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2012-01-27 08:28:30 PM  
The commission acknowledged that the Rams playing overseas would "elevate an awareness of St. Louis on the global stage." But it added, "Our lease with the Rams requires that the Rams play all their home games in the Edward Jones Dome."

"Boy, we'd LOVE to let the Rams play in London for a few home games, but I mean look at this lease! It's just ironclad! Not that our deal couldn't be... altered... if we came to the right... arrangement."
 
2012-01-27 08:33:18 PM  
More reason for the Rams to relocate. Come back to L.A! Georgia Frontiere is dead, all is forgiven!
 
2012-01-27 09:30:07 PM  
They want to give up home field advantage for a game? Poor Sam Bradford, what a waste of talent.
 
2012-01-27 09:34:04 PM  
Screw them. I'm a London Jets fan!

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2012-01-27 09:49:26 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: More reason for the Rams to relocate. Come back to L.A! Georgia Frontiere is dead, all is forgiven!


I truly think they should. Not because I don't think the Dome is a bad place, or the city is a bad city. It's just that deep down, we all know they belong in LA.
 
2012-01-27 10:26:13 PM  
In the mean time, start on buying old Los Angeles Rams gear on ebay before it becomes hot/relevant again.
 
2012-01-27 10:36:18 PM  
How about this as a compromise? Let the Rams play all four preseason games in St. Louis.
 
2012-01-27 10:38:08 PM  
Leave England alone.

These games remind me of evangelical missionaries going over to Russia or India or Honduras to "bring Jebus' message" to the poor benighted heathens.

News Flash: They've heard of your stupid cracker sport/religion.

News Update: They've already got one.

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2012-01-27 10:38:50 PM  

hbk72777: In the mean time, start on buying old Los Angeles Rams gear on ebay before it becomes hot/relevant again.


I have an old LA Rams starter jacket (and Stl Rams hat) . . haven't checked, but I don't think it's worth anything. Is really olde Cleveland Rams gear even worth anything?
 
2012-01-27 10:40:26 PM  
Also, I'm not sure that I'd remain a Rams fan if they moved to London. Getting pretty bored with sports anyway . . .
 
2012-01-27 10:44:24 PM  
This is a poker game between St. Louis and Stan. And Stan's holding pocket aces.
 
2012-01-27 11:05:32 PM  

FishyFred: The commission acknowledged that the Rams playing overseas would "elevate an awareness of St. Louis on the global stage." But it added, "Our lease with the Rams requires that the Rams play all their home games in the Edward Jones Dome."

"Boy, we'd LOVE to let the Rams play in London for a few home games, but I mean look at this lease! It's just ironclad! Not that our deal couldn't be... altered... if we came to the right... arrangement."


I think they are afraid that if the Rams are allowed to alter the deal that they will have to pray that it is not altered further
 
2012-01-27 11:10:35 PM  

konigsforst: Also, I'm not sure that I'd remain a Rams fan if they moved to London. Getting pretty bored with sports anyway . . .


I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. I generally lost interest in them around 2005 or so, and while I started to pay closer attention last year, this year was a real kick in the gonads. If he wants to move 'em to London or back to LA, let him. It's kind of fun to watch games with no avid rooting interest. If Kroenke wants a sweet new publicly-funded stadium deal, he's sure as hell not getting one in Missouri (even Busch Stadium III wasn't built fully with taxpayer money, and the Cards are the most popular pro team in the state).
 
2012-01-27 11:29:02 PM  
I'm from Cleveland, but live in California. Been a fan for decades . . . long story w/ lots of uninteresting reasons. Just meant that I'm not sure I could be a fan of a London-based team.
 
2012-01-27 11:39:57 PM  
Oh well....


I'm more pissed that the Pats have to travel to that Limey shiat-pit again next year. It wasnt long ago, yet they are there again.


Let the over-hyped Harbaughs play their sibling rivalry across the pond.

/seeing Ray Lewis stab white chicks in Trafalgar Square would be priceless
 
2012-01-28 02:33:48 AM  

madden101: konigsforst: Also, I'm not sure that I'd remain a Rams fan if they moved to London. Getting pretty bored with sports anyway . . .

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. I generally lost interest in them around 2005 or so, and while I started to pay closer attention last year, this year was a real kick in the gonads. If he wants to move 'em to London or back to LA, let him. It's kind of fun to watch games with no avid rooting interest. If Kroenke wants a sweet new publicly-funded stadium deal, he's sure as hell not getting one in Missouri (even Busch Stadium III wasn't built fully with taxpayer money, and the Cards are the most popular pro team in the state).


How much would Illinois pay for them to play across the river?
 
2012-01-28 03:29:52 AM  
A section of the lease calls for the team "to play all its home NFL Games (other than pre-season NFL Games) at the Facilities."

Why can't we make the limeys watch shiatty preseason football? Hmmm? We could give them 4 weeks of games in London. Not like they'd know the difference anyways.
 
2012-01-28 03:52:59 AM  
are there really that many expats in London that will watch the stupid Rams?
 
2012-01-28 04:22:28 AM  
The NFL having a team in Europe will never work, people there don't know or care about American football. How about a team in Toronto or Vancouver first? Of course that would piss off the CFL a lot but it isn't like the NFL cares anyway.
 
2012-01-28 08:09:26 AM  
As a Londoner, I approve this message
 
2012-01-28 09:42:47 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: How much would Illinois pay for them to play across the river?


I can't imagine anywhere near as much. Between the state government being in more financial trouble and the fact that, I would guess, the overwhelming majority of fans in the state are Bears fans, it would be hard to get the public to go for a Rams stadium.
 
2012-01-28 10:13:37 AM  
Move to the London Rams to the AFC East and the Los Angeles Bills to the NFC West. There, perfect geographical symmetry.
 
2012-01-28 10:30:06 AM  

Lone Stranger: Screw them. I'm a London Jets fan!


Dave Lister and Jim Bexley Speed approve.
 
2012-01-28 10:43:22 AM  

JJRRutgers: Move to the London Rams to the AFC East and the Los Angeles Bills to the NFC West. There, perfect geographical symmetry.


Jaguars are going to be moved before the Rams
 
2012-01-28 07:23:17 PM  
If there was a contest where you could choose 5 days in Indy + Super Bowl tix or 5 days in London + Rams tix I would MUCH rather win the London trip
 
2012-01-28 07:40:08 PM  
macadamnut: These games remind me of evangelical missionaries going over to Russia or India or Honduras to "bring Jebus' message" to the poor benighted heathens.
News Flash: They've heard of your stupid cracker sport/religion.
News Update: They've already got one.


But...but....American football is the greatest sport ever, I've been told that for at least the last 20 years. If only those Russians or Indians or Hondurans watched American wankball a lot, they'd be huge fans, they just don't know the sport!

See, that was easy to type because it's the exact same "reasoning" that soccer fans have used in the US. Soccer will never be as popular in the US as even the NHL, that was all hype because Joe & Mary would get a few hours of peace from their little terrors by signing them up for AYSO. People saw how popular AYSO was and stupidly thought "There's are future fanbase". Um, no.

Would love to see the Rams back in Los Angeles, it would be nice if the AEG Farmer's Field got built and they were the tenants, I'm a 15 minute bus ride away. Unfortunately, AEG would want a piece of the team, don't know if Kroenke would do that.
 
2012-01-28 08:19:30 PM  

Henry Holland: But...but....American football is the greatest sport ever, I've been told that for at least the last 20 years. If only those Russians or Indians or Hondurans watched American wankball a lot, they'd be huge fans, they just don't know the sport!


I dunno, my dad is an immigrant who grew up loving soccer but as soon as I taught him the rules of the game and he was able to understand them without asking me, football became his favorite sport.
 
2012-01-29 12:21:37 PM  

macadamnut: Leave England alone.


From Wikipedia, Attendence of Games at Wembley Field (London):

2007: 81,176
2008: 83,226
2009: 84,254
2010: 83,941
2011: 76,981

In the US the median of the average attendances at all stadiums for 2010 was ~67,300. Granted, they probably sell more tickets in England cause it's a once a year thing, but contrary to your statement there does seem to be a viable market for the game there.
 
2012-01-29 01:24:27 PM  

Ecliptic: macadamnut: Leave England alone.

From Wikipedia, Attendence of Games at Wembley Field (London):

2007: 81,176
2008: 83,226
2009: 84,254
2010: 83,941
2011: 76,981

In the US the median of the average attendances at all stadiums for 2010 was ~67,300. Granted, they probably sell more tickets in England cause it's a once a year thing, but contrary to your statement there does seem to be a viable market for the game there.


Wembley's capacity is about 20,000 higher than typical NFL stadium. The NFL TV contract also kind of encourages smaller stadium capacity because games aren't shown locally unless there is a sell out. The NFL has clearly drummed interest in England, but I doubt a franchise would be sustainable as things stand right now. Remember NFL Europe? Those games averaged about 20,000 people per game. Granted the players weren't as good and the execution was flawed, but I think it's pretty evident that football doesn't have a financially viable market in the UK right now. Hell the reason why the London monarchs folded was because of dismal attendance.
 
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