Send in Seal Team 6!

Difficulty: would the Iranians thank us....or be embarrassed that they couldn't get their own soldiers out by themselves?

Looks like those pilgrims Iran into Syrian trouble

Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

miss diminutive: Seriously though, I hope they all still have their testicles.

Why? No plans tonight?

Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

Probably from the Syrian Army, there are a lot defecting to the rebel freedom fighters side.

Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

Some soldiers defected governemt with their guns.. Just kidding it's CIA FBI and MOSSAD again

miss diminutive: I'm sure the Syrians will treat their captives with all the due process and rights accorded to them by the Geneva Conventions.

Seriously though, I hope they all still have their testicles.

In the original sack?

Goblin scouts from Mordor.

Half Man Half Biscuit: Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

Probably from the Syrian Army, there are a lot defecting to the rebel freedom fighters side.

These men promptly escaped to the Homs underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

LewDux: Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

Some soldiers defected governemt with their guns.. Just kidding it's CIA FBI and MOSSAD, Illuminati, Masons, Bilderberg, Haliburton, Exxon, Bush/Chenythe military industrial complex, and Mrs.Flowers second grade class again

FTFY

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Send in Seal Team 6!

Difficulty: would the Iranians thank us....or be embarrassed that they couldn't get their own soldiers out by themselves?

Why?
Iran is supporting bashir who is no friend of ours, and a rescue won't change Iran's ways or his.
...even if we can be bothered to intervene.

I figure these Syrian rebels must have some military expertise if they are holding their own. But since conscription is common over there and weapons can be found everywhere, that doesn't mean they have any association with us.
If we go in and successfully negotiate their release, that association will be made.

To do it with violence: This isn't a problem like piracy. It's getting us involved in one of those Arab spring movements, against the side we probably want to win, in order to save iranian commandos sent to crush them.

Our job here is to kick back on the lawn chair and watch Iran make excuses for why it's in this predicament to begin with.

way south: To do it with violence: This isn't a problem like piracy. It's getting us involved in one of those Arab spring movements, against the side we probably want to win, in order to save iranian commandos sent to crush them.

Israel doesn't support the Arab Spring movements.

seriously, would you state, after capture that you are a "Military Expert"?
I'm thinking Fail there

In my one blurry minds eye I see some re-enactment sort of person standing in some silly uniform with a toy moving stick going on about "Military Expert" and what not.

it's early for me

hasty ambush: LewDux: Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

Some soldiers defected governemt with their guns.. Just kidding it's CIA FBI and MOSSAD, Illuminati, Masons, Bilderberg, Haliburton, Exxon, Bush/Chenythe military industrial complex, and Mrs.Flowers second grade class again

FTFY

Same thing really

way south: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Send in Seal Team 6!

Difficulty: would the Iranians thank us....or be embarrassed that they couldn't get their own soldiers out by themselves?

Why?
Iran is supporting bashir who is no friend of ours, and a rescue won't change Iran's ways or his.
...even if we can be bothered to intervene.

I figure these Syrian rebels must have some military expertise if they are holding their own. But since conscription is common over there and weapons can be found everywhere, that doesn't mean they have any association with us.
If we go in and successfully negotiate their release, that association will be made.

To do it with violence: This isn't a problem like piracy. It's getting us involved in one of those Arab spring movements, against the side we probably want to win, in order to save iranian commandos sent to crush them.

Our job here is to kick back on the lawn chair and watch Iran make excuses for why it's in this predicament to begin with.

That whistling sound you heard was my lame attempt at humor sailing right over your head.

wedun: way south: To do it with violence: This isn't a problem like piracy. It's getting us involved in one of those Arab spring movements, against the side we probably want to win, in order to save iranian commandos sent to crush them.

Israel doesn't support the Arab Spring movements.


Sorry, when he says 'We' I think he means the United States.

Someone living in the middle of Arizona probably wouldn't have a whole lot to do with the state of Israel.

If the Iranians and Syrians started poking at each other, that would solve a whole lot of problems.

That very odd sound you just heard (sort of a squishy grunt) was every neo-con in the entire USA creaming their pants at the thought of starting a war with Syria AND Iran at the same time.

/Add in Pakistan and they'd be jizzing out their noses

Yeah, most of these rebels are defectors from the military. That they're trained soldiers is not particularly surprising. And I think that this announcement was aimed at two audiences: the West, because we're worried about Iran and this can't possibly improve our opinion, and the Syrian public, because those people who are on the fence or not really committed to either the rebels or the gov't are not likely to be happy about Iranian interference in internal Syrian politics. The rebels are hoping that this sways public opinion in their direction. It's not going to make us dislike Iran any more than we do, but maybe we'll have slightly better feelings about the rebels if they appear anti-Iran.

It's a good PR move all around.

Iran is desperate to keep their pet ally dictator up and running. Screw the thousands of dead civilians.
it'll be a lot more difficult for Iran to arm their terrorist organization Hizballah without Assad.

TappingTheVein: Iran is desperate to keep their pet ally dictator up and running. Screw the thousands of dead civilians.
it'll be a lot more difficult for Iran to arm their terrorist organization Hizballah without Assad.

So they like having their own Saddam Hussein just as the U.S. did?

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: way south: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Send in Seal Team 6!

Difficulty: would the Iranians thank us....or be embarrassed that they couldn't get their own soldiers out by themselves?

Why?
Iran is supporting bashir who is no friend of ours, and a rescue won't change Iran's ways or his.
...even if we can be bothered to intervene.

I figure these Syrian rebels must have some military expertise if they are holding their own. But since conscription is common over there and weapons can be found everywhere, that doesn't mean they have any association with us.
If we go in and successfully negotiate their release, that association will be made.

To do it with violence: This isn't a problem like piracy. It's getting us involved in one of those Arab spring movements, against the side we probably want to win, in order to save iranian commandos sent to crush them.

Our job here is to kick back on the lawn chair and watch Iran make excuses for why it's in this predicament to begin with.

That whistling sound you heard was my lame attempt at humor sailing right over your head.

You forgot your sarc mark!

Oh, Iran. You're so screwed up even your own allies take military action against you!

2wolves: So they like having their own Saddam Hussein just as the U.S. did?

*YAWN*

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It is pretty ironic that Assad has been yelling about foreigners aiding and abetting the rebels, when in fact the foreign intervention has actually been on his side.

miss diminutive: I'm sure the Syrians will treat their captives with all the due process and rights accorded to them by the Geneva Conventions.

Seriously though, I hope they all still have their testicles.

AFAIK the Geneva Conventions only apply to government forces, not to rebels. Wrong?

traylor: miss diminutive: I'm sure the Syrians will treat their captives with all the due process and rights accorded to them by the Geneva Conventions.

Seriously though, I hope they all still have their testicles.

AFAIK the Geneva Conventions only apply to government forces, not to rebels. Wrong?

IIRC, it applies to anyone wearing a uniform and acting in accordance with the Conventions. But I'm not sure. And I'm too lazy to ask my friends in the military.

Rich Cream: Riffington: It is pretty ironic that Assad has been yelling about foreigners aiding and abetting the rebels, when in fact the foreign intervention has actually been on his side.


Hypocrisy is not irony.

/ahhhhhhh

It is in those circumstances when you would expect the speaker to be upholding a standard, but instead he turns out to be a hypocrite. It is even more clearly ironic in this case because the rebels have not been depending on foreign assistance despite the widespread belief that they will need to, and the oppressive government has depsite the widespread belief that it would not need to.

QifutuWahuta: traylor: miss diminutive: I'm sure the Syrians will treat their captives with all the due process and rights accorded to them by the Geneva Conventions.

Seriously though, I hope they all still have their testicles.

AFAIK the Geneva Conventions only apply to government forces, not to rebels. Wrong?

IIRC, it applies to anyone wearing a uniform and acting in accordance with the Conventions. But I'm not sure. And I'm too lazy to ask my friends in the military.

This is essentially correct, although neither the rebels nor the Iranian agents are abiding strictly by the Geneva Conventions. The Syrian government has been the most flagrant in its violations, actively using torture. It is therefore likely that the Iranian agents merit "humane treatment" but no other protections.

I'm sure they could sit down, talk this out, and agree that this is all Israels fault. Possibly America.

what is scary about this? other than scary for the Iranian captives

Already reported months ago that Iranian Engineers were kidnapped from a project there and it just so happens that these guys have the exact same names as the engineers who were reported missing. Pictures from several months ago even show at least one of the exact same men.
These guys have been tortured and forced to confess to things they could not have done. You might not see that on Fox but AP and other LSM sources back this up if you just google.

Sorry. It was 5 weeks ago, not months.
TIME (pops) (new window)

schgsyi: Already reported months ago that Iranian Engineers were kidnapped from a project there and it just so happens that these guys have the exact same names as the engineers who were reported missing. Pictures from several months ago even show at least one of the exact same men.
These guys have been tortured and forced to confess to things they could not have done. You might not see that on Fox but AP and other LSM sources back this up if you just google.

Yeah, it's probably unlikely that IRGC-Qods Force would go undercover or anything (new window).

cbackous: Does this mean they will close the strait of hormel again?

The Strait of Hormel?

Stabone33: schgsyi: Already reported months ago that Iranian Engineers were kidnapped from a project there and it just so happens that these guys have the exact same names as the engineers who were reported missing. Pictures from several months ago even show at least one of the exact same men.
These guys have been tortured and forced to confess to things they could not have done. You might not see that on Fox but AP and other LSM sources back this up if you just google.

Yeah, it's probably unlikely that IRGC-Qods Force would go undercover or anything (new window).

Freedom fighters would never do that

Miss Stein: Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)


To the Syrians' advantage, it probably wasn't difficult picking them out in a crowd.

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Remarks like this make me wonder how silly the continental army re-enactors must look to other cultures.

Sir Roderick Glossop: 2wolves: So they like having their own Saddam Hussein just as the U.S. did?

*YAWN*

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I find your lack of reality disturbing.

2wolves: I find your lack of reality disturbing.

Recycling the tired old pap and pablum from almost a decade ago in a conversation where it's relevance is a stretch at best is similarly disturbing.

/your talking points- they're shopworn

Kanemano: Am I the only one wondering where the Syrian rebels received their arms and training, enough to challenge the national army and to take hostages of either idiots of Iranian decent (easy) or trained operatives (Hard)

Probably, since the rebels are regular Syrian army defectors. That's obviously were they got their training and weapons from.

The problem the Syrian army has, like any army would, is that they're told that they are to protect Syria from Israel and USA. Turning around and telling them that they are to shoot at their fellow Syrians doesn't play well with army conscripts, which is why they defect.

Egypt had the exact same problem, were the army simply refused to shoot at their own people when ordered to.

Sir Roderick Glossop: 2wolves: I find your lack of reality disturbing.

Recycling the tired old pap and pablum from almost a decade ago in a conversation where it's relevance is a stretch at best is similarly disturbing.

/your talking points- they're shopworn

My talking points are reality points are factually based. It's not pap when it's real.