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(Daily Kos)   As Occupy Oakland protesters storm city hall the Oakland cops roll out the tank..wtf a tank ? really?   (dailykos.com ) divider line
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2012-01-29 03:24:04 PM  

Sabyen91: Ahh, right wingers hoping for a bloodbath. Wonderful people.


Or, "Ahh, left wingers hoping slowly ratchet up their antics until they provoke a reaction, so they can get in the news as peaceful protests just aren't interesting to cover or exciting to be in. Wonderful people."

/both kinda true
//c'mon, you know they both are.
 
2012-01-29 03:24:46 PM  
Is there a worse group of complete scum than tje Oakland PD?
 
2012-01-29 03:25:03 PM  
For those of you that live outside the Bay Area, here's how things like this go down:

Oakland Residents: This is unfair. We must protest this in a calm and peaceful manner
Berkeley Students: You tell 'em, man! The only way to win is to overthrow the system!
Oakland Residents: No, that's not what we said...we need to protest to change the system, not destroy it...
Berkeley Students: FARK YA! FREEDOM!!!! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows*
Oakland Police: You need to disperse now!
Oakland Residents: But we didn't....
Berkeley Students: *running back to Berkeley* Fight the good fight! Power to the People!
Oakland Police: DISPERSE NOW!
Oakland Residents: But...
Oakland Gangs: Oh, shiat jus' got real! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows* FARK TH' PO'PO!!!!
Oakland Police: Tear gas them all and let God sort 'em out...
Oakland Residents: .....
 
2012-01-29 03:26:39 PM  

Sagus: Readysteadystop: I've said this before, but I can say it again: USGI Armor-Piercing .30-06 can be had at any gun show.

An A.P. 30/06 won't hardly scratch the paint on it. You'll need an law rocket or an rpg 7 to knock that out. Not easily found on the streets on america, enjoy your Beotch slap O.W.S.


Blackwater Grizzly LRAP. Serious business.

Link (new window)
 
2012-01-29 03:26:55 PM  

Sir Roderick Glossop: Sabyen91: Ahh, right wingers hoping for a bloodbath. Wonderful people.

Or, "Ahh, left wingers hoping slowly ratchet up their antics until they provoke a reaction, so they can get in the news as peaceful protests just aren't interesting to cover or exciting to be in. Wonderful people."

/both kinda true
//c'mon, you know they both are.


Provoke a reaction? In Oakland? The reaction came before any provocation there. farking goons in that PD.
 
2012-01-29 03:27:43 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: For those of you that live outside the Bay Area, here's how things like this go down:

Oakland Residents: This is unfair. We must protest this in a calm and peaceful manner
Berkeley Students: You tell 'em, man! The only way to win is to overthrow the system!
Oakland Residents: No, that's not what we said...we need to protest to change the system, not destroy it...
Berkeley Students: FARK YA! FREEDOM!!!! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows*
Oakland Police: You need to disperse now!
Oakland Residents: But we didn't....
Berkeley Students: *running back to Berkeley* Fight the good fight! Power to the People!
Oakland Police: DISPERSE NOW!
Oakland Residents: But...
Oakland Gangs: Oh, shiat jus' got real! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows* FARK TH' PO'PO!!!!
Oakland Police: Tear gas them all and let God sort 'em out...
Oakland Residents: .....


+ 1 for smart.
 
2012-01-29 03:27:47 PM  

cmb53208: Is there a worse group of complete scum than tje Oakland PD?


Looks like the conservatives were right about Iraq.
We're not fighting the terrorists over there, so now they're in the streets of Oakland assaulting civilians with tear gas and beanbag shotguns.
 
2012-01-29 03:30:11 PM  

gopher321: Looks like the police have themselves an R.V...

/Oh, the quarterback is toast!


Came for Die Hard reference. Leaving bloodied and bruised.
 
2012-01-29 03:31:36 PM  
People are starving, in horrible debt, and we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets. This is why America is farked in the head.
 
2012-01-29 03:34:12 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets.


nothing wrong with beating up hippies, and what do you have against souped-up rvs?
 
2012-01-29 03:35:05 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: People are starving, in horrible debt, and we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets. This is why America is farked in the head.


Not the carrot, but the stick.
The compromises and concessions to keep things smooth are increasingly go away. Instead of decreasing the burden of debt the players are going all in to suck every last drop of blood.
Austerity, foreclosures, layoffs, and other forms of class warfare are the cry of the day from the upper class.
Don't expect bills or compromises, expect batons and cops.
 
2012-01-29 03:35:28 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: People are starving, in horrible debt, and we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets. This is why America is farked in the head.


No, that's what makes America farking awesome!

America, fark yeah!
 
2012-01-29 03:36:02 PM  
Here's a video showing exactly how to support your local occupier. Especially at 2:00 am.

/Cheers!
 
2012-01-29 03:36:14 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: People are starving, in horrible debt, and we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets. This is why America is farked in the head.


And some folks are cheering it on. That's the part that has me scratching my head. At what point do you start cheering for the violent suppression of the rights to assembly and speech.

Liberty gets messy sometimes. If you want order you'd probably be happier with authoritarianism.
 
2012-01-29 03:36:26 PM  

Sir Roderick Glossop: RoyFokker'sGhost: For those of you that live outside the Bay Area, here's how things like this go down:

Oakland Residents: This is unfair. We must protest this in a calm and peaceful manner
Berkeley Students: You tell 'em, man! The only way to win is to overthrow the system!
Oakland Residents: No, that's not what we said...we need to protest to change the system, not destroy it...
Berkeley Students: FARK YA! FREEDOM!!!! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows*
Oakland Police: You need to disperse now!
Oakland Residents: But we didn't....
Berkeley Students: *running back to Berkeley* Fight the good fight! Power to the People!
Oakland Police: DISPERSE NOW!
Oakland Residents: But...
Oakland Gangs: Oh, shiat jus' got real! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows* FARK TH' PO'PO!!!!
Oakland Police: Tear gas them all and let God sort 'em out...
Oakland Residents: .....

+ 1 for smart.


Yep. A lot of this stuff went down right across the street from me, I had helicopter lights in my window all night.
 
2012-01-29 03:38:07 PM  

Sabyen91: Provoke a reaction? In Oakland? The reaction came before any provocation there. farking goons in that PD.


Considering I just got roped into going to a friend's kid's dance recital, I would gladly take a beanbag to the small of the back or a face full of CS than what I'm doing the rest of the afternoon.

/godammmitsomuch
 
2012-01-29 03:38:42 PM  

Tatsuma: Guntram Shatterhand: we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets.

nothing wrong with beating up hippies, and what do you have against souped-up rvs?


What about jews? Can we beat up jews too? Why single out just one group of people??? Shouldn't we be entitled to beat up anyone who has a world view that we don't agree with??
 
2012-01-29 03:39:29 PM  

Tatsuma: Guntram Shatterhand: we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets.

nothing wrong with beating up hippies, and what do you have against souped-up rvs?


Thanks for providing an example of how a persistent culture of victimhood eventually adopts the methods and attitudes of their former oppressors.

i393.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-29 03:39:49 PM  

Tatsuma: Guntram Shatterhand: we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets.

nothing wrong with beating up hippies, and what do you have against souped-up rvs?


Hippies being unemployed people that spend all day with spiritual studies.

That sounds a lot like a typical Orthodox Jew to me, Tats. Virtually indistinguishable. You sure you're OK with this?
 
2012-01-29 03:40:20 PM  

BravadoGT: [cdn.newsday.com image 600x400]

"God bless them for their spontaneity. It's young, it's spontaneous, it's focused and it's going to be effective."

--Nancy Pelosi


For the last couple of months, Senator Rumson has suggested that being President of this country was, to a certain extent, about character. And although I've not been willing to engage in his attacks on me, I have been here three years and three days, and I can tell you without hesitation: Being President of this country is entirely about character.

For the record, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU, but the more important question is "Why aren't you, Bob?" Now this is an organization whose sole purpose is to defend the Bill of Rights, so it naturally begs the question, why would a senator, his party's most powerful spokesman and a candidate for President, choose to reject upholding the constitution? Now if you can answer that question, folks, then you're smarter than I am, because I didn't understand it until a few hours ago.

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.

We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. You gather a group of middle age, middle class, middle income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family, and American values and character, and you wave an old photo of the President's girlfriend and you scream about patriotism. You tell them she's to blame for their lot in life. And you go on television and you call her a whore.


We've got serious problems, and we need serious people. And if you want to talk about character, Bob, you'd better come at me with more than a burning flag and a membership card. If you want to talk about character and American values, fine. Just tell me where and when, and I'll show up. This a time for serious people, Bob, and your fifteen minutes are up.
 
2012-01-29 03:41:13 PM  

Tatsuma: Guntram Shatterhand: we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets.

nothing wrong with beating up hippies, and what do you have against souped-up rvs?


I know, screw those hippies

www.gilad.co.uk
 
2012-01-29 03:41:28 PM  

ultraholland: [www.thepaltrysapien.com image 300x133]

Send in the car.


Shakes tiny fist!
 
2012-01-29 03:43:04 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Guntram Shatterhand: People are starving, in horrible debt, and we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets. This is why America is farked in the head.

And some folks are cheering it on. That's the part that has me scratching my head. At what point do you start cheering for the violent suppression of the rights to assembly and speech.


Honestly, what gets me the most is how they believe that people should have the right to own whatever armaments they want, including assault rifles and military-grade vehicles. You gotta be able to overthrow a corrupt government after all. But as soon as somebody makes veiled overtures at using arms to overthrow the government, it's all "Whoa, hold on there buddy, we didn't mean overthrow THIS government!"
 
2012-01-29 03:46:11 PM  

m2313: Not the carrot, but the stick.


Its all fun and games until people get cold AND hungry. Till that happens it will only make for amusing TV. Long as politicians can keep the people fed on Micky'D's and watching primetime in cheap housing we will have no progress one way or the other.
Should be fun to watch the new generation scream and cry at the wall over how the world works though.
 
2012-01-29 03:46:28 PM  
Damn those Rethuglicans and their big-business masters; why do they hate free speech?
 
2012-01-29 03:47:04 PM  
i552.photobucket.com

Mother of the Year Candidate right here.

//seriously though, give 'em hell, Oakland PD
 
2012-01-29 03:47:09 PM  
From what I heard, they arrested 3 journalists last night. That totally makes Oakland safer, not to mention resolves the income gap crisis in America.
 
2012-01-29 03:47:20 PM  

Serious Black: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Guntram Shatterhand: People are starving, in horrible debt, and we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets. This is why America is farked in the head.

And some folks are cheering it on. That's the part that has me scratching my head. At what point do you start cheering for the violent suppression of the rights to assembly and speech.

Honestly, what gets me the most is how they believe that people should have the right to own whatever armaments they want, including assault rifles and military-grade vehicles. You gotta be able to overthrow a corrupt government after all. But as soon as somebody makes veiled overtures at using arms to overthrow the government, it's all "Whoa, hold on there buddy, we didn't mean overthrow THIS government!"


It's wallpaper. It's all wallpaper. There's a sizable portion of the populace that is not only fine with but demands a fundamentally unresponsive, hierarchical and highly authoritarian government regime with a democratic and liberal paint job. The idea of freedom is far more important than the actual fact; the actual fact, in many cases, is really, really threatening.
 
2012-01-29 03:49:07 PM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: For the record, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU, but the more important question is "Why aren't you, Bob?"


I was a card-carrying member of the ACLU until they decided to sell my phone number to some asshole company that thought it would be a good idea to call me four times a day to remind me to renew.

Guess what? I counter-harassed that company until they gave up and will never donate another dime to the ACLU again. Too bad, because I like what they stand for -- except for that part about treating donors like shiat.
 
2012-01-29 03:57:57 PM  

CitizensUnited: [i552.photobucket.com image 426x640]

Mother of the Year Candidate right here.

//seriously though, give 'em hell, Oakland PD


How come Mom gets a filter, but daughter doesn't? That mask isn't going to protect the girl from tear gas without a filter.
 
2012-01-29 03:58:26 PM  
Lovely. And now the right-wing propaganda machine is going to double-down with Occupiers relieving themselves on cop cars and burning flags without so much as detailing that the actions were carried out by a select group of tools and that the actions are not representative of the movement as a whole.

/Not that I condone burning flags, mind you
 
2012-01-29 03:58:34 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: For those of you that live outside the Bay Area, here's how things like this go down:

Oakland Residents: This is unfair. We must protest this in a calm and peaceful manner
Berkeley Students: You tell 'em, man! The only way to win is to overthrow the system!
Oakland Residents: No, that's not what we said...we need to protest to change the system, not destroy it...
Berkeley Students: FARK YA! FREEDOM!!!! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows*
Oakland Police: You need to disperse now!
Oakland Residents: But we didn't....
Berkeley Students: *running back to Berkeley* Fight the good fight! Power to the People!
Oakland Police: DISPERSE NOW!
Oakland Residents: But...
Oakland Gangs: Oh, shiat jus' got real! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows* FARK TH' PO'PO!!!!
Oakland Police: Tear gas them all and let God sort 'em out...
Oakland Residents: .....


A lot of the violent hoodlums come from Richmond as well.
 
2012-01-29 04:01:56 PM  

Tatsuma: nothing wrong with beating up hippiesjews


Wow, you're right Marcus, that works just as well.
 
2012-01-29 04:04:17 PM  

ArtosRC: Not that I condone burning flags, mind you


Why not? When it comes down to it, the flag is just a bit of cloth. I'd rather we heated our homes with burning flags than violate the principles that bit of cloth is supposed to represent.
 
2012-01-29 04:05:28 PM  

ArtosRC: Lovely. And now the right-wing propaganda machine is going to double-down with Occupiers relieving themselves on cop cars and burning flags without so much as detailing that the actions were carried out by a select group of tools and that the actions are not representative of the movement as a whole.

/Not that I condone burning flags, mind you


Only 99% of the OWS acted like violent, destructive, trespassing, anti-semitic, rapist douchebags! It's not fair to generalize all of them that way!
 
2012-01-29 04:06:01 PM  

CitizensUnited: //seriously though, give 'em hell, Oakland PD


2011-12-24 20:49:12
 
2012-01-29 04:06:05 PM  

beer4breakfast: RoyFokker'sGhost: For those of you that live outside the Bay Area, here's how things like this go down:

Oakland Residents: This is unfair. We must protest this in a calm and peaceful manner
Berkeley Students: You tell 'em, man! The only way to win is to overthrow the system!
Oakland Residents: No, that's not what we said...we need to protest to change the system, not destroy it...
Berkeley Students: FARK YA! FREEDOM!!!! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows*
Oakland Police: You need to disperse now!
Oakland Residents: But we didn't....
Berkeley Students: *running back to Berkeley* Fight the good fight! Power to the People!
Oakland Police: DISPERSE NOW!
Oakland Residents: But...
Oakland Gangs: Oh, shiat jus' got real! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows* FARK TH' PO'PO!!!!
Oakland Police: Tear gas them all and let God sort 'em out...
Oakland Residents: .....

A lot of the violent hoodlums come from Richmond as well.


Richmond thugs are more late-comers, They show up after the riot's started to join in and maybe get some phat lewt.
 
2012-01-29 04:07:21 PM  

Tatsuma: Guntram Shatterhand: we're beating up hippies with a militarized vehicle that has no purpose being on American streets.

nothing wrong with beating up hippies, and what do you have against souped-up rvs?


Yeah stupid hippies, let's round them up, send them to camps and make 'em work for once in their lives! Work makes you free! Or you know what? Fark 'em, we'll just gas 'em to death! Then we'll roll over the rest of the losers in our awesome souped-up rv's and make everyone do what we want!
 
2012-01-29 04:07:40 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: For those of you that live outside the Bay Area, here's how things like this go down:

Oakland Residents: This is unfair. We must protest this in a calm and peaceful manner
Berkeley Students: You tell 'em, man! The only way to win is to overthrow the system!
Oakland Residents: No, that's not what we said...we need to protest to change the system, not destroy it...
Berkeley Students: FARK YA! FREEDOM!!!! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows*
Oakland Police: You need to disperse now!
Oakland Residents: But we didn't....
Berkeley Students: *running back to Berkeley* Fight the good fight! Power to the People!
Oakland Police: DISPERSE NOW!
Oakland Residents: But...
Oakland Gangs: Oh, shiat jus' got real! *toss rocks, molitov cocktails, smash windows* FARK TH' PO'PO!!!!
Oakland Police: Tear gas them all and let God sort 'em out...
Oakland Residents: .....


Carrying out the white man's burden.
 
2012-01-29 04:08:40 PM  
When you trespass and throw flaming debris and bottles at cops. Expect to get arrested.

I see no way this will get any goals achieved.
 
2012-01-29 04:09:44 PM  

dudemanbro: Yeah stupid hippies, let's round them up, send them to camps and make 'em work for once in their lives! Work makes you free! Or you know what? Fark 'em, we'll just gas 'em to death! Then we'll roll over the rest of the losers in our awesome souped-up rv's and make everyone do what we want!


I was being sarcastic.

Hooded hooligans who are throwing bottles, burning flares and metal pipes are police officers are not in any way protesting, or upholding their constitutional rights, and deserve every bean bag to the genitals they will get.
 
2012-01-29 04:12:14 PM  

beta_plus: Only 99% of the OWS acted like violent, destructive, trespassing, anti-semitic, rapist douchebags! It's not fair to generalize all of them that way!


Come up for air from under Norquist's table, did you?
 
2012-01-29 04:12:24 PM  

ArtosRC: CitizensUnited: //seriously though, give 'em hell, Oakland PD

2011-12-24 20:49:12


Ho ho ho
 
2012-01-29 04:14:32 PM  
I wish you could see IP's associated with post. Would explain alot of shiat real quick.
 
2012-01-29 04:17:21 PM  

Tatsuma: Hooded hooligans who are throwing bottles, burning flares and metal pipes are police officers are not in any way protesting, or upholding their constitutional rights, and deserve every bean bag to the genitals they will get.


I disagree with the beanbag to the genitals part. I also disagree with shooting women in the back with beanbag projectiles from point-blank range, or shooting teargas canisters at people's heads. Asshat protesters being violent, throwing bottles etc. are not helping, but neither are heavy-handed police tactics. I can tell you that threatening a population with more violence if they don't back down is not a way to end the protests. If things keep spiraling like this people are likely to get killed, and not all of those killed are likely to be protesters.
 
2012-01-29 04:18:02 PM  

muck4doo:

Carrying out the white man's burden.


Yup. If you can find some, check out the interviews from the Oscar Grant protest/riot last year. All the real residents of Oakland are all 'It's a stupid verdict and it's bullshait, but what can you expect?'. Disappointed and bitter, but not screaming 'Black Rage!'. The only ones talking about the 'criminal injustice system' and 'fascism', and 'the police need to be disbanded' are the white kids down from Berkeley in the Bob Marley dred-catchers and the Che t-shirts.
 
2012-01-29 04:18:02 PM  

Tatsuma: SNIP



This is odd, I don't find you in troll threads that often!

I'll have to adjust my figures, at least CU showed up though. You just like protest threads?

I think it is a mixed bag with the Oakland stuff though, there's rabble rousers in the mix that need quieted but I think in some instances OPD is being a bit heavy handed too which helps fuel it.
 
2012-01-29 04:18:18 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Why not? When it comes down to it, the flag is just a bit of cloth. I'd rather we heated our homes with burning flags than violate the principles that bit of cloth is supposed to represent.


I like to think that the piece of cloth actually still stands for something and is not just a tool used for jingoistic and fascist reasons.
 
2012-01-29 04:18:23 PM  
Good. Crush those Leftist Commie bastards. They are subhuman filth and their lives are beyond worthless.
 
2012-01-29 04:19:13 PM  
cdn.newsday.com

well they could be some of these guys

Or these guys

Or these guys
 
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