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(Boston Herald) Obvious Lenny Kravitz goes on tour for first time in five years, is angry at modern radio for burying him. "Rock radio won't play anything with horns and pop radio won't play any guitars"   (news.bostonherald.com) divider line 93
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2012-01-27 11:16:30 AM
That's the problem Lenny. You can't disappear for several years and expect to keep moving on up.
 
2012-01-27 11:18:04 AM
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.
Sounds like he wants to get away. He wants to fly away --- yeah yeah.

/And so on...
 
2012-01-27 11:30:08 AM
Saw him in Houston with Blind Melon. Farking awesome concert. Not a csb.
 
2012-01-27 11:31:09 AM
He needs to get back together with, then breakup with Lisa Bonet again. There has to be another good record in that relationship.
 
2012-01-27 11:33:35 AM
Revek: That's the problem Lenny. You can't disappear for several years and expect to keep moving on up.

What you did there. Weezy and George see it; from a de-luxe apartment in the sky.

Eye. Eye.
 
2012-01-27 12:07:31 PM
HeadKase: Saw him in Houston with Blind Melon. Farking awesome concert. Not a csb.

Wow. Did you lose a bet or something?
 
2012-01-27 12:13:56 PM
 
2012-01-27 12:20:31 PM
You see Lenny, we prefer the original artists that you so quaintly think you can hold a candle to.
 
2012-01-27 12:26:03 PM
I dunno, "It Ain't Over Till It's Over" is pretty smooth.
 
2012-01-27 12:27:09 PM
His stuff isn't bad, it's just banal. It's background music. It's good at loud parties where nobody cares what's on the stereo.
 
2012-01-27 12:29:03 PM
And NEITHER will play so-theatrical-you-have-to-turn-off-your-cellphone symphonic black metal, so fark them both.
 
2012-01-27 12:41:35 PM
The Kravitz revival will hit full swing after Hunger Games comes out. He's just laying the groundwork now...
 
2012-01-27 12:44:14 PM
This guy seems to be everywhere
Link (new window)
so maybe it's just you, Lenny
 
2012-01-27 12:50:40 PM
Piece of Cake.
 
2012-01-27 12:50:54 PM
Lenny can get on my nerves after a while, but everyone's ears are different, and there really is no accounting for taste.

That said, the dude's got a serious point about brass, at least. Listen to your favorites from the "classic rock" era and then listen to modern radio. What vanished (other than talent)? Brass. Damned if I know why.
 
2012-01-27 12:51:26 PM
t0.gstatic.com
and i don't know why anyone would listen to lenny kravitz!!!
 
2012-01-27 12:53:03 PM
I freakin' love Motorhead!
 
2012-01-27 12:57:32 PM
He plays all the instruments on his albums and he writes good music. That said, his best stuff really does rise to the top. His greatest hits cd is all you need. The rest is filler.
 
2012-01-27 01:00:38 PM
The radio plays nothing but crap, and Kravitz writes nothing but crap, so I don't see what the problem is.
 
2012-01-27 01:00:54 PM
Saw Kravitz in Yokohama headlining with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Black Eyed Peas. Kravitz's stage presence was miles beyond the BEP, who couldn't sing in a stadium setting and kept whizzing themselves, and the RHCP were terrible and disjointed.
 
2012-01-27 01:08:49 PM
One thing I will say about Lenny Kravitz and his albums, he needs to hire a farking engineer who knows how to record and a producer who knows how to mix. I don't care if he's Mr. Whizzy-Bang musician, if he does his own recordings he doesn't know an audio soundscape from a Thomas Kincaide painting.
 
2012-01-27 01:10:04 PM
TheOtherGuy: Lenny can get on my nerves after a while, but everyone's ears are different, and there really is no accounting for taste.

That said, the dude's got a serious point about brass, at least. Listen to your favorites from the "classic rock" era and then listen to modern radio. What vanished (other than talent)? Brass. Damned if I know why.


Care to list some examples? I've skipped through a few tracks and artists that I consider classic, and came up with the following:

Aerosmith - Dude Looks like a Lady
Cake - loves brass

AC/DC, Led Zep, Floyd (unless you count sax), Dylan, Boston, Creedence, Dire Straits (again, sax), Eagles, and I'm sure it goes on, but I'm stopping scrolling here- I can't think of a single track with a horn part. Maybe my library is anemic, or I can't think right now cuz I'm at work, but to what are you referring? Not snarking, honestly curious.

I know it was big with larger instrumental groups in the late 70s and early 80s, and rock groups occasionally will throw a few notes or phrases in there, but can't specifically recall groups that frequently use them that I'd regard as "classics".
 
2012-01-27 01:10:31 PM
Crewmannumber6: This guy seems to be everywhere
Link (new window)
so maybe it's just you, Lenny


Trombone Shorty is some kind of goddamn prodigy, so it isn't really a fair comparison.

Seriously, I've seen him play since he was a little kid. He mastered circular breathing probably before he even hit puberty.

Most horn players play their whole lives and can't get this technique down.
 
2012-01-27 01:11:15 PM
LeroyBourne: t0.gstatic.com

came for this.
 
2012-01-27 01:13:49 PM
SuperTramp: Nineteen years since it was released, and the song still kicks ass.

God I'm so old. I remember exactly the first time I heard this song.
 
2012-01-27 01:14:18 PM
Mulato people problems.
 
2012-01-27 01:14:27 PM
grinding_journalist: TheOtherGuy: Lenny can get on my nerves after a while, but everyone's ears are different, and there really is no accounting for taste.

That said, the dude's got a serious point about brass, at least. Listen to your favorites from the "classic rock" era and then listen to modern radio. What vanished (other than talent)? Brass. Damned if I know why.

Care to list some examples? I've skipped through a few tracks and artists that I consider classic, and came up with the following:

Aerosmith - Dude Looks like a Lady
Cake - loves brass

AC/DC, Led Zep, Floyd (unless you count sax), Dylan, Boston, Creedence, Dire Straits (again, sax), Eagles, and I'm sure it goes on, but I'm stopping scrolling here- I can't think of a single track with a horn part. Maybe my library is anemic, or I can't think right now cuz I'm at work, but to what are you referring? Not snarking, honestly curious.

I know it was big with larger instrumental groups in the late 70s and early 80s, and rock groups occasionally will throw a few notes or phrases in there, but can't specifically recall groups that frequently use them that I'd regard as "classics".


Come on.

Springsteen, Steely Dan, Earth Wind & Fire, Stevie Wonder, Wings, and Chicago; right off the top of my head.

If you go back to the mid to late 60s there are zillions.
 
2012-01-27 01:15:22 PM
Mugato: I dunno, "It Ain't Over Till It's Over" is pretty smooth.

It is, but most of his other stuff ages about as well as a ripe banana. I've got Believe, If You Can't Say No, and Again still lurking on my iPod and they haven't made it through a full play in probably 5 years.
 
2012-01-27 01:15:59 PM
Lenny opened for U2 last year at the Oakland Colosseum. The crowd was /not/ in to him. There was little to no crowd interaction even though he broke out every single one of his hits. I felt bad for him, but I did enjoy his set.

At one point he came out in the crowd and was standing about 5 feet from me, I just couldn't get my cell phone out fast enough to take a picture :)


/my lawn, get off of it.
 
2012-01-27 01:25:31 PM
Lenny is going to be more remembered for playing Cinna in The Hunger Games than for any of his songs.
 
2012-01-27 01:26:20 PM
Learn to play an instrument you lazy farks.

/time to practice
 
2012-01-27 01:28:16 PM
The creepiest thing I've ever seen was when I got all-access passes to Voodoo Fest. Lenny was playing (I didn't care to see his act), so I went to the backstage area. There was a cake made to look like Lenny's head. Creepy as hell.

/Was drunk as hell
//Free booze
///csb
 
2012-01-27 01:29:31 PM
SuperTramp: Nineteen years since it was released, and the song still kicks ass.

Great Jimi Hendrix cover, indeed.
 
2012-01-27 01:36:05 PM
TheOtherGuy: [...] What vanished (other than talent)? Brass. Damned if I know why.

Keyboards killed horn sections - cheaper, easier to operate, easier to learn - and we are poorer for it.

Had George Martin arranged keyboard solos, the Beatles would be forgotten today. Fortunately, horns were still the way to go at the time.

/with apologies to Billy Preston
 
2012-01-27 01:37:02 PM
Repetitive music is tiresome, and he lost his penchant for hooks awhile ago.
 
2012-01-27 01:38:37 PM
downstairs: The creepiest thing I've ever seen was when I got all-access passes to Voodoo Fest. Lenny was playing (I didn't care to see his act), so I went to the backstage area. There was a cake made to look like Lenny's head. Creepy as hell.

/Was drunk as hell
//Free booze
///csb


I played at Voodoo fest this past year, the day Soundgarden played. Backstage open bar all day; yeegads. We played in the afternoon; by the time soundgarden came on I was practically crawling.

Voodoo treats its artists much better than does Jazzfest. At least the unknown plebs like my band. Another reason to tell Quint Davis to get bent.
 
2012-01-27 01:39:18 PM
Radio has dropped a lot of formerly-big acts I liked, at least in my town (Indianapolis). I keep finding out via some random Internet mention that such-and-such band has put out two more albums since the last single I heard. Well, damn!

So I did the logical thing and dropped terrestrial radio. Hello, Pandora!
 
2012-01-27 01:41:11 PM
Count me among the folks that think he is simply amazing in concert. Never off-key and not a single song sounded shiatty...
/csb
// He's got the Black-Jew Fu!
 
2012-01-27 01:44:14 PM
Zebra!

www.magnetmagazine.com
 
2012-01-27 01:44:37 PM
steveGswine: TheOtherGuy: [...] What vanished (other than talent)? Brass. Damned if I know why.

Keyboards killed horn sections - cheaper, easier to operate, easier to learn - and we are poorer for it.

Had George Martin arranged keyboard solos, the Beatles would be forgotten today. Fortunately, horns were still the way to go at the time.

/with apologies to Billy Preston


While I don't disagree that keyboards have made it easier to phone in what would otherwise would have been arrangements for horns and strings, the way I look at it is they just enrich the musical palate for people who are actually creative.

To use your example, while George Martin made a lot of Beatles songs memorable with great string arrangements, try and imagine the later Beatles material without George Harrison experimenting with stuff like the Moog and the Mellotron. "Here Comes the Sun" comes to mind.
 
2012-01-27 01:47:58 PM
Next time, leave "American Woman" alone.
 
2012-01-27 01:49:46 PM
SuperTramp: Nineteen years since it was released, and the song still kicks ass.

Nineteen years since it was released and the first verse still hasn't started....
 
2012-01-27 01:49:56 PM
Lenny Kravitz sucks yuppy dick
 
2012-01-27 01:51:17 PM
gilgigamesh: downstairs: The creepiest thing I've ever seen was when I got all-access passes to Voodoo Fest. Lenny was playing (I didn't care to see his act), so I went to the backstage area. There was a cake made to look like Lenny's head. Creepy as hell.

/Was drunk as hell
//Free booze
///csb

I played at Voodoo fest this past year, the day Soundgarden played. Backstage open bar all day; yeegads. We played in the afternoon; by the time soundgarden came on I was practically crawling.

Voodoo treats its artists much better than does Jazzfest. At least the unknown plebs like my band. Another reason to tell Quint Davis to get bent.


I'm not in a band, just friends with one that played in 2009, so they hooked me up. Absolutely, though. And they've yet to play Jazz Fest, so I've never been back stage there.

Absolutely, though... VooDoo's amenities are amazing. Even for friends of the band.
 
2012-01-27 01:52:07 PM
grinding_journalist: TheOtherGuy: Lenny can get on my nerves after a while, but everyone's ears are different, and there really is no accounting for taste.

That said, the dude's got a serious point about brass, at least. Listen to your favorites from the "classic rock" era and then listen to modern radio. What vanished (other than talent)? Brass. Damned if I know why.

Care to list some examples? I've skipped through a few tracks and artists that I consider classic, and came up with the following:

Aerosmith - Dude Looks like a Lady
Cake - loves brass

AC/DC, Led Zep, Floyd (unless you count sax), Dylan, Boston, Creedence, Dire Straits (again, sax), Eagles, and I'm sure it goes on, but I'm stopping scrolling here- I can't think of a single track with a horn part. Maybe my library is anemic, or I can't think right now cuz I'm at work, but to what are you referring? Not snarking, honestly curious.

I know it was big with larger instrumental groups in the late 70s and early 80s, and rock groups occasionally will throw a few notes or phrases in there, but can't specifically recall groups that frequently use them that I'd regard as "classics".


I see that Gilgamesh has answered this almost letter-perfect to what I was going to respond. Well done, sir.
 
2012-01-27 01:52:42 PM
People still listen to radio for music?
 
2012-01-27 01:54:47 PM
Well at least they listed him above "Puppet Show" this time. Glass half full and all.
 
2012-01-27 01:56:06 PM
Brass (except for solo instruments) has been for the most part, replaced by synthesiser.
It's still almost impossible to successfully emulate a sax solo with a synth, though.
 
2012-01-27 01:57:42 PM
Rann Xerox: People still listen to radio for music?

Actually, yes. A lot of people still do.
 
2012-01-27 01:58:07 PM
gilgigamesh: Seriously, I've seen him play since he was a little kid. He mastered circular breathing probably before he even hit puberty.

Most horn players play their whole lives and can't get this technique down.


Amateur bass clarinet player here, but I taught myself circular breathing in ten minutes. The fundamentals are the same for any wind instrument. The reason why most musicians don't "get this technique down" is due to lack of need, not the difficulty in skill. It's a skill with a lot of overhead practice for little obvious effect; it's more worked into a piece than part of the piece itself. So while circular breathing by itself is really easy, working it into a piece makes the piece harder, much harder, so the effort needs a payoff. If the technique doesn't make you a better performer, and in most cases circular breathing doesn't, it's not worth it. Pros have enough things to learn without deliberately making things more involved. On the flip side, any amateur can master the technique just from daily routine practice but that's not evidence they're gifted.

It's a neat trick, and anyone aspiring to be a solo flautist ought to at least grow comfortable using it, but trying to find uses for circular breathing is like trying to fix everything around the house with your favorite screwdriver. Some people use circular breathing all the time, but it's as much a matter of piece selection as skill. There are enough pieces soloists can perform in a full career without having to pick one that requires circular breathing, and just because a piece is technically challenging doesn't mean people will want to hear it.
 
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