In before the global warming climate change conspiracy theorists.

Winter here in southeast Michigan has sucked so far. So far we've only gotten one snow storm that left more than an inch, and two days later it rained and it all melted away. It's better than the ice storm we got last year(some parts of my town were without power for a week), but still, it's hard to go drunk sledding when there's no farking snow on the ground.

ah, so this is one of the many threads to get people jabbering about bullshiat.....

Scruffinator: Winter here in southeast Michigan has sucked so far. So far we've only gotten one snow storm that left more than an inch, and two days later it rained and it all melted away. It's better than the ice storm we got last year(some parts of my town were without power for a week), but still, it's hard to go drunk sledding when there's no farking snow on the ground.

You sled... on top of drunks? Interesting.

I just farted, and my pants feel a bit warmer, so I think that's a sign of global warming. I kinda like it.

But since La Niña can persist for years, Cayan said he suspected it was unlikely California would catch up on rain and snowfall this year.

"We're so far behind right now," he said.

Caught up last year, same situation

Scruffinator: Winter here in southeast Michigan has sucked so far. So far we've only gotten one snow storm that left more than an inch, and two days later it rained and it all melted away. It's better than the ice storm we got last year(some parts of my town were without power for a week), but still, it's hard to go drunk sledding when there's no farking snow on the ground.

You shut your whore mouth. This warm winter is truly a miracle from God.

Lower 48? Hawaii is the southernmost state.

The lake outside my house normally freezes up in November but it didn't start freezing up until a couple weeks ago. There was going to be a pond hockey tournament but I think they're canceling it due to thin ice.

jst3p: In before the global warming climate change conspiracy theorists.

What? You want a cookie or something?

I love the warm weather...

Wouldn't mind leaving the humidity in this thread...

JohnnyC: What? You want a cookie or something?

Sure, I like oatmeal raisin.

The biggest misconception about global climate change is that it only happens to you. It is something that is affection the whole world in ways we are only beginning to realize. The debate shouldn't be on how it was started, but how to stop it.

can you say Global? i knew ya could.

JohnnyC: ...they're canceling it due to thin ice.

Pussies

Those stupid climate change idiots with their facts and theories and desire to know what's really going on.

Headline understand it I don't.

Yeah, at the end of the summer and in fall, we were told to brace for a particularly harsh winter. Meanwhile, this is the mildest winter I've ever experienced here (Been in Chicago 8 years now, lived on the Illinois/Wisconsin border the first 8 years of my life).

It's all guesswork in a white coat shoddy suit.

Those weather dudes in Oklahoma, though (where I lived for 15 years), have their shiat together. Gary England should get some kind of humanitarian award for his tornado warnings.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: JohnnyC: ...they're canceling it due to thin ice.

Pussies

I haven't seen even one person out there trying to ice fish at all either.

tankjr: Scruffinator: Winter here in southeast Michigan has sucked so far. So far we've only gotten one snow storm that left more than an inch, and two days later it rained and it all melted away. It's better than the ice storm we got last year(some parts of my town were without power for a week), but still, it's hard to go drunk sledding when there's no farking snow on the ground.

You shut your whore mouth. This warm winter is truly a miracle from God.

THIS. Thank you. Any time without winter in the midwest is a great time.

Global warming will be when a farking volcano erupts and slathers your buttocks in magma.

Until then, it's just weather changes.

This is the first winter I've spent in Nebraska in my 38 years on this Earth where it's been mostly 50 degrees Fahrenheit instead of mostly -10 degrees Fahrenheit.

And last week we had "Snowpocalypse" in Seattle.


Meh

tankjr: Scruffinator: Winter here in southeast Michigan has sucked so far. So far we've only gotten one snow storm that left more than an inch, and two days later it rained and it all melted away. It's better than the ice storm we got last year(some parts of my town were without power for a week), but still, it's hard to go drunk sledding when there's no farking snow on the ground.

You shut your whore mouth. This warm winter is truly a miracle from God unregulated industry.

Couldn't resist.

JRoo: This is the first winter I've spent in Nebraska in my 38 years on this Earth where it's been mostly 50 degrees Fahrenheit instead of mostly -10 degrees Fahrenheit.

is there a problem with that?

Could get used to being able to ride my bike in January... just sayin'

kkinnison: The debate shouldn't be on how it was started, but how to stop it.

Really? The earth was both much hotter and much colder on it's own before we got here. I don't deny that we contribute to it but the only thing I can think of that is more laughable than the idea that we cause it is that we can stop it.

I'm loving the mild winter though we really could use the moisture here. I don't get why so many have their panties in a twist over the warming. It's not like it's the first or last time this planet will go through a period of no ice at all. Though the last time this planet had no ice there were 7+ foot long centipedes and I'd really NOT like to be around for that!

butt-nuggets: JRoo: This is the first winter I've spent in Nebraska in my 38 years on this Earth where it's been mostly 50 degrees Fahrenheit instead of mostly -10 degrees Fahrenheit.

is there a problem with that?

Only that I don't get to feel like getting through winter is an accomplishment.

Climates change. Always have, always will, until the earth goes away, and even then some more. Climates will still change.

UberNeuman: ah, so this is one of the many threads to get people jabbering about bullshiat.....

And how does that makes this thread different from all the others?

/To FARK, welcome.

The 2011 hardiness map has 5 new warmers zones!!!

In the short term (e.g. week to week, month to month), "arctic air" is almost a zero-sum phenomenon. If we get a strong cold air intrusion into the central and eastern U.S., that means that air elsewhere must be going TO the source region to replace the air that's moving into the U.S.. In other words, if the air that's coming into the U.S. is coming from a source region in far northern Canada, there must be air elsewhere that's coming into northern Canada to take its place. This is a big generalization, but the point is approximately valid. So, if we have a very cold winter here, it's a good bet that another part of the world at our same latitude is pretty warm.

Global climate change, by definition, addresses long-term global averages and their changes (could be re: temperature, ocean temperatures, precipitation patterns, etc.). In this range (in both time and space), the primary mechanism by which global average temperatures change is by a modification of the radiative balance. At the most basic level, we warm because of incoming solar radiation and we cool because of outgoing longwave radiation. The former (incoming solar radiation) changes daily and seasonally locally, but it is relatively even when averaged over the globe. Changing the concentrations of greenhouse gases significantly affects the radiation equilibrium and thereby allows for changes in the mean global temperature. If you reduce the amount of longwave radiation that is allowed to escape into space and, essentially, "lock" that energy in the troposphere, the result is an increase in tropospheric temperature.

The details can be very sophisticated and complex, but, on the most basic level, it's not that difficult to grasp. There are all sorts of feedbacks involved (albedo feedback, temperature / CO2 feedback, and so forth) that significantly modulate changes to the earth system.

/ Meteorologist
// Reading the latest report from the Yale Center for Climate Change Communication makes me sad for our country

butt-nuggets: Climates change. Always have, always will, until the earth goes away, and even then some more. Climates will still change.

Yes they will, but the rate at which the climate is currently changing will put millions of people underwater in a couple of decades. If you live in Denver, don't worry about it. Miami - maybe you want to move inland a bit.

Apos: An inconvenient truth....

I ain't saying it ain't the case, but...

It's governeck bate. A very convenient cause for those looking for a political superlative on which to hitch their band-wagon.

This is some serious BULLshiat! I should NOT have both my bedroom windows open and my ceiling fan on full power in WINTER!!

jst3p: In before the global warming climate change conspiracy theorists.

I guess you haven't heard about the emails of the IPCC scientists discussing how they'll hide the decline in tree ring density since the correlation doesn't hold true after 1960. It's ignorant people like you who keep this fraud alive. You're worse than christians. at least we can't prove there is no god.

It stays warm most of the time in northern South America. Colombia, for example, unless you are in the mountains.

meat0918: The 2011 hardiness map has 5 new warmers zones!!!

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They just added Puerto Rico, that doesn't count.

/Better to go by the Sunset Wetsern Garden Book zones, waaaaay more accurate for warm-weather gardening.
//zone 23/24