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(Toledo Blade) Hero Ohio Republican goes rogue on new restrictive voting law: "It's likely to be misused by people for their own political ends to confuse voters about what the rules are for the election"   (toledoblade.com) divider line 33
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2012-01-27 08:41:33 AM
Here's hoping that Ohio Republican is smart enough not to go flying on any small aircraft any time soon.
 
2012-01-27 08:47:56 AM
More interesting is that the Democrats are opposed to repealing the law because they want the referendum to be a political issue in the fall.

Welcome to 21st century America, where pols are so focused on winning elections that they'll secretly support controversy they can run against.
 
2012-01-27 08:48:03 AM
Ouch, careful with that honesty here. Some people get angry with honesty.
 
2012-01-27 09:03:45 AM
Animatronik: More interesting is that the Democrats are opposed to repealing the law because they want the referendum to be a political issue in the fall.

Welcome to 21st century America, where pols are so focused on winning elections that they'll secretly support controversy they can run against.


There's strategy when it comes to supporting certain issues and then there's out-right stupidity. This prevents hinders people from voting Democrat. They're dividing by zero, here.
 
2012-01-27 09:05:28 AM
Animatronik: More interesting is that the Democrats are opposed to repealing the law because they want the referendum to be a political issue in the fall.

Welcome to 21st century America, where pols are so focused on winning elections that they'll secretly support controversy they can run against.


Yeah, funny that they'd want to use Republicans actions against them.
 
2012-01-27 09:08:48 AM
Animatronik: More interesting is that the Democrats are opposed to repealing the law because they want the referendum to be a political issue in the fall.

Welcome to 21st century America, where pols are so focused on winning elections that they'll secretly support controversy they can run against.


I'm pretty certain the Republicans made it a political issue when they passed voter suppression legislation on a party line vote. And they now want to repeal it so they don't have to face the direct wrath of the voters in November. But keep telling yourself both sides are bad.
 
2012-01-27 09:09:06 AM
YAY, and Ohio GOP member actually thinking about the repercussions of a horrible piece of legislation rather than walking in lockstep?!?!?!? I am truly shocked. Husted has been a voice of (semi) reasonable thining against the dipshiats in the Kasich kleptocracy. They should listen to him because a majority of Ohioans might agree.

As for the Dems? Why of course they want to use this to kick Kasich out on his ass. A public referendum is a sensible solution.

Ohio is just like Wisconsin, same scum, different methods of removal.
 
2012-01-27 09:12:28 AM
Where's the obvious tag?
 
2012-01-27 09:14:53 AM
Among its numerous provisions, the law would ... restrict the days and hours that county boards of election could be open for in-person early voting,

What could possible be the motivation for this? What does this improve about our election process?
 
2012-01-27 09:23:24 AM
Karac: Among its numerous provisions, the law would ... restrict the days and hours that county boards of election could be open for in-person early voting,

What could possible be the motivation for this? What does this improve about our election process?


Make sure working people and minorities can't vote. Pretty much. It's part of the nationwide drive to restrict voting, a strategy proposed by ALEC, I'm sure, and adapted by many of the new class of 2010 Tea Tarded Governors. It's all about voter suppression in 2012, if you can't win by campaigning, win by suppressing the vote!
 
2012-01-27 09:24:48 AM
Karac: Among its numerous provisions, the law would ... restrict the days and hours that county boards of election could be open for in-person early voting,

What could possible be the motivation for this? What does this improve about our election process?


Remember '04 and the giant lineups in areas expected to vote more for democrats than republicans?
Because that shortage of polling stations was also totally unrelated to any desire to suppress voting in Ohio
 
2012-01-27 09:25:29 AM
Animatronik: More interesting is that the Democrats are opposed to repealing the law because they want the referendum to be a political issue in the fall.

Welcome to 21st century America, where pols are so focused on winning elections that they'll secretly support controversy they can run against.


Yes. Because we have:
1. A completely Republican-controlled state government that passed this bill which
2. reduces the number of days of pre-election day voting
3. restricts the hours a county board of elections can be open for pre-election day voting and
4. limits the ability of a county to inform citizens about absentee ballots.
5. Then, that Republican-controlled state government found that the citizens hate it so much that they've put it up for a vote of the people.
6. This leads the (Republican) secretary of state to announce a dubious plan to repeal the law...
7. ...not so that the law is gotten rid of, but so that the Republican-controlled state government can make tiny changes and then pass it again under a different number
8. and because he's afraid that if Ohio voters are asked to vote "Yes or no?" to "Do you like this Republican-passed bill to limit the ability and opportunity for Ohio citizens to vote?", they might react against Republicans.
9. The (Republican) state senate president and the (Republican) state house speaker tell him to fark off for various reasons.
10. A Democratic state senator expresses his desire to let the process run its course and let the citizens spend a second straight November overturning ridiculous overreaches by the Republican-controlled state government.

Clearly, the most interesting thing out of that, the only interesting thing, is #10.
 
2012-01-27 09:28:06 AM
Rogue. Thank goodness, he didn't go Commando.
 
2012-01-27 09:31:42 AM
This is what a politician 'should' be, looking out for their constituents, not farking around.
 
2012-01-27 09:39:51 AM
These issues, just like in Wisconsin, are going to force a huge Democratic turnout on election day.

/watch as Obama wins his 2nd term because of Ohio
 
2012-01-27 09:50:21 AM
To borrow from one of the commenters in TFA:

"Agreed. But also to save face. The secretary of state also knows that it will be a presidential election year and with this referendum [to repeal the Republican overreach on voting rights restrictions] and a potential right to work referendum on the ballot, he knows what is going to happen. This all about self preservation and to protect those republicans who are up for election. He also knows this will be a sure way that President Obama will get reelected again"

In other words, Democrats were going to get their base fired up over the referendum, and it would hurt Republicans chances in the state.
 
2012-01-27 09:55:38 AM
PirateFreedom: Karac: Among its numerous provisions, the law would ... restrict the days and hours that county boards of election could be open for in-person early voting,

What could possible be the motivation for this? What does this improve about our election process?

Remember '04 and the giant lineups in areas expected to vote more for democrats than republicans?
Because that shortage of polling stations was also totally unrelated to any desire to suppress voting in Ohio


The only possible non-partisan reason I can think up is that you may supposedly same some money by closing the county board a few hours a day. But even that assumes that whoever is working there is paid hourly, not by salary; and that they actually close instead of staying open but not accepting ballots, and that such action actually sames some huge amount of money each year.
 
2012-01-27 09:56:36 AM
Best damn democracy money can buy...
 
2012-01-27 09:59:29 AM
Would be interesting if he had actually said that.

"It's not the appearance on the ballot that bothers me. It's the campaign surrounding it. It's likely to be misused by people for their own political ends to confuse voters about what the rules are for the election."

He thinks it is the campaign that will be misused..not the law.
 
2012-01-27 10:36:42 AM
Cataholic: Would be interesting if he had actually said that.

"It's not the appearance on the ballot that bothers me. It's the campaign surrounding it. It's likely to be misused by people for their own political ends to confuse voters about what the rules are for the election."

He thinks it is the campaign that will be misused..not the law.


Pretty much. Folks will be incensed by the limitation of their franchise to vote, and that could blow back on folks who supported it. Not the fundamental question of why folks are looking to limit the franchise...
 
2012-01-27 10:41:15 AM
RminusQ: Animatronik: More interesting is that the Democrats are opposed to repealing the law because they want the referendum to be a political issue in the fall.

Welcome to 21st century America, where pols are so focused on winning elections that they'll secretly support controversy they can run against.

Yes. Because we have:
1. A completely Republican-controlled state government that passed this bill which
2. reduces the number of days of pre-election day voting
3. restricts the hours a county board of elections can be open for pre-election day voting and
4. limits the ability of a county to inform citizens about absentee ballots.
5. Then, that Republican-controlled state government found that the citizens hate it so much that they've put it up for a vote of the people.
6. This leads the (Republican) secretary of state to announce a dubious plan to repeal the law...
7. ...not so that the law is gotten rid of, but so that the Republican-controlled state government can make tiny changes and then pass it again under a different number
8. and because he's afraid that if Ohio voters are asked to vote "Yes or no?" to "Do you like this Republican-passed bill to limit the ability and opportunity for Ohio citizens to vote?", they might react against Republicans.
9. The (Republican) state senate president and the (Republican) state house speaker tell him to fark off for various reasons.
10. A Democratic state senator expresses his desire to let the process run its course and let the citizens spend a second straight November overturning ridiculous overreaches by the Republican-controlled state government.

Clearly, the most interesting thing out of that, the only interesting thing, is #10.


Agreed. Husted is an evil little toad. He's merely trying to avoid having the law repealed by referendum so that they can sneak it in later in a manner that will impact the Presidential election. If they pass it in the right time frame, there won't be enough time to get a new referendum issue on the ballot and the law will prohibit people from voting in the November elections.
 
2012-01-27 11:50:16 AM
Karac: PirateFreedom: Karac: Among its numerous provisions, the law would ... restrict the days and hours that county boards of election could be open for in-person early voting,

What could possible be the motivation for this? What does this improve about our election process?

Remember '04 and the giant lineups in areas expected to vote more for democrats than republicans?
Because that shortage of polling stations was also totally unrelated to any desire to suppress voting in Ohio

The only possible non-partisan reason I can think up is that you may supposedly same some money by closing the county board a few hours a day. But even that assumes that whoever is working there is paid hourly, not by salary; and that they actually close instead of staying open but not accepting ballots, and that such action actually sames some huge amount of money each year.


And more over, I would say if there's anything important enough or a government to waste a little money over making as open and easy to do as possible, it'd be voting. Surely from a philosophical and sociological perspective we want to encourage people to vote, not drive them away.
 
2012-01-27 12:01:28 PM
Lipo: Agreed. Husted is an evil little toad. He's merely trying to avoid having the law repealed by referendum so that they can sneak it in later in a manner that will impact the Presidential election. If they pass it in the right time frame, there won't be enough time to get a new referendum issue on the ballot and the law will prohibit people from voting in the November elections.

That was my thought. Repeal it, invalidating the referendum; pass the exact same bill close enough to the election that opponents can't get a referendum on the ballot.
 
2012-01-27 12:21:05 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA Husted going rogue? Like hell.

He realized he dun farked up and is going to look just as bad as the gov when SB 5 got nuked.

It isn't going rogue when you go "Uh oh, I'm gonna get my ass handed to me."

Really, I hate about half the state that buys into the lies of these idiots.

In another light, you Ohio farkers, we need to work out a party in Columbus or something.
 
2012-01-27 12:21:18 PM
Cataholic: Would be interesting if he had actually said that.

"It's not the appearance on the ballot that bothers me. It's the campaign surrounding it. It's likely to be misused by people for their own political ends to confuse voters about what the rules are for the election."

He thinks it is the campaign that will be misused..not the law.



In a sense he's right. Manipulating and confusing people for political gain is not a "misuse" of this law, it's the whole point of it.
 
2012-01-27 12:53:57 PM
Cataholic: Would be interesting if he had actually said that.

"It's not the appearance on the ballot that bothers me. It's the campaign surrounding it. It's likely to be misused by people for their own political ends to confuse voters about what the rules are for the election."

He thinks it is the campaign that will be misused..not the law.


Difficult to say. I can't tell for certain what the antecedent of the bolded "It's" is, the law or the campaign against the law.
 
2012-01-27 01:13:39 PM
Really....no one has said it yet...ahem.....


RINO!
 
2012-01-27 01:18:06 PM
Cinaed: This is what a politician 'should' be, looking out for their constituents, not farking around.

Ummm.. I think he's looking out for himself instead of the people.
 
2012-01-27 02:17:31 PM
RminusQ: Cataholic: Would be interesting if he had actually said that.

"It's not the appearance on the ballot that bothers me. It's the campaign surrounding it. It's likely to be misused by people for their own political ends to confuse voters about what the rules are for the election."

He thinks it is the campaign that will be misused..not the law.

Difficult to say. I can't tell for certain what the antecedent of the bolded "It's" is, the law or the campaign against the law.


Were he referring to the law, he would likely have used the term "elections" instead of "the elections."
 
2012-01-27 02:41:01 PM
trotsky: YAY, and Ohio GOP member actually thinking about the repercussions of a horrible piece of legislation rather than walking in lockstep?!?!?!? I am truly shocked. Husted has been a voice of (semi) reasonable thining against the dipshiats in the Kasich kleptocracy. They should listen to him because a majority of Ohioans might agree.

As for the Dems? Why of course they want to use this to kick Kasich out on his ass. A public referendum is a sensible solution.

Ohio is just like Wisconsin, same scum, different methods of removal.


I looked into this a little more and retract my above post. fark this guy. Slime is slime. What the fark happened to the Ohio GOP? I never remember them being this scummy until 2010.
 
2012-01-27 03:01:27 PM
trotsky: What the fark happened to the Ohio GOP? I never remember them being this scummy until 2010.

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2012-01-27 03:03:51 PM
FloydA: trotsky: What the fark happened to the Ohio GOP? I never remember them being this scummy until 2010.

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Same thing that happened with alot of the country GOP, they went full retard with the Tea Party crap.

Now if Kasich will just decide to drive out of the state and keep driving things can get back to normal (never should have beaten strickland, but hey, lies and party line voting work for some)
 
2012-01-27 05:43:37 PM
Watch out buddy. Speaking sense as a republican will get you ousted.
 
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