was kinda cool.

Two years and a few hundred high school science experiments and dozens of youtube videos later, two kids get their moment in the sun, illicit both a room full of news reporters and a warming from an aviation expert when they launch a Lego dude. I guess the Lego really puts the amazing up in this!

WHAT ABOUT TEH STAR WARS?
 
2012-01-29 02:45:06 PM  

Bacontastesgood: Payload of an 8' diameter balloon is less than 1kg

Canadian geese which are farking everywhere weigh about 5kg

The empty weight of a tiny jet like a G5 is 21,000kg

IOW, STFU CFAA


wtf are you getting your numbers from, a 8 foot balloon will hold several hundred square feet of helium and lift like 15 lbs, you could probably use google or something if you need to on that, terms like "helium balloon lift calculator" for instance
 
2012-01-29 02:46:15 PM  

Rik01: These guys use solid rocket motors, but I figure someone will come up with a 'real' one...


What solid fuel rockets might look like.

upload.wikimedia.org
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-29 02:51:53 PM  
That does it. I'm building a giant net above my place. Anything that flies in, I'm keepin'
 
2012-01-29 02:54:12 PM  

jaytkay: Rik01: These guys use solid rocket motors, but I figure someone will come up with a 'real' one...

What solid fuel rockets might look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 324x479]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x479]


point, counterpoint

img26.imageshack.us
 
2012-01-29 02:56:15 PM  

GizmoToy: "Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."

Not to sound like a jerk, but do these guys think they're the first amateurs to lift a camera into near space? Because that's kind of what it sounds like. "Ok, we did this. No one else can do it now. Get your own thing to do."


Sounds more like they just got out of a meeting where their parents got read the riot act, and have been scared shytless by The Authorities.
 
2012-01-29 02:59:00 PM  

dukwbutter: THX 1138: My guess is they were strongly pressured to include that as part of their public statements.

It's still deplorable for people who actually did something interesting to turn around and try to warn other people not to do it. If they're taking the lines from someone else, then they're puppets and sycophants. If they came up with it on their own, then they're killjoys out to crush other peoples' dreams.


They're children.

Get your head out of your ass.
 
2012-01-29 02:59:17 PM  

Oznog:

Better than Lego Man: Sending a Sushi Roll into Space (new window)

Why does it stay on the plate?
Well, the business it's a promo for IS "Sticky Rice". That being their tie-in.



Because it's lacquered in place, that "sushi" is a edible as the plate, with a higher plastic content.
 
2012-01-29 03:03:46 PM  

proteon: When two years ago a camera company launched a chair to show their cameras off, it was kinda cool.

Two years and a few hundred high school science experiments and dozens of youtube videos later, two kids get their moment in the sun, illicit both a room full of news reporters and a warming from an aviation expert when they launch a Lego dude. I guess the Lego really puts the amazing up in this!

WHAT ABOUT TEH STAR WARS?


wat
 
2012-01-29 03:05:00 PM  

martissimo: jaytkay: Rik01: These guys use solid rocket motors, but I figure someone will come up with a 'real' one...

What solid fuel rockets might look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 324x479]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x479]

point, counterpoint

[img26.imageshack.us image 419x324]


counter-counter point

You know who else preferred liquid fueled rockets?
 
2012-01-29 03:12:39 PM  

GBB: GizmoToy: "Try not to copy us," Ho said. "Pursue other creative interests and do your own thing and follow the rules."

Not to sound like a jerk, but do these guys think they're the first amateurs to lift a camera into near space? Because that's kind of what it sounds like. "Ok, we did this. No one else can do it now. Get your own thing to do."

When you were a kid, did you ever do anything mean and was told to say you're sorry??
Same thing. They don't care if you copy them; their "parents (authority media, whatever)" told them to tell you not to. You think they called a press conference because they were concerned for copycats??


That. Because they already have the ear of those who'd be most like likely to duplicate their stunt, they're the logical choice of people to tell them not to do this thing the government would prefer people not to do. It's not like they're laying claim to the science of balloon observation or being arrogant, just passing on a message from your friendly national aviation authority.
 
2012-01-29 03:14:19 PM  
I was merely implying that if people were going to go this ape shaite over a Lego, just imagine the reaction had it been a Star Wars Lego. Or say a My Little Pony.
 
2012-01-29 03:19:00 PM  

jaytkay: martissimo: jaytkay: Rik01: These guys use solid rocket motors, but I figure someone will come up with a 'real' one...

What solid fuel rockets might look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 324x479]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x479]

point, counterpoint

[img26.imageshack.us image 419x324]

counter-counter point

You know who else preferred liquid fueled rockets?


haha, yeah there is that.

My father and mother both worked for Rockwell (one at Rocketdyne where they tested the liquid motors, one at a place that later became a Boeing gig) though and in the Space Shuttle program, heck my father even got flown to the Cape to be honored at a launch for his work, and let me tell you they both held their breath till those two cans of explosives came off even before the Challenger every time, it was no secret that they were a weakness from day 1
 
2012-01-29 03:20:17 PM  
When I was a kid we lived really close to an airport. One of the neighbors went to the store and bought a cheapie kite and like 10 spools of string. He got the kite up then let out string until it got to the end of a spool then tie the next spool on and repeat. It was really high up when a jet flew by really close to it. The kite did a couple of swirling loops then the string went slack and the kite floated away. Really quick he started running through the neighborhood spooling up the string and about 15 minutes later a truck drove through the neighborhood really slow with an FAA logo on it. He never flew a kite again.

/CSB
 
2012-01-29 03:23:52 PM  
ultimatereviews.co.uk
 
2012-01-29 03:24:14 PM  

Oznog: Well I see you've covered all the options of every balloon launched at the same time a plane is in the sky, other than the billion-to-one chance of collision.


I'd be surprised if the odds were even that good. Another thing for uninformed people to get outraged over.

/Im worried the sun could explode any second.
 
2012-01-29 03:31:09 PM  
What a couple of HOSERS.
 
2012-01-29 03:32:05 PM  

gopher321: I was considering launching my cat into space with some helium balloons to see the effect of airlessness on small furry animals, until I read that warning.


You can have mine.

For science!
 
2012-01-29 03:32:59 PM  

Kanemano: Oznog:

Better than Lego Man: Sending a Sushi Roll into Space (new window)

Why does it stay on the plate? Well, the business it's a promo for IS "Sticky Rice". That being their tie-in.


Because it's lacquered in place, that "sushi" is a edible as the plate, with a higher plastic content.


Now, now, the sushi there isn't THAT bad, its just that its more of a hipster hang out place that sells more PBR than sake.
I really perfer carytown sushi down the road ways.
 
2012-01-29 03:33:09 PM  

gblive: The news story is utter nonsense. Hundreds of weather balloons are launched each day from universities, researchers, high schools, and private individuals for experiments. Most of these are from unknown launch sites. Never has a weather balloon caused a commerical aircraft to crash.


I'm willing to try.

For science!
 
2012-01-29 03:34:31 PM  

martissimo: My father and mother both worked for Rockwell (one at Rocketdyne where they tested the liquid motors, one at a place that later became a Boeing gig) though and in the Space Shuttle program, heck my father even got flown to the Cape to be honored at a launch for his work, and let me tell you they both held their breath till those two cans of explosives came off even before the Challenger every time, it was no secret that they were a weakness from day 1


I knew a photographer hired to shoot the Morton Thiokol annual report in 1986. It was largely a Space Shuttle brochure - "Look here! We helped make the boosters! Woo hoo, look at us!!!"

Oops.
 
2012-01-29 03:35:21 PM  

austin_millbarge:

/Im worried the sun could explode any second.



I'm worried it might stop doing that.
 
Displayed 50 of 141 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report