FARK.com: (6907639) In yet another example of President Obama's pusillanimous "do-nothing" behavior, details emerge that Obama went ahead with the Bin Laden raid despite the advice of most of his advisers to back away from the mission

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		In yet another example of President Obama's pusillanimous "do-nothing" behavior, details emerge that Obama went ahead with the Bin Laden raid despite the advice of most of his advisers to back away from the mission (foxnews.com)		255
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teto85		2012-01-28 04:03:14 AM

The President has 99 problems and Bin Laden ain't one of them.

Osama Bin Dead.

AmorousRedDragon		2012-01-28 04:19:04 AM

"He knew what was at stake. Not just the lives of those brave warriors, but literally the presidency, and he pulled the trigger," Biden said. "This guy doesn't lead from behind -- he just leads."

But was he in the room, personally holding the rifle that shot Bin Laden? No? Then the credit goes to Bush.

2wolves		2012-01-28 06:22:33 AM

AmorousRedDragon: "He knew what was at stake. Not just the lives of those brave warriors, but literally the presidency, and he pulled the trigger," Biden said. "This guy doesn't lead from behind -- he just leads."

But was he in the room, personally holding the rifle that shot Bin Laden? No? Then the credit goes to Bush.

Which makes Sarah Palin president.

Relatively Obscure		2012-01-28 06:42:57 AM

I heard it violates Sharia law for a Muslim to use infidels to kill another Muslim.2wolves: AmorousRedDragon: "He knew what was at stake. Not just the lives of those brave warriors, but literally the presidency, and he pulled the trigger," Biden said. "This guy doesn't lead from behind -- he just leads."

But was he in the room, personally holding the rifle that shot Bin Laden? No? Then the credit goes to Bush.

Which makes Sarah Palin president.

It's right there in the Constitution.

mr_a		2012-01-28 06:52:37 AM

I am not a big Obama fan, but I give the man credit for ordering that mission. And no, he wasn't in physical danger like the Seals, but political suicide if it screws up. Ask Jimmy Carter.

robmilmel		2012-01-28 06:55:50 AM

Relatively Obscure: I heard it violates Sharia law for a Muslim to use infidels to kill another Muslim.2wolves: AmorousRedDragon: "He knew what was at stake. Not just the lives of those brave warriors, but literally the presidency, and he pulled the trigger," Biden said. "This guy doesn't lead from behind -- he just leads."

But was he in the room, personally holding the rifle that shot Bin Laden? No? Then the credit goes to Bush.

Which makes Sarah Palin president.

It's right there in the Constitution.

Yep-one of the parts we DON'T want to change...well,right this second, anyway...

hubiestubert		2012-01-28 07:59:28 AM

It's this sort of toxic passivity that threatens the entire structure of the government with its ignorance of protocol. By rampaging out of control, with no adherence to civil authority, the Obama Administration's gracile quiescence and submission to Islamic extremists--brought on by his Jihadist education and the fiery rhetoric of Reverend Wright--this President's lack of control, foresight, and compliance to terrorism is a danger to us all, and our military. His use of force puts them into danger, and his lack of support by bringing units to full strength before deploying shows his inability to respond with vigor to threats. Truly, he is America's greatest monster, and should be tried for his war crimes.

Sarah Palin, of course, should assume control of the government, as by the popular decree of the last election, stolen with math and votes last election, and in order to avoid such tragedy in the future, a No Take-Backsie Rule should be implemented immediately. Milk and cookies to be served after, in perpetuity.

AirForceVet		2012-01-28 08:05:20 AM

Wait, Fox News actually ran a story complimenting President Obama?

/When did Fark freeze over?

EnviroDude		2012-01-28 08:21:50 AM

teto85: The President has 99 problems and Bin Laden ain't one of them.

Osama Bin Dead.

When the key to the success of your foreign policy is killing a guy overseas and an American, you don't have much to hang your record on.

RedPhoenix122		2012-01-28 08:26:09 AM

AirForceVet: Wait, Fox News actually ran a story complimenting President Obama?

/When did Fark freeze over?

It's probably a set-up to an editorial about how Obama is a "loose cannon" and "cannot be trusted".

SmackLT		2012-01-28 08:28:26 AM

mr_a: I am not a big Obama fan, but I give the man credit for ordering that mission. And no, he wasn't in physical danger like the Seals, but political suicide if it screws up. Ask Jimmy Carter.

I'm not a Democrat, but I voted for Obama. And things like this remind me why I like him. He's not perfect (no president is), but he makes hard decisions for the right reasons.

GAT_00		2012-01-28 08:31:13 AM

SmackLT: mr_a: I am not a big Obama fan, but I give the man credit for ordering that mission. And no, he wasn't in physical danger like the Seals, but political suicide if it screws up. Ask Jimmy Carter.

I'm not a Democrat, but I voted for Obama. And things like this remind me why I like him. He's not perfect (no president is), but he makes hard decisions for the right reasons.

I personally have many problems with him, but not really on foreign policy.

SmackLT		2012-01-28 08:40:44 AM

GAT_00: I personally have many problems with him, but not really on foreign policy.

Yeah, not perfect, although I've seen several of his initiatives die because congress didn't share his vision or were too fearful of the political risks. Has he chased down every little thing? No. But I think his focus overall is in the right places.

Party Boy		2012-01-28 08:55:37 AM

kronicfeld		2012-01-28 09:13:21 AM

EnviroDude: When the key to the success of your foreign policy is killing a guy overseas

Should he have bolstered his foreign policy credentials by killing a guy locally?

Sleeping Monkey		2012-01-28 09:29:31 AM

EnviroDude: When the key to the success of your foreign policy is killing a guy overseas and an American, you don't have much to hang your record on.

The irony of your ignorance grows daily

TheOther		2012-01-28 09:39:44 AM

kronicfeld: EnviroDude: When the key to the success of your foreign policy is killing a guy overseas

Should he have bolstered his foreign policy credentials by killing a guy locally?

That's more of a domestic policy boost. Ask Rick Perry.

Mugato		2012-01-28 10:04:29 AM

AmorousRedDragon: But was he in the room, personally holding the rifle that shot Bin Laden? No? Then the credit goes to Bush.

That was a joke, right?

chimp_ninja		2012-01-28 10:09:02 AM

mr_a: I am not a big Obama fan, but I give the man credit for ordering that mission. And no, he wasn't in physical danger like the Seals, but political suicide if it screws up. Ask Jimmy Carter.

Exactly. And he's made this kind of call several times-- Somali pirate hostage situation at sea, Osama raid, and last week's hostage rescue. He's also been very aggressive in calling in drone strikes to kill al-Qaeda operatives. The Obama Doctrine stresses pinpoint assassinations over large-scale military operations. It's inexpensive, rapid, and limits collateral damage.

If anything, the legitimate criticism comes from the left for violating other nations' sovereignty, which he's done with impunity, and it does hamper our diplomatic stance on other issues.

Give Bush the same intel about Osama and he's probably asking his team to come up with excuses to justify invading Pakistan.

tenpoundsofcheese		2012-01-28 10:09:13 AM

We know that he surrounds himself with idiots, so there is no news here.

chimp_ninja		2012-01-28 10:10:01 AM

Mugato: AmorousRedDragon: But was he in the room, personally holding the rifle that shot Bin Laden? No? Then the credit goes to Bush.

That was a joke, right?

Poe's Law strikes again.

Mugato		2012-01-28 10:10:39 AM

EnviroDude: When the key to the success of your foreign policy is killing a guy overseas and an American, you don't have much to hang your record on.

Ok, I'm admittedly not good at this but that one was definitely a joke, right?

tenpoundsofcheese		2012-01-28 10:12:15 AM

FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "

This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.

No wonder the administration is so lame.

PsiChi		2012-01-28 10:14:57 AM

Who actually still believes that Obama killed Osama?

HotWingConspiracy		2012-01-28 10:15:48 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "

This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.

No wonder the administration is so lame.

President Obama appreciates your support. You correctly point out he still managed to kill bin Laden in spite of it all. It's refreshing to see you sing his praises.

hillbillypharmacist		2012-01-28 10:16:10 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "
This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.
No wonder the administration is so lame.

I can't top that, so here's a guy humping the air.
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HotWingConspiracy		2012-01-28 10:16:58 AM

PsiChi: Who actually still believes that Obama killed Osama?

Pretty much everyone.

FlashHarry		2012-01-28 10:17:09 AM

chimp_ninja: Poe's Law strikes again.

sadly, yes.

Satanic_Hamster		2012-01-28 10:18:04 AM

Remember: Obama had nothing to do with the raid, the SEALS went on their own after being ordered to stay in their bases by the pussy Obama. Obama deserves no credit for this. Unless everything went wrong, then it would be been his fault.

ItsMyNameYouCantHaveIt		2012-01-28 10:18:34 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "

This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.

No wonder the administration is so lame.

so, you just have back-up jobs waiting for you then huh?

Wyalt Derp		2012-01-28 10:18:53 AM

This week he's Dictatorbama, overruling the experts and subverting Democracy & the American way.

hillbillypharmacist		2012-01-28 10:19:35 AM

PsiChi: Who actually still believes that Obama killed Osama?

What is the name of the charge against a mob boss when he tells a henchman to kill someone, and the henchman is successful?

Murder.

apoptotic		2012-01-28 10:20:14 AM

FTA: "Biden recalled the scene to illustrate his point that Obama showed leadership and, in his words, has a "backbone like a ramrod."

Unfortunately it'll be spun to illustrate the point that either Obama botched it when he chose his advisers or that he's a dictator whose ego won't allow him to follow their advice.

Forgot_my_password_again		2012-01-28 10:20:31 AM

It was fun watching my conservative fb friends try to spin it against Obama after bin laden was killed.

They were more interested in trying to shift credit away from Obama than anything else.

hugram		2012-01-28 10:21:57 AM

How can you give Zerobammi credit for the killing of OBL? For God's sake, he was playing Nintendo while the raid was going on.

hillbillypharmacist		2012-01-28 10:23:49 AM

hugram: Zerobammi

It's 'Obuttma' this week. FYI.

ha-ha-guy		2012-01-28 10:24:06 AM

mr_a: I am not a big Obama fan, but I give the man credit for ordering that mission. And no, he wasn't in physical danger like the Seals, but political suicide if it screws up. Ask Jimmy Carter.

Exactly. We played around with special warfare, hostage rescue, and all that shiat back in the day and more times than not shiat went South. So we formed up SOCOM, DEVGRU, etc. Yet a lot of presidents still don't use them out of fear the mission will fark up like the Iranian hostage rescue. Penetrations into foreign airspace or having some guys walk 5 klicks to go rescue some hostages always have a chance to fail and Obama gets credit for being willing to roll the dice.

tenpoundsofcheese		2012-01-28 10:24:32 AM

HotWingConspiracy: tenpoundsofcheese: FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "

This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.

No wonder the administration is so lame.

President Obama appreciates your support. You correctly point out he still managed to kill bin Laden in spite of it all. It's refreshing to see you sing his praises.

Yes, he killed 0sama despite the fact that he is such a weak leader that he has hired and supported an incredibly weak team that is more worried about their jobs than doing their job.

Paid RNC Shill		2012-01-28 10:25:13 AM

So he had a room full of people begging him not to kill a man and he went ahead and pulled the trigger anyway. That makes him a psychpath in my book.

Carth		2012-01-28 10:25:18 AM

So Obama's ego causes him to ignore the advice of professionals and risks soldiers lives based on his own assumptions. Sounds like Obama got lucky this time, hopefully American troops don't have to die when he makes a mistake.

tenpoundsofcheese		2012-01-28 10:27:24 AM

apoptotic: FTA: "Biden recalled the scene to illustrate his point that Obama showed leadership and, in his words, has a "backbone like a ramrod."

We all listen to the comments of Biden as if they were the truth. Did he say those comments with an Indian accent?

Masso		2012-01-28 10:27:36 AM

It sickened me to think many people wouldn't give Obama credit for this. There is a high chance that this raid could have gone wrong and he would take the fall, but he gave it a go. Gave credit when it's due, he took the risk, he get the credit.

Halli		2012-01-28 10:28:29 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: HotWingConspiracy: tenpoundsofcheese: FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "

This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.

No wonder the administration is so lame.

President Obama appreciates your support. You correctly point out he still managed to kill bin Laden in spite of it all. It's refreshing to see you sing his praises.

Yes, he killed 0sama despite the fact that he is such a weak leader that he has hired and supported an incredibly weak team that is more worried about their jobs than doing their job.

tenpoundsofcheese: apoptotic: FTA: "Biden recalled the scene to illustrate his point that Obama showed leadership and, in his words, has a "backbone like a ramrod."

We all listen to the comments of Biden as if they were the truth. Did he say those comments with an Indian accent?

Watching the GOP shill cry just makes this even more sweet.

Arkanaut		2012-01-28 10:29:50 AM

mr_a: I am not a big Obama fan, but I give the man credit for ordering that mission. And no, he wasn't in physical danger like the Seals, but political suicide if it screws up. Ask Jimmy Carter.

I think there was a story on NPR just this week or maybe late last week on the Iranian hostage rescue attempt -- Carter was quoted as saying his one regret was not sending one more helicopter on that mission (presumably one that wouldn't crash). Sounds like Obama learned that lesson -- that second Blackhawk really came in handy.

hugram		2012-01-28 10:30:03 AM

hillbillypharmacist: hugram: Zerobammi

It's 'Obuttma' this week. FYI.

Whatever... That Socialist-Facist, Muslim-Atheist needs to go. I'm tired of my 401K going higher and higher since Jan of 2009. Doesn't Obuttma know that it cost more now for me to buy the same shares I used to buy when the stock market was crashing in 2008?

Nemo's Brother		2012-01-28 10:30:55 AM

Obama has done a lot wrong, but Bin Laden is not one of them. He took a risk and it paid off. He diserves props for killing a bad guy.

TFerWannaBe		2012-01-28 10:30:55 AM

Sleeping Monkey: EnviroDude: When the key to the success of your foreign policy is killing a guy overseas and an American, you don't have much to hang your record on.

The irony of your ignorance grows daily

He's not ignorant, just selectively informed.

tenpoundsofcheese		2012-01-28 10:32:29 AM

Halli: tenpoundsofcheese: HotWingConspiracy: tenpoundsofcheese: FTFA: "The official said many in the room were worried about losing their jobs should the mission go wrong. "

This is all you need to know how how strong those people are and how bad 0bama is in building a strong team. They are worried about losing their job instead of doing the right thing.

No wonder the administration is so lame.

President Obama appreciates your support. You correctly point out he still managed to kill bin Laden in spite of it all. It's refreshing to see you sing his praises.

Yes, he killed 0sama despite the fact that he is such a weak leader that he has hired and supported an incredibly weak team that is more worried about their jobs than doing their job.

tenpoundsofcheese: apoptotic: FTA: "Biden recalled the scene to illustrate his point that Obama showed leadership and, in his words, has a "backbone like a ramrod."

We all listen to the comments of Biden as if they were the truth. Did he say those comments with an Indian accent?

Watching the GOP shill cry just makes this even more sweet.

I enjoy watching about the 0bama nuts fail to acknowledge that he has surrounded himself with people who are afraid to make decisions because they might be fired. Even a decision about killing 0sama. Classic.

hillbillypharmacist		2012-01-28 10:32:44 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: We all listen to the comments of Biden as if they were the truth. Did he say those comments with an Indian accent?

Yes. The transcript says: "Great Spirit has given Chief Obamum got heap big bone of back"

apoptotic		2012-01-28 10:33:18 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: apoptotic: FTA: "Biden recalled the scene to illustrate his point that Obama showed leadership and, in his words, has a "backbone like a ramrod."

We all listen to the comments of Biden as if they were the truth. Did he say those comments with an Indian accent?

I find it hilarious that you cropped out what I said about that quote after you posted a handful of times proving me right.

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