Weaver95: Basically, yes.

Only the Spanish zombie apocalypse.

Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Incidentally, if you get a chance, check out the latest film by the director of [Rec], called Sleep Tight. One of the creepiest films I've seen in a long while.

Was there meth involved?

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Depends on how much people panic and how long it takes to recognize the nature of zombies. Riots will do a lot to spread zombies.

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... which can be traced directly back to the previous administration, indubitably.

When there is no more room in prison... the evicted will walk the Earth.

Not quite, it's supposed to start with a boy in rural China getting bitten in the foot while poaching fish by moonlight.

Satanic_Hamster: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Depends on how much people panic and how long it takes to recognize the nature of zombies. Riots will do a lot to spread zombies.

But everybody in the city? When you find out zombies are infecting people, you run down the street? People might riot to get out if someone was containing them, a la Lifeforce, but that requires containment in the first place, which doesn't make sense.

With the way our world seems to be heading, we can only hope so.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies.

Showing the process from patient zero to an entire city being lost to the undead is pretty much NEVER shown. It's just too hard to film. There is usually just a hand wave done and the story skips past the collapse part



"28 Days Later" begins when PETA type dummies try to liberate a lab chimp that bites them. That particular pathogen takes only a few seconds to fully convert someone so it spreads pretty fast from there. All of that happens off screen while the main protagonist is in a coma and when he awakens London is largely deserted. The sequel "28 Weeks Later" sort of shows (on a much smaller scale) how an entire city could fall.

"Return of the Living Dead" begins with a chemical gas leak in a medical supplies warehouse and spreads to a nearby cemetery when the first zombies are cremated and it rains the chemical onto the graves.

Romero's "Night of the Living Dead" never really gives a starting point (it's scarier if you don't know how/why) there is mention of a satellite that explodes in orbit but Romero himself has said it's just a red herring (that means he changed his mind). The collapse of society mostly happens off camera in between "Night of" and "Dawn of the Dead"

"Quarantine" (the US version of "REC") is some doomsday cult breeding rats in an LA apartment building. Nothing takes place outside the building.

"The Walking Dead" hasn't revealed the exact cause beyond the CDC episode where the scientist can't even classify it as a virus or bacteria or fungus. Just like "28 Days Later" the collapse of society takes place while the main character is in a coma. Had Darabont not been fired we might have gotten to see Atlanta being overrun.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

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Soooo Resident Evil is the only zombie movie you've ever seen then? Actually now that I think about it, RE is the only zombie flick I've ever seen that actually explains how the outbreak started. Well there's Zombieland, but its only a brief mention in the beginning of that movie.

I liked how Max Brooks did the progression of the outbreak in World War Z. Cities weren't overrun with zombies in the beginning, it happened slowly until there was this critical mass of the undead, and that's when everybody panicked and lost their shiat.

But this woman isn't a zombie. She's just homeless. When she bites the cop, he gets evicted. Then he bites two friends, and they bite 2 friends, and so on. Pretty soon we'll end up in a foreclosure crisis.

Weaver95: Basically, yes.

One Bad Apple: Had Darabont not been fired we might have gotten to see Atlanta being overrun.

Remember Freaknik?

Nana's Vibrator: But this woman isn't a zombie. She's just homeless. When she bites the cop, he gets evicted. Then he bites two friends, and they bite 2 friends, and so on. Pretty soon we'll end up in a foreclosure crisis.

I hear those bites can be pretty nasti.

One Bad Apple: Had Darabont not been fired we might have gotten to see Atlanta being overrun.

The South shall rise (from the grave) again!

It's the meat of kings!

"The officer was bitten in the hand and chest."

Ouch...

Nana's Vibrator: But this woman isn't a zombie. She's just homeless. When she bites the cop, he gets evicted. Then he bites two friends, and they bite 2 friends, and so on. Pretty soon we'll end up in a foreclosure crisis.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Don't open the barrels in any basements. And never, ever cremate infected lab specimens when it's cloudy.

doglover: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Actually, it's not a virus, it's the dead coming back to life. All of them. So when every corpse in a city goes wild, and it takes about 8 hours to die from the infection of a rotting corpse injury (this is normal and why undertakers wear THICK gloves) what we get is lots of people getting bit and not seeking the proper medical attention. Then, even if they go to ground, they probably have no supplies and must run for it within a week or they get eaten up by their buddy who expires in the night and dies only to rise again.

One week is plenty of time.

Do deaths not caused by zombies (ex. dehydration) still result in the corpse reanimating?

Hey cool! This took place 10 blocks from my house!

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Satanic_Hamster: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Depends on how much people panic and how long it takes to recognize the nature of zombies. Riots will do a lot to spread zombies.

But everybody in the city? When you find out zombies are infecting people, you run down the street? People might riot to get out if someone was containing them, a la Lifeforce, but that requires containment in the first place, which doesn't make sense.

Not everybody in the city. The survivors would have holed up somewhere or run to safe points and then have been evacuated. 28 Weeks Later hints that at least some of the people moving into the new city were evacuees. That would have left the streets for the zombies and the occasional foragers, who would know not to stay very long or get spotted.
Same goes for The Walking Dead. It would take society a while to reform on a global level after that but there are plenty of survivors.

doglover: Baryogenesis: doglover: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Actually, it's not a virus, it's the dead coming back to life. All of them. So when every corpse in a city goes wild, and it takes about 8 hours to die from the infection of a rotting corpse injury (this is normal and why undertakers wear THICK gloves) what we get is lots of people getting bit and not seeking the proper medical attention. Then, even if they go to ground, they probably have no supplies and must run for it within a week or they get eaten up by their buddy who expires in the night and dies only to rise again.

One week is plenty of time.

Do deaths not caused by zombies (ex. dehydration) still result in the corpse reanimating?

Do bears crap in the woods? That's the whole point of the first movie. The entire zombie genre starts in a Western Pennsylvania cemetery. Making it a virus is pointless complication only necessary if you need more monsters like the tongue things in a Biohazard game. Besides, think about it logically, how could a virus reanimate dead tissue? Bacteria maybe have enough biomass to rebuild and restart, but a virus? Not gonna keep a dead body alive much past death. It would be an angel dust high at best.

Now some unknown phenomena that make the dead universally reanimate? That makes sense.

For some reason, I always get a kick out of this sort of response and not just to zombie fiction, but any supernatural stuff in tv, movies, etc.

Magic or act of God causes unlikely/impossible occurrence: OK

Superficially plausible, but ultimately bad science causes unlikely/impossible occurrence: Not ok

It's BS either way, but the former has long been establish as an acceptable form of BS. To me, it's a plot device either way.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

World War Z gave a possible scenario. I don't remember enough details to give a suitable account. Suffice it to say, a combination of incompetence, profiteering with a placebo and complacency were the main factors. Critical mass hits before a widespread panic or a solution.

Baryogenesis: doglover: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Actually, it's not a virus, it's the dead coming back to life. All of them. So when every corpse in a city goes wild, and it takes about 8 hours to die from the infection of a rotting corpse injury (this is normal and why undertakers wear THICK gloves) what we get is lots of people getting bit and not seeking the proper medical attention. Then, even if they go to ground, they probably have no supplies and must run for it within a week or they get eaten up by their buddy who expires in the night and dies only to rise again.

One week is plenty of time.

Do deaths not caused by zombies (ex. dehydration) still result in the corpse reanimating?

In some scenarios yes, in others no. It depends. I know that with The Walking Dead, being dead is what causes you to become a zombie. Being bit just kills you.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Never seen one of those movies yet where zombie-ism is spread by infection and they actually show the start of the outbreak. It's always a test tube breaking in some lab, one guy falling over, then somehow the whole city are zombies. People don't all run into the street and get infected, they tend to lock their doors and stay inside. And zombies aren't all that good at breaking down doors. Just no logical way an infection wipes out a city in a week or two.

Yeah, except everyone has a boyfriend or wife or kid who gets infected and then comes home and starts chomping on everybody in the middle of dinner. Boom: everybody's a zombie.

Benni K Rok: I know that with The Walking Dead, being dead is what causes you to become a zombie. Being bit just kills you.

I don't recall a character that died without being bitten or scratched who later reanimated.

Baryogenesis: Benni K Rok: I know that with The Walking Dead, being dead is what causes you to become a zombie. Being bit just kills you.

I don't recall a character that died without being bitten or scratched who later reanimated.

In the comic Shane gets shot by the kid. He quickly gets buried and later Rick digs him up and he's a zombie. Rick digs him up just so he can kill him again. That might be what the CDC guy whispers in his ear at the end of season 1. Everyone is infected with the zombie virus but the virus isn't fatal by itself. It's dormant until about an hour or so after death.