Sorry Richard, you're wrong. A Newt nomination would force the Republican party and every serious candidate on all levels to run opposed to the standard bearer of their party. I understand you are trying to show the Freepers and Teabaggers of the world that Newt scares Democrats so they fight harder for him, but Newt doesn't scare Democrats.

Republican candidates would have to constantly reject everything that Newt says if they want to appeal to moderates and Democrats. Every Senate candidate, House Candidate, Governor, state legislator. Top to bottom, Newt would end the Republican party as we know it, and in doing so would turn off the super majority of voters 35 and younger from ever voting GOP in their life.

It's a rare Reverse Concern Troll.

I think they overestimate his odds... it's 0%.

oh good, another libtard talking about who they want or don't want to run against 0bama.

NewportBarGuy: With today's anemic GDP numbers, that percentage is more like 50. If we stop adding jobs and turn negative, President Gingrich will be rallying us to war in Iran and blowing a hole in the deficit with tax cutting bills and defense spending that will put the final nail in our financial coffin.

If he wins, it is the end of the empire.

Aren't empires bad?

Considering that he's not going to win the nomination, his chances actually hover around nil. He is actually pretty irrelevant.

Moot Gingrich.

tenpoundsofcheese: oh good, another libtard talking about who they want or don't want to run against 0bama.

You calling Ann Coulter a libtard? Because s/he'll beat your sorry ass to the ground.

Corvus: I agree the Liberal MSM Mainstream drive by liberal media says Newt can't win.

So you voting for Newt right or do you believe everything the liberal media tells you like a good lib?

The fark kinda doublespeak is that?

I used to think he was in this for the bank. You know, write a book, get some campaign 'contributions', and then leave when the time was right and roll around naked on a wad of cash. I think he now actually believes what he is saying - he honestly thinks he can take Obama.

I agree that I would feel much more comfortable with just about anyone other than Newt on the ticket for this same reason. No less than 35% of the conservative base would still take Gingrich over Obama. For them, any republican at all > Obama, and you all know it. If Obama makes the wrong one mistake in the next ten months that Newt can harp on at the right time, that makes the chances way worse than I ever want to see. Obama def Romney, pls.

enry: I used to think he was in this for the bank. You know, write a book, get some campaign 'contributions', and then leave when the time was right and roll around naked on a wad of cash. I think he now actually believes what he is saying - he honestly thinks he can take Obama.

Crazy people believe they hear voices.

enry: I used to think he was in this for the bank. You know, write a book, get some campaign 'contributions', and then leave when the time was right and roll around naked on a wad of cash. I think he now actually believes what he is saying - he honestly thinks he can take Obama.

I think that's the real reason the GOP establishment fears Newt - his ego truly is that big. He can't be bought off anymore and he wants to be king or the power behind the throne. Well, maybe he could be bought off, but she's going to have to be one hell of a mistress.

ghare: enry: I used to think he was in this for the bank. You know, write a book, get some campaign 'contributions', and then leave when the time was right and roll around naked on a wad of cash. I think he now actually believes what he is saying - he honestly thinks he can take Obama.

Crazy people believe they hear voices.

/FTFY
//and come to think of it, FTFNewt

On the other hand Moonbase Reagan will be pretty cool, right?

Corvus: A Terrible Human: Corvus: I agree the Liberal MSM Mainstream drive by liberal media says Newt can't win.

So you voting for Newt right or do you believe everything the liberal media tells you like a good lib?

The fark kinda doublespeak is that?

Well my point is that all Republicans should vote for Newt because if they don't they are believing what the MSM Liberal media is telling them.

So either they vote for Newt or they believe the MSM Media that they always say is saying things to help Democrats.

No I understood what you were getting at but that was one hell of a way to put it. How long do you think it will be til Fox News just pumps out nonsense like that?

NewportBarGuy: With today's anemic GDP numbers, that percentage is more like 50. If we stop adding jobs and turn negative, President Gingrich will be rallying us to war in Iran and blowing a hole in the deficit with tax cutting bills and defense spending that will put the final nail in our financial coffin.

If he wins, it is the end of the empire.

That empire is why the phrase financial coffin has any relevance to the US. Empires die. It's a historical constant.

This isn't concern trolling, it's legit worry. Be careful about taking too much glee in a clearly insane Republican frontrunner. A Euro crash, an American debt crisis of some sort, moderate inflation next year, a Democratic scandal, or Obama flubbing a debate could all easily lead to enough people voting non-Democrat to get him into the White House. Like TFA says, I'll take a high chance of a bad president over a low chance of one who is likely to do some real, lasting, scary damage during his years in office.

Boondock3806: If Obama makes the wrong one mistake in the next ten months that Newt can harp on at the right time, that makes the chances way worse than I ever want to see.

See how many factors have to coincide though? Obama has to make a huge mistake; Newt has to capitalize on it in just the right way at just the right time; Newt has to hope that people forget his history; and Newt has to keep himself from melting down. That fourth one is what defines Newt Gingrich as a person and as a candidate. You may have noticed in the debate last night that Romney took a different tack. He was aggressive and challenged Newt's intelligence...and Newt folded in about three seconds flat. He's the very definition of a paper tiger and most Democrats, myself and Obama included, understand how easy it would be to beat this guy. The opposition research on him could fill an entire middle school library. The Clintons and Nancy Pelosi are cackling with glee at the prospect of a Gingrich candidacy.

This is the worst kind of hand-wringing because it is self-defeating. Why would you not want to face a guy with no self control, no scruples, and almost no popular support? Romney is a deeply flawed candidate but he stands the better chance of beating Obama by an order of magnitude. The Electoral Map in a race with Gingrich is totally blue except a small handful of southern states.

Corvus: People Romney is much much much more conservative than you people think.

The only reason why he seemed moderate in Mass. was so he could win and he knew he could use it to make a presidential run. This guy has been ultra conservative for all his life. More so than Newt.

I'd label him an opportunist than ideological conservative. That said, should he become president, he'll have to mark his conservatism in much the same way that a dog pisses on a tree.

Senescent Dawn: This isn't concern trolling, it's legit worry. Be careful about taking too much glee in a clearly insane Republican frontrunner. A Euro crash, an American debt crisis of some sort, moderate inflation next year, a Democratic scandal, or Obama flubbing a debate could all easily lead to enough people voting non-Democrat to get him into the White House. Like TFA says, I'll take a high chance of a bad president over a low chance of one who is likely to do some real, lasting, scary damage during his years in office.



Which is why I'm voting for President Obama.

Can we just put Limbaugh on the GOP ticket so we can all relax?

Is Newt really any worse than Boehner?

Dr.Zom: On the other hand Moonbase Reagan will be pretty cool, right?

Sneaky move to say we won't have it done until his second term - that way it won't count against his re-election chances.

Is there any way we can transport a rogue colony of Mexican drug lords up there too, so we can have a militant border war and immigration debate? Also, there has to be a way to center a giant American flag on the moon and spread it out so that it can be seen from Earth. If Newt doesn't amend his plan to include this, I'll be sorely disappointed.

farkityfarker: Is Newt really any worse than Boehner?

They're both the worst... but in different ways.

culebra: Boondock3806: If Obama makes the wrong one mistake in the next ten months that Newt can harp on at the right time, that makes the chances way worse than I ever want to see.

See how many factors have to coincide though? Obama has to make a huge mistake; Newt has to capitalize on it in just the right way at just the right time; Newt has to hope that people forget his history; and Newt has to keep himself from melting down. That fourth one is what defines Newt Gingrich as a person and as a candidate. You may have noticed in the debate last night that Romney took a different tack. He was aggressive and challenged Newt's intelligence...and Newt folded in about three seconds flat. He's the very definition of a paper tiger and most Democrats, myself and Obama included, understand how easy it would be to beat this guy. The opposition research on him could fill an entire middle school library. The Clintons and Nancy Pelosi are cackling with glee at the prospect of a Gingrich candidacy.

This is the worst kind of hand-wringing because it is self-defeating. Why would you not want to face a guy with no self control, no scruples, and almost no popular support? Romney is a deeply flawed candidate but he stands the better chance of beating Obama by an order of magnitude. The Electoral Map in a race with Gingrich is totally blue except a small handful of southern states.

In a way I think newt embodies the schizophrenic cognitive dissonance thats been endemic in the republican party. he's the insider-outsider statesman-everyman big-small government (depending on what we're talking about) blustering adversary-hapless victim, born of all the incompatible beliefs of the modern republican, and when he is finally thrust into the light of the general election even they will recoil in horror at what has sprung from their loins, but they've carried it to term (we know how they feel about this), and they have to go through with it, "for the children."

farkityfarker: Is Newt really any worse than Boehner?

Newt was the least ethical Speaker. Boehner is the most inept. I have to give Newt the nod, but we will see what Boehner is willing to do to keep from losing his Speakership to Cantor or Ryan.

10%? I think you underestimate his chances.

Corvus: Romney has made a pledge to make all forms of abortion murder and to outlaw form of birth control. He gives millions every year to organization that aren't just anti-gay marriage but anti-gays. This idea people have that he is a moderate is not true at all. It's just a character he portrays to get elected.

It isn't that Gingrich is more or less conservative than Romney. Romney may very well be an arch-conservative. I'm saying that I would prefer that to a man who I'm pretty sure is an erratic sociopath. Picture Gingrich with CiC power over the military.

Newt's problem is that most people who are of voting age remember him.

Despite all the talk about Romney's flip flopping he does have one consistent ideology. He is for big business. As president I have no doubt his priorities would be to cut taxes for top earners, remove worker rights, and declaw watchdog groups. He's unacceptable and isn't "just the same as Obama." It isn't a good thing to give him the chance to be president.

I don't want Newt to win either but I think the longer the contest goes, the worse it is for the eventual GOP candidate. Yes a long primary helped Obama but he wasn't facing an incumbent president sitting on a huge warchest. Newt sitting on top is great because he got there by slamming Romney and the only way he stays in the game is to keep damaging him. Polling on Newt shows everyone outside of the base hates his guts so hopefully this establishment vs. base tension keeps going as well because that will demotivate conservative voters.

So I wish Newt a long and not quite successful campaign for the nomination.

Corvus: Karma Curmudgeon: Corvus: People Romney is much much much more conservative than you people think.

The only reason why he seemed moderate in Mass. was so he could win and he knew he could use it to make a presidential run. This guy has been ultra conservative for all his life. More so than Newt.

I'd label him an opportunist than ideological conservative. That said, should he become president, he'll have to mark his conservatism in much the same way that a dog pisses on a tree.

He is an opportunist. But look at his life history. It's that of an ultra conservative. You don't give millions to far right anti-gay conservative organization like Romney did and not be ultra conservative.

Look what he has done in the past and what he does when the mainstream press is not looking it's as conservative as Santorum.

But as an opportunist, he'll have to keep that conservatism in check. I think he'd be pretty centrist, actually. He seem that way to me when he was governor anyway. And besides, corporate America likes a stable boat, and he is corporate America personified.