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(Huffington Post)   A Republican member of the Indiana General Assembly withdrew his bill to create a pilot program for drug testing welfare applicants Friday after one of his Democratic colleagues amended the measure to require drug testing for lawmakers   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 110
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2012-01-28 01:41:02 PM
why just the lawmakers? why not their staff too?
 
2012-01-28 02:14:46 PM
Sauce for the goose.
 
2012-01-28 02:19:11 PM
Turn on the lights and watch the roaches scamper away.
 
2012-01-28 02:37:39 PM
Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.
 
2012-01-28 02:57:35 PM
Wouldn't this need the "Obvious" tag?
 
2012-01-28 02:57:45 PM
So, now you file a proper bill requiring all members of the Indiana General Assembly to be drug tested.
 
2012-01-28 04:41:03 PM
Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

if the Republicans have nothing to fear then they should be ok with being tested for drug abuse.
 
2012-01-28 04:47:14 PM
Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

TFA: McMillin said he withdrew his bill so he could reintroduce it on Monday with a lawmaker drug testing provision that would pass constitutional muster.
 
2012-01-28 04:51:49 PM
Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

Hey, maybe he was just withdrawing it 'for a friend'.
 
2012-01-28 04:52:15 PM
Weaver95: Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

if the Republicans have nothing to fear then they should be ok with being tested for drug abuse.


We should be testing them for personality disorders as well.
 
2012-01-28 04:58:58 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Weaver95: Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

if the Republicans have nothing to fear then they should be ok with being tested for drug abuse.

We should be testing them for personality disorders as well.


That would be easy.

"Is subject or has subject ever run for public office?" (Y/N)

"You answered YES. This indicates a strong personality disorder"
 
2012-01-28 05:20:28 PM
It is my fervent hope that the Democrat re-introduces the amendment as a stand-alone bill.

/And may it sweep the nation, so that government hypocrites everywhere will be shamed into reforming the nations failed war on drugs.

//Or tossed into jail for three to five years. It's all good.
 
2012-01-28 05:21:08 PM
McMillin said he withdrew his bill so he could reintroduce it on Monday with a lawmaker drug testing provision that would pass constitutional muster.

Well, okay then, I gu--

McMillin's bill would overcome constitutional problems, he said, by setting up a tiered screening scheme in which people can opt-out of random testing. Those who decline random tests would only be screened if they arouse "reasonable suspicion," either by their demeanor, by being convicted of a crime, or by missing appointments required by the welfare office.

Sigh.
 
2012-01-28 05:42:43 PM
Mandatory drug and chromosome testing for all law makers = no more GOP
 
2012-01-28 05:44:31 PM
Why can't the lawmakers require 2 weeks prior notification of a drug test like the cop unions do (I don't know about other unions but I hear the NJEA fought to only have pre employment testing) so the lawmakers can have enough time for cleansing before the test?
 
2012-01-28 05:44:47 PM
Relatively Obscure: Sigh.

Indeed. Now attach an amendment that defines "holding public office" as a suspicious demeanor. Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
2012-01-28 05:46:00 PM
i.somethingawful.com

The representative that asked for the bill to be killed.
 
2012-01-28 05:47:17 PM
Hobodeluxe: why just the lawmakers? why not their staff too?

No sense ending there even. Test everyone living off the taxpayers' dime. That would include anyone with health insurance, claims deductions for mortgage interest, or drives on public roads.
 
2012-01-28 05:52:02 PM
republican latest (unfounded) attacks on the poor; voter ID and drug testing welfare recipients.

what class warfare?
 
2012-01-28 05:57:47 PM
Forgot_my_password_again: republican latest (unfounded) attacks on the poor; voter ID and drug testing welfare recipients.


What happened to the "Right to Work" legislation that Mitch Daniels wanted to expedite through the legislature?
 
2012-01-28 05:59:49 PM
FWIW, drugs are probably the only thing you can do for fun in Indiana.

/unless you consider cars going around in circles fun
 
2012-01-28 06:02:12 PM
Sock Ruh Tease: FWIW, drugs are probably the only thing you can do for fun in Indiana.

/unless you consider cars going around in circles fun


There's gonna be some sort of sporting event or festival a week from tomorrow.
 
2012-01-28 06:02:17 PM
Sock Ruh Tease: FWIW, drugs are probably the only thing you can do for fun in Indiana.

/unless you consider cars going around in circles fun


Which can only happen if you're on drugs.
 
2012-01-28 06:03:05 PM
sethstorm: Forgot_my_password_again: republican latest (unfounded) attacks on the poor; voter ID and drug testing welfare recipients.


What happened to the "Right to Work" legislation that Mitch Daniels wanted to expedite through the legislature?


I think it died after Ohio kicked theirs all the way to Mars.
 
2012-01-28 06:03:53 PM
GAT_00: So, now you file a proper bill requiring all members of the Indiana General Assembly to be drug tested.

Correct.
 
2012-01-28 06:04:38 PM
Forgot_my_password_again: republican latest (unfounded) attacks on the poor; voter ID and drug testing welfare recipients.

what class warfare?


"class warfare" is defined as "what happens when the 99% speak out against a system rigged against them, and demand a return to democracy". Don't you see how evil that is?
 
2012-01-28 06:07:04 PM
Stupid idea.

Of course they're on drugs. They wouldnt be on the welfare otherwise.

OTOH, there's nothing wrong with doing drugs that you're paying for yourself.
 
2012-01-28 06:07:17 PM
You know, as long as our War on Drugs is going on test both of them. Might end it. I read a book, can't remember which one or by who, and part of the premise was that the drug cartels support anti drug candidates.
 
2012-01-28 06:08:41 PM
TomD9938: Stupid idea.

Of course they're on drugs. They wouldnt be on the welfare otherwise.

OTOH, there's nothing wrong with doing drugs that you're paying for yourself.


You're an idiot.
 
2012-01-28 06:11:20 PM
TofuTheAlmighty: Hobodeluxe: why just the lawmakers? why not their staff too?

No sense ending there even. Test everyone living off the taxpayers' dime. That would include anyone with health insurance, claims deductions for mortgage interest, or drives on public roads.


Include anyone who uses the internet and we're all screwed.
 
2012-01-28 06:12:22 PM
cameroncrazy1984: I think it died after Ohio kicked theirs all the way to Mars.

You're talking about the 1958 attempt, the failed Senate Bill 5, or the upcoming effort for Ohio to follow in the footsteps of Indiana?

Yes, it might be a couple of months off, but RTW is one of the few things that just won't die, short of a constitutional amendment at state level.
 
2012-01-28 06:13:53 PM
TomD9938: Stupid idea.

Of course they're NOT on drugs. They wouldnt be on the welfare otherwiseif they could afford pot.


Fixed
 
2012-01-28 06:16:05 PM
I would support daily drug testing of all legislators. Mandatory. If you fail once or miss an appointment for testing once, you're done.
 
2012-01-28 06:17:58 PM
FTFA: The Supreme Court ruled drug testing for political candidates unconstitutional in 1997, striking down a Georgia law. Rep. McMillin said he withdrew his bill so he could reintroduce it on Monday with a lawmaker drug testing provision that would pass constitutional muster.

Great Many Private Sector Company Employees: Require random drug screening.
Public Sector Agencies (City, State, and Federal) Professional Staff: Require random drug screening.
Public Primary Schools Employees: Require random drug screening.
Public Transportation Employees: Require random drug screening.
Federal Law Enforcement: Require random drug screening.
Military: Require random drug screening.
Police: Require random drug screening.
Firefighters: Require random drug screening.
Politicians: Require random drug screening- UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

It is common practice for just about all corporations to require that prospective employee's take and pass a drug screening on condition of employment these days, many of them go on to require passing random drug screening as a condition of maintaining their employment (especially true among privately held companies with government contracts), while welfare recipients are not required to do anything but qualify for their public assistance and not be convicted of felony crimes while on the dole.

By the way, currently there are 36 states considering random drug testing for 'public assistance' recipients as well as pending Federal Legislation which would make it a Federal law mandating all 50 States to drug test public assistance recipients. They're just trying to figure out a way around all that annoying constitutionality stuff.
 
2012-01-28 06:22:25 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: TomD9938: Stupid idea.

Of course they're on drugs. They wouldnt be on the welfare otherwise.

OTOH, there's nothing wrong with doing drugs that you're paying for yourself.

You're an idiot.


How DARE you!

/not really...
 
2012-01-28 06:23:12 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Weaver95: Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

if the Republicans have nothing to fear then they should be ok with being tested for drug abuse.

We should be testing them for personality disorders as well.


And souls.
 
2012-01-28 06:23:20 PM
sgtlejeune: I would support daily drug testing of all legislators. Mandatory. If you fail once or miss an appointment for testing once, you're done.

And it must be covered live on C-SPAN so we can make sure.
 
2012-01-28 06:24:57 PM
Meatzilla: Politicians: Require random drug screening- UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Has any politician taken advantage of that while in office to openly consume such?
 
2012-01-28 06:29:59 PM
I_Am_Weasel: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Weaver95: Aarontology: Well if that's not an admission I don't know what is.

if the Republicans have nothing to fear then they should be ok with being tested for drug abuse.

We should be testing them for personality disorders as well.

That would be easy.

"Is subject or has subject ever run for public office?" (Y/N)

"You answered YES. This indicates a strong personality disorder"


Kind of like the mouth moving test for lying.
 
2012-01-28 06:33:01 PM
Duh. This is for demonizing poor people, not saving money or reducing drug use.
 
2012-01-28 06:34:54 PM
BSABSVR: Duh. This is for demonizing poor people, not saving money or reducing drug use.

This is also a big moneymaker for the drug testing firms. I wonder who owns those and what connections they have to these lawmakers.
 
2012-01-28 06:35:26 PM
They shouldn't test politicians. Why should I care if a state senator is taking 100k of tax pay dollars a year and does drugs on the side? It probably helps with his decision making and that's good for everyone. Now that guy taking 1k of tax payer dollars a year while doing drugs is the one that makes my blood boil. Did you see the rims on his car?
 
2012-01-28 06:37:19 PM
"HERO" tag for the Democratic lawmaker, please.
 
2012-01-28 06:38:24 PM
Based on the GOP debates, I'd not only like to see all the presidential contenders drug tested but every GOP voter as well. You simply have to be on crack or meth to vote for any of these idiots.
 
2012-01-28 06:38:52 PM
With the millions, billions and trillions that politicians control they need to be tested and removed from office if under the influence. This country has enough problems without some easily bribed or blackmailed drug addicted politician inserting legislation into the process.

/If it is good enough for welfare recipients it is good enough for them.
 
2012-01-28 06:38:53 PM
damn....
 
2012-01-28 06:41:56 PM
See all the good things that can happen when you show up for work instead of hide and play at protesting?
 
2012-01-28 06:53:48 PM
Hobodeluxe: why just the lawmakers? why not their staff too?

The staff are not there to soberly take care of legislative business. A good number of them are there to sleep their way up the ranks en route to a lobbying gig.
 
2012-01-28 06:54:49 PM
Political Candidate !/=/! no not equal Politician or Legislator

sooooo....
 
2012-01-28 07:01:02 PM
I actually think legislatures should have to smoke a fat one before each session.
 
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