Philip Francis Queeg: erveek: One person defecated on a cop car.
All orders by the police are lawful orders.
Disobeying police means you deserve to be beaten severely.
No one knows what occupiers want.
Drum circles.
Smelly hippies.
Get a job.
Entitled.

Have I missed any derping points?

Class warfare

ipads.

apeiron242: Protesting does NOT give you the right to break the law.

i support the OWS cause, but they have to get this through their heads. Being hoodlums will NOT garner sympathy for your cause. You have to take the high road, long, uphill and winding as it is.

doesn't matter. even when OWS obeys laws the cops just bust heads and 'clear the streets'. Then our usual shills show up here and make false claims about 'lawbreaking protesters'.

on the whole, I'd rather the protesters just do their thing. the cops are going to arrest them no matter WHAT they do.

Shadowknight:
Really, if the worst their doing is breaking into an empty and unused convention center to set up camp, I'm not bothered. But then again, I'm a great-grandson of the Flint/Detroit sitdown strikes and a child of a all union family, so my perspective may be skewd slightly on acceptable protest tactics.

it really doesn't matter what the OWS protesters do - the cops are just gonna bust heads and then make up a reason later. it's been happening time and time again. the protesters get clarification on the rules, they follow those rules, and then the cops ignore their agreement with OWS and just steamroll 'em at 2am and throw a bunch of people into a jail cell.

I'm actually impressed with the restraint showed by the OWS movement. i'm not certain i'd be able to remain that patient and calm while being subjected to that level of blatant thuggery by the cops. the majority of violence, brutality and lawbreaking comes from law enforcement, not the protesters. there's gigabytes of video evidence backing that claim too...and yet the press ignores it, and our GOP/authoritarian shills just show up and lie about it.

when the season turns and weather gets warmer, we'll see more people return to these protests. Add in the election year crazy and you've got a perfect recipe for disaster.

Anyone who is opposed to the OWS style of protest, please answer the following;

How do you think a large scale, decentralized protest ought to behave or ought to look?

Should they always obey every order given by anyone with a badge, even when said orders fly in the face of our basic rights as citizens?

Should they begin to target private companies, or maintain their current approach of demonstrating in public venues?

Should they be prosecuted for their acts of civil disobedience?


I ask not to mock or make fun of your responses, but to better understand where you are coming from. I honestly do not get the opposition from many people to OWS protests, as what they are arguing for is to the benefit of every citizen, at the expense of those who have exploited and gamed our system for their own personal benefit. If a group of sociopaths re-arranges the distribution of wealth in this country so that they control nearly all of it, should we allow them to continue do so because they were able to at one time?! That doesn't make sense! It's playing by the school yard rules of "no take backs" and other such simple concepts, without understanding that there is more going on than trading lunches.

People are dying in horrible agony for want of medical care. Children aren't able to receive a decent education. Previously self-supporting families are forced to depend upon government aid or sell off necessary assets such as vehicles and homes. Argue about what is "fair" only AFTER those basic needs are seen to for the mainstay of society. It doesn't matter that it seems "unfair" to pay a 65% tax rate on all money you make over 1 million dollars, but it is inhumane to allow someone to rot away with Alzheimer in a sub-par nursing home because that is all that a family can afford... if they can afford that at all. By sub-par I mean they MIGHT get their diaper changed once a day. This is the world in which we live, and this is the world that the OWS protestors seek to change. Why wouldn't someone support this? Help me to understand, please.

Hot Rod Zoidberg: skinink: I'm not a part of the 99% that wants to break into City Halls and trash the place. How the protesters expect to gain sympathy through rioting, I don't know. All the examples Martin Luther King set about having a non-violent protest have been totally forgotten.

I believe they were trying to reclaim an abandoned building to create a community center when the police starting shooting tear gas, smoke grenades, and rubber bullets at them. Also, a couple people were beaten with police batons and had to be taken to the hospital.

But yeah, I guess it's the people's fault.

THIS. Obey the law, disobey the law, it all ends the same for OWS protestors: Fractured skulls and pepper-spraying old women as cops beat the ever-living fark out of anything that doesn't wear a badge. When your message speaks against corporate ownership of government, the corps send their thugs to show you the price you'll pay for insubordination. And the corporate-owned media will smear you, and the sheep will believe what they are told to believe.

Protest on behalf of corporate ownership of government, however, and you get a media that will race to cover any gathering of five or more protestors and Fox News will devote an entire day to celebrating your "struggle".

RandomExcess: You cannot just protest whatever you want,

Provide the list of things one is not allowed to protest.