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2012-01-28 04:40:41 PM

Mugato: Did they actually explain what happened to Sauroman in the LOTR director's cut? I can't imagine there are actually longer versions of those movies.


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/can't imagine anyone going through 10 years of life without knowing that
 
2012-01-28 04:47:51 PM

Leader O'Cola: Alien


Gotta disagree with you on that one. The only stuff added is Ripley finding the cocooned Dallas and Brett (which doesn't make much sense since he's dead). It kills the pacing of the closing scenes and sorta borks the whole second movie (the aliens can reproduce WITHOUT a queen??).


GimpyNip: LOTR? They should make a 3 hour cliff notes version of all 3 combined.


I have some friends in San Francisco who actually went to a screening of ALL THREE director's cuts. IN A ROW. How the hell do you sit in a theater for 10 hours?
 
2012-01-28 04:48:01 PM

100 Watt Walrus: PizzaJedi81: Blade Runner? Check. Pretentious foreign film that you've never heard of? Double check. Phrase in anotyher language to show how smart the author is? Check and done!

What twaffle.

Snarky, presumptuous twatwaffle spouting off about a movie he's never seen? Check. Who posts without reviewing what he typed to make sure he doesn't misspell a word and comes off looking like an even bigger ass? Check.


Hold on, I need my turtleneck, horn-rimmed glasses and cigarette holder (With no cigarette.) before I can start responding to this.
 
2012-01-28 04:53:36 PM

fusillade762: Leader O'Cola: Alien

Gotta disagree with you on that one. The only stuff added is Ripley finding the cocooned Dallas and Brett (which doesn't make much sense since he's dead). It kills the pacing of the closing scenes and sorta borks the whole second movie (the aliens can reproduce WITHOUT a queen??).


it's been a while since I've seen the recut Aline, but I only recall the cocooning with no eggs otherwise. Cocooning would be rather silly without a queen, but I guess that was the alien's natural habit to do so. Even then, I would say the complaint that it doesn't jibe well with the 2nd movie to be more of a retrospective criticism.

I don't think the recut is superior, but it is more interesting than the recut of Aliens.
 
2012-01-28 04:54:07 PM
Came for Kingdom of Heaven, LOTR, Gladiator, Abyss

The Scorpion King with the deleted scenes edited in was a lot better than the theatrical cut.

/for certain values of "better"
//WHERE STAR WARS SPECIAL EDITION WHER? That added 20 minutes of footage of belching space frogs made Star Wars sooooo much better.
 
2012-01-28 04:57:51 PM
No "Tombstone"?

List fail.
 
2012-01-28 05:00:59 PM

Wolfscythe: Superman II, anyone? Not *exactly* a director's cut, but the Richard Donner cut was like a totally separate movie. They did a lot with test footage, and though it was still nowhere near as good as the first, at least it made *sense*, something the theatrical version of II can't say.


This. Absolutely this.

Happened to catch this version a few months ago; much better movie then the theatrical version.
 
2012-01-28 05:03:35 PM

slotz: /side note, check out "Hearts of Darkness," the documentary about the making of Apocalypse Now by Coppola's wife. Very entertaining.


LOL, I concur. Just for Marlon Brando not knowing what he was going to say.
 
2012-01-28 05:13:56 PM

FeedTheCollapse: fusillade762: Leader O'Cola: Alien

Gotta disagree with you on that one. The only stuff added is Ripley finding the cocooned Dallas and Brett (which doesn't make much sense since he's dead). It kills the pacing of the closing scenes and sorta borks the whole second movie (the aliens can reproduce WITHOUT a queen??).

it's been a while since I've seen the recut Aline, but I only recall the cocooning with no eggs otherwise. Cocooning would be rather silly without a queen, but I guess that was the alien's natural habit to do so. Even then, I would say the complaint that it doesn't jibe well with the 2nd movie to be more of a retrospective criticism.

I don't think the recut is superior, but it is more interesting than the recut of Aliens.


If the cocooning was just instinctual and Dallas wasn't implanted with an egg why would he beg Ripley to kill him? She could have just rescued him.

And to be fair the second movie sort of retconns the first one with the queen. Ripley's whole tirade at the executive meeting ("If just ONE of those things gets down here") is kind of odd in light of the concept that the only way they can reproduce is with a queen. Unless she has some special insight into their biology (ie - a single drone alien can transform into a queen if there aren't any other queens nearby).
 
2012-01-28 05:29:16 PM

DamnYankees: If number one isn't Kingdom of Heaven, the list is meaningless.


I finally caught the directors cut and couldn't believe what actually made it to theater, it's two completely different movies.
 
2012-01-28 05:48:50 PM
I saw the theatrical release of Kingdom of Heaven and thought it was a solid movie. After reading this thread I want to see the director's cut. Can anyone elaborate on the differences?
 
2012-01-28 05:50:00 PM

tomWright: Fails without Branagh's Hamlet


I live near Seattle, one of the few cities that had a theater playing the full version of Hamlet. It was really good.

The LOTR movies covered a big story, so I'm glad they released the extended versions on DVD.

Cry all you want... Deckard is a replicant. Gaff was the source of his memories.
 
2012-01-28 05:55:29 PM
What about the directors cut of The Professional, anybody see it?
 
2012-01-28 06:04:50 PM

Surool: theater playing the full version of Hamlet. It was really good.


Saw full hamlet during its obligatory LA theatrical run. Excellent except for Jack Lemon's clunker Shakespearian "acting" as one of the night watchmen. Way to start the movie off right, Branagh!
 
2012-01-28 06:15:17 PM

fusillade762: If the cocooning was just instinctual and Dallas wasn't implanted with an egg why would he beg Ripley to kill him? She could have just rescued him.



I'm willing to be he wasn't in the best of conditions, regardless of whether or not he was implanted or not.



And to be fair the second movie sort of retconns the first one with the queen. Ripley's whole tirade at the executive meeting ("If just ONE of those things gets down here") is kind of odd in light of the concept that the only way they can reproduce is with a queen.


I think the implication was that just one alien wiped out a crew in less than 24 hours and could probably do as much damage to an entire colony.
 
2012-01-28 06:21:04 PM

Sypad: I saw the theatrical release of Kingdom of Heaven and thought it was a solid movie. After reading this thread I want to see the director's cut. Can anyone elaborate on the differences?


I watched the director's cut quite a few years after seeing the theatrical cut. As I recall it didn't change anything so much as make everything better. Characters had personality, the plot was fully realized, and the theme was actually fleshed out. The theater version just seemed to have cut out everything that would make people get interested in the story.
 
2012-01-28 06:29:50 PM

FeedTheCollapse: fusillade762: If the cocooning was just instinctual and Dallas wasn't implanted with an egg why would he beg Ripley to kill him? She could have just rescued him.


I'm willing to be he wasn't in the best of conditions, regardless of whether or not he was implanted or not.



And to be fair the second movie sort of retconns the first one with the queen. Ripley's whole tirade at the executive meeting ("If just ONE of those things gets down here") is kind of odd in light of the concept that the only way they can reproduce is with a queen.


I think the implication was that just one alien wiped out a crew in less than 24 hours and could probably do as much damage to an entire colony.


I thought any adult alien could produce an egg, which once implanted would hatch into a queen thereby starting a new colony.
 
2012-01-28 06:41:08 PM
The Director's cut of the Butterfly Effect is a way better movie. The ending is really dark.

Yes, I am sad to say I actually liked a Kutcher movie.
 
2012-01-28 06:57:55 PM
movieman_1979: Absolute list FAIL without

That's a restored edition, not a director's cut. If I'm not mistaken it's based on the 2001 restoration. There's a newer, and substantially restoration around now after they found a print with 30 minutes of additional footage back in 2008. The cuts to the film were made before it's international release, and those prints became the ones that everyone became familiar with.
 
2012-01-28 07:13:25 PM

9beers: I need to see the directors cut of Almost Famous.


Yeah, same here.
 
2012-01-28 07:24:38 PM
I know a lot of people don't like Donnie Darko in general, but the Director's Cut is better. I saw it first and it was a long time before I saw the original theatrical cut. The small changes made for the Director's Cut made the movie make so much more sense, I can see why if you saw the theatrical version you would just hate the crap out of it.
 
2012-01-28 07:30:55 PM

odinsposse: Sypad: I saw the theatrical release of Kingdom of Heaven and thought it was a solid movie. After reading this thread I want to see the director's cut. Can anyone elaborate on the differences?

I watched the director's cut quite a few years after seeing the theatrical cut. As I recall it didn't change anything so much as make everything better. Characters had personality, the plot was fully realized, and the theme was actually fleshed out. The theater version just seemed to have cut out everything that would make people get interested in the story.


I wonder how pissed off Norton was that most of his scenes got cut for the theatrical release. I think he was robbed of an Oscar nomination.
 
2012-01-28 07:58:02 PM
The list isn't bad, but it bugs me that the author felt the need to comment about Nazis in the Das Boot summary - especially since only one character in the majority of the film actually identifies as one... All of the other sailors identify simply as German sailors who happen to be working under the Nazi regime, and in a number of scenes openly express their dislike of it.
 
2012-01-28 08:07:41 PM

burningplastic: The list isn't bad, but it bugs me that the author felt the need to comment about Nazis in the Das Boot summary - especially since only one character in the majority of the film actually identifies as one... All of the other sailors identify simply as German sailors who happen to be working under the Nazi regime, and in a number of scenes openly express their dislike of it.


I was going to say the same thing.
 
2012-01-28 08:32:23 PM
Leader O'Cola: Apocalypse Now :Redux

Pluses: most of the continuity errors in the original have been fixed. For example: one minute the boat is leaving Kilgore's beach camp and there's no surfboard onboard; the next time we see the back of the boat, there's one there. Redux shows that it was stolen from Kilgore.

Or: after Clean is killed, one minute his body is on the boat, the next it isn't. Redux shows the burial of his body at the French plantation.

Minuses: the French plantation scene after they bury Clean.

Add me to the fans of Hearts of Darkness, a fascinating movie. Favorite bit: when the Phillipine Air Force takes off in the middle of a take because they have to do their job

My film isn't about Vietnam. It IS Vietnam. [sounds starts when you click]

Rwa2play: LOL, I concur. Just for Marlon Brando not knowing what he was going to say.

He does say, however, "You're neither. You're an errand boy sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill", that's good enough for me.

My list would include The Big Sleep. I'm a huge Bogart fan and I love Raymond Chandler's book, but the version released to theaters is a mess. Shock! The studio butchered the movie after some test screenings. They found Howard Hawks's original cut at UCLA in the late 90's and it's the version shown on TCM, a vast improvement.
 
2012-01-28 08:37:20 PM

Henry Holland: Add me to the fans of Hearts of Darkness, a fascinating movie. Favorite bit: when the Phillipine Air Force takes off in the middle of a take because they have to do their job


There's a recent documentary, Machete Maidens Unleashed, about low-budget filmmaking in the Philippines at the time, and it's fascinating about that sort of thing (it's on Netflix streaming, as is a movie by the same people about Ozploitation movies called Not Since Hollywood).
 
2012-01-28 08:40:23 PM

Turfshoe: The Director's cut of the Butterfly Effect is a way better movie. The ending is really dark.

Yes, I am sad to say I actually liked a Kutcher movie.


No shame in liking that movie, especially with the alternate womb ending. (I had to look up the original ending to remember what the heck it was.)
 
2012-01-28 08:51:49 PM

slotz: rickycal78: Leader O'Cola: Apocalypse Now :Redux

Sorry, but that movie was plodding around slowly to begin with. I thought Redux actually made it worse.

I sort of concur. Apocalypse Now is one of my favorite movies, but I hated Redux.

/side note, check out "Hearts of Darkness," the documentary about the making of Apocalypse Now by Coppola's wife. Very entertaining.


Redux was a mixed thing. The plantation scene should have stayed on the cutting room floor. Teefing Col. Kilgore's surfboard was great. The Playboy bit had to have been one of the more uncomfortable moments in film history, which I guess made it kinda impactful. And the bits where Marlon Brando says more bullshiat don't add anything. So it's more chaff than wheat, for sure.
 
2012-01-28 08:53:53 PM
Most of you maybe don't remember when there was a director's bootleg of Highlander. I remember being wowed at the extra scene in WWII with Japanese subtitles in grainy VHS glory.
the director's cut of Paul is a much better movie than
the theatrical release as well
 
2012-01-28 09:17:39 PM
Donnie Darko original ver. is better than the directors cut. Moving the soundtrack around - bad call. Also, spoon feeding the audience with excerpts from the time travel book? Pass.

Director's cut of Brazil is better than the Love Conquers all vers. for sure.

Director's cut of Army of Darkness is better for the most part BUT I love the S-Mart ending of the Theatrical cut better. I'd say a fan cut, mix the best of both worlds.

Director's cut of Wicker Man is better than the shorter one where an entire day is edited out with a continuity error.

The original version of Night of the Living Dead is better than the John Russo 30th anniv. version which adds extra scenes to the beginning and the end of the movie that only add running time and really nothing else as all. What a waste.

I have yet to see the Dark City director's cut, but really want too. I love the original. Thoughts on that one at all? Good/Bad?
 
2012-01-28 09:20:11 PM

tarkus1980: Wow, I've rarely disagreed with a post more. The extended Aliens is my favorite movie ever; I'm not sure the regular one would make my top 20, though it might.


I think the early scenes on LV-426 are a mistake...in the theatrical version, the slower buildup to landing on the planet is more suspenseful. Having no idea at all what's going on on the planet before the Marines arrive is better.

But the sentry scene was pretty effective.
 
2012-01-28 09:37:08 PM

rotorschnee: I have yet to see the Dark City director's cut, but really want too. I love the original. Thoughts on that one at all? Good/Bad?


Far better. It gets rid of the annoying intro which basically tells you the entire plot at the beginning.

Also, in either version, there is a cut about every 1.5 seconds or less; an extremely rapid pace. you can't unsee it.
 
2012-01-28 09:40:04 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: rotorschnee: I have yet to see the Dark City director's cut, but really want too. I love the original. Thoughts on that one at all? Good/Bad?

Far better. It gets rid of the annoying intro which basically tells you the entire plot at the beginning.

Also, in either version, there is a cut about every 1.5 seconds or less; an extremely rapid pace. you can't unsee it.


I suspected it did this! Does much else of the movie change? usually when I screen the movie for other people when they come over, I just mute the first few seconds so we don't hear the voice over. Does the director's cut DVD contain both vers or just the new? Worth a replacement?
 
2012-01-28 09:40:18 PM

Flappyhead: Does the Superman II count? Yeah there were incomplete scenes but still.


There needs to be a better combination of the Donner and Lester footage so there can be an actually finished movie that has a different ending than the first movie.

The Donner cut is like the ultimate deleted scene but Lester and Donner each went out of their way to cut as much of the other's footage out as they could. Somebody without a dog in the fight needs to take all the footage and fix it once and for all. Maybe even pay Hackman to dub his own lines since he refused to originally.
 
2012-01-28 09:58:38 PM

if_i_really_have_to: I know a lot of people don't like Donnie Darko in general, but the Director's Cut is better.


You are not alone. I saw the theatrical version first (technically on DVD since I worked at a video store at the time), and it was awful storytelling. I got pulled into watching the Director's Cut at a midnight showing in Ann Arbor when I lived near the theater, and that version is the one I really liked, because the editing made what was happening on screen somehow much more understandable as a whole.
 
2012-01-28 10:01:17 PM

rotorschnee: Director's cut of Army of Darkness is better for the most part BUT I love the S-Mart ending of the Theatrical cut better.


I thought the future wasteland ending was a much better ending and more appropriate to the humor. I think the only plus side to the theatrical ending is that an Evil Dead 4 will probably not happen and the wasteland ending sets up a sequel.
 
2012-01-28 10:10:16 PM
Add me to the list of people who require Kingdom of Heaven to be included (if not #1 with a bullet) and at least a top 5 showing for The Abyss.
 
2012-01-28 10:27:42 PM

Surool: tomWright: Fails without Branagh's Hamlet

I live near Seattle, one of the few cities that had a theater playing the full version of Hamlet. It was really good.

The LOTR movies covered a big story, so I'm glad they released the extended versions on DVD.

Cry all you want... Deckard is a replicant. Gaff was the source of his memories.


U trollin? What evidence supports this? An origami unicorn? Unicorns symbolize freedom, escape; Deckard was dreaming of escape and Gaff is telling him get away before we have to come after her. Why would he be obliged to come after her? Because the rule is No replicants on Earth. If that's the rule, you wouldn't have replicants as blade runners. If that's not the rule, you wouldn't need blade runners (and there'd be no reason to hunt Rachel).

/have odd sense I'm feeding a troll
 
2012-01-28 10:36:23 PM

Nem Wan: Flappyhead: Does the Superman II count? Yeah there were incomplete scenes but still.

There needs to be a better combination of the Donner and Lester footage so there can be an actually finished movie that has a different ending than the first movie.


As long as it doesn't have the Donner ending with turning back time AGAIN. I'll take the magic kiss over that.
 
2012-01-28 10:41:39 PM
No Kingdom of Heaven? Whaaaaaaa?
 
2012-01-28 10:51:53 PM

JosephFinn: Nem Wan: Flappyhead: Does the Superman II count? Yeah there were incomplete scenes but still.

There needs to be a better combination of the Donner and Lester footage so there can be an actually finished movie that has a different ending than the first movie.

As long as it doesn't have the Donner ending with turning back time AGAIN. I'll take the magic kiss over that.


That was the original ending to Superman II. Superman I was going to end with a cliffhanger when Superman pushed the missile into space and freed the Zod gang. I don't think fixing Superman II is worth farking up Superman I, so my edit of Superman II would, for better or worse, be the story in the Lester version but using the Brando scenes and, whenever there is Donner and Lester footage of the same scene, using whatever is better -- for example, I think some of Terence Stamp's line readings from the Lester reshoots are better.
 
2012-01-28 10:56:12 PM

JosephFinn: Nem Wan: Flappyhead: Does the Superman II count? Yeah there were incomplete scenes but still.

There needs to be a better combination of the Donner and Lester footage so there can be an actually finished movie that has a different ending than the first movie.

As long as it doesn't have the Donner ending with turning back time AGAIN. I'll take the magic kiss over that.


Originally Superman 1 ended without turning back the world -- Lois being saved just in time, Lex being flown to jail, and then that first nuclear missile thrown out in space breaking open the phantom zone with Zod & co escaping. A cliffhanger for the sequel. Only the second film was to have the turning back the world. The donner cut shows this.

What they need is a Superman 1 directors cut without the turning back the world sequence.
 
2012-01-28 10:58:52 PM

stagirite: U trollin? What evidence supports this? An origami unicorn? Unicorns symbolize freedom, escape; Deckard was dreaming of escape and Gaff is telling him get away before we have to come after her. Why would he be obliged to come after her? Because the rule is No replicants on Earth. If that's the rule, you wouldn't have replicants as blade runners. If that's not the rule, you wouldn't need blade runners (and there'd be no reason to hunt Rachel).

/have odd sense I'm feeding a troll


Oh that's right, I forgot you guys don't believe Scott when he admitted it.
 
2012-01-28 11:11:24 PM

Metaluna Mutant: Originally Superman 1 ended without turning back the world -- Lois being saved just in time, Lex being flown to jail, and then that first nuclear missile thrown out in space breaking open the phantom zone with Zod & co escaping. A cliffhanger for the sequel. Only the second film was to have the turning back the world. The donner cut shows this.

What they need is a Superman 1 directors cut without the turning back the world sequence.


So Lois doesn't die and we don't get Christopher Reeve's incredible scene as grief-stricken Superman? That's why I say Superman II should be made the best of without changing Superman I.
 
2012-01-28 11:34:29 PM

rotorschnee: The All-Powerful Atheismo: rotorschnee: I have yet to see the Dark City director's cut, but really want too. I love the original. Thoughts on that one at all? Good/Bad?

Far better. It gets rid of the annoying intro which basically tells you the entire plot at the beginning.

Also, in either version, there is a cut about every 1.5 seconds or less; an extremely rapid pace. you can't unsee it.

I suspected it did this! Does much else of the movie change? usually when I screen the movie for other people when they come over, I just mute the first few seconds so we don't hear the voice over. Does the director's cut DVD contain both vers or just the new? Worth a replacement?


I don't remember if it has both, but you can find it cheap. I got it for $10 on blu ray. Definitely worth it.
 
2012-01-28 11:37:57 PM

PainInTheASP: Kingdom of Heaven should be on that list....


THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!

The director's cut is the ONLY cut I watch. BRILLIANT film!
 
2012-01-28 11:44:50 PM

stoli n coke: odinsposse: Sypad: I saw the theatrical release of Kingdom of Heaven and thought it was a solid movie. After reading this thread I want to see the director's cut. Can anyone elaborate on the differences?

I watched the director's cut quite a few years after seeing the theatrical cut. As I recall it didn't change anything so much as make everything better. Characters had personality, the plot was fully realized, and the theme was actually fleshed out. The theater version just seemed to have cut out everything that would make people get interested in the story.

I wonder how pissed off Norton was that most of his scenes got cut for the theatrical release. I think he was robbed of an Oscar nomination.


And it's just a more beautiful movie, the director's cut. The story makes more sense, Balian's actions make WAAAAAAAAAAAY more sense, and I love the extra Salahadin. That man was brilliant.

Now, I have to watch it again.
 
2012-01-28 11:51:30 PM
There's a deleted scene from Boogie Nights that explains why Dirk's Corvette has a smashed front end. I thought it was strange that it just showed up wrecked with no explanation. The scene is pretty grim.
 
2012-01-29 12:01:02 AM

Surool: stagirite: U trollin? What evidence supports this? An origami unicorn? Unicorns symbolize freedom, escape; Deckard was dreaming of escape and Gaff is telling him get away before we have to come after her. Why would he be obliged to come after her? Because the rule is No replicants on Earth. If that's the rule, you wouldn't have replicants as blade runners. If that's not the rule, you wouldn't need blade runners (and there'd be no reason to hunt Rachel).

/have odd sense I'm feeding a troll

Oh that's right, I forgot you guys don't believe Scott when he admitted it.


I know he said it (later), but it's incoherent nonetheless. If he thinks that's "cool" he should make another movie rather than wreck the PKD story. Anyway, I was asking about evidence in the sense of things _in the movie_. An origami unicorn isn't enough.
 
2012-01-29 12:19:32 AM

stagirite: Surool: stagirite: U trollin? What evidence supports this? An origami unicorn? Unicorns symbolize freedom, escape; Deckard was dreaming of escape and Gaff is telling him get away before we have to come after her. Why would he be obliged to come after her? Because the rule is No replicants on Earth. If that's the rule, you wouldn't have replicants as blade runners. If that's not the rule, you wouldn't need blade runners (and there'd be no reason to hunt Rachel).

/have odd sense I'm feeding a troll

Oh that's right, I forgot you guys don't believe Scott when he admitted it.

I know he said it (later), but it's incoherent nonetheless. If he thinks that's "cool" he should make another movie rather than wreck the PKD story. Anyway, I was asking about evidence in the sense of things _in the movie_. An origami unicorn isn't enough.


Sorry but farking everything about the movie implied he was a replicant. There is plenty of stuff to read about it online if you really care that much.

"It's too bad she won't live... but then again who does?"
 
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