and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

What else would you expect from Newt? He IS supposed to be selling himself. How can he do that with the truth?

Honestly I'd be more surprised if they were caught telling the truth.

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

The truth is about as useful to these folks as Bob Dole's dick, Tom Delay's voter Registration card, and Bill Clinton's Bar Card. They're politicians.

That's why these are hardly "debates". They're all on the exact same side of the argument (Obama bad! Obama turrible! Country doomed!).

Seriously, they should get farkin Jesse Ventura or something to "moderate" the next debate.

Just so we can see a moderator of these things who has BALLS who could reply to a candidate with a well thought-out "Seriously?! I mean, that's not even CLOSE to the truth. I mean, what the fark are you even talking about?".

Then I'd watch.

/or go call Noam Chomsky
//or better yet, Julian Assange

I guarantee that if he repeated it 5 times then Fox Swallowers will be drooling out Santorum's nonsense until the end of time.
Repetition trumps reality.

And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

Sounds about right for the GOP these days.

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

That should be his campaign slogan. Ron Paul: 40% truth 60% crazy

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

That good old fashioned Austrian School truth?

can we get some politicians that are better actors please?

I only hear this stuff as clips on the news, and the fake incredulous voice that all the republican candidates affect is bloody annoying. I can only imagine that, if their eyebrows are not firmly welded to their hair line, they've got to be botoxed to hell and back.

Wendy's Chili: xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

I don't really think that's as wild as Romney (and others who call it a moon "colony") are making it out to be. I mean, we've had a flag up there for over 40 years--50 by the end of a hypothetical Gingrich second term--and there could be many benefits to it. China and India are already looking into resource mining on the moon, and it could serve as a launch pad for further space exploration.

I like how hes going to "beat china to the moon"

Uh, Mr. Speaker, we won that contest already.

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Gas stations don't take raw precious metals as acceptable currency.

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Just because some one is spouting the truth, it doesn't mean all their solutions are right. But I'm sure you already knew that.

jakomo002: That's why these are hardly "debates". They're all on the exact same side of the argument (Obama bad! Obama turrible! Country doomed!).

At first glance, I thought you said Obama TURTLE... which makes about as much sense as the rest of the debate 'points'.



Seriously, they should get farkin Jesse Ventura or something to "moderate" the next debate.

Just so we can see a moderator of these things who has BALLS who could reply to a candidate with a well thought-out "Seriously?! I mean, that's not even CLOSE to the truth. I mean, what the fark are you even talking about?".



I dunno. It would be be more like:

JV: Governer Romney, if elected, would you reveal the hidden messages in the Mormon secret texts that show the Freemason alien are setting us with war against the Iranain Reptilians to determine who will rule Nibru?

MR: I would suppport the American people's interest in making sure our Allies in Isreal are not dominated by Iran.

JV: BS! Why won't you share the secrets of Area 51!! Remove your contacts and show us your true eyes! Are you a Builderberger!

jakomo002: That's why these are hardly "debates". They're all on the exact same side of the argument (Obama bad! Obama turrible! Country doomed!).

Seriously, they should get farkin Jesse Ventura or something to "moderate" the next debate.

Just so we can see a moderator of these things who has BALLS who could reply to a candidate with a well thought-out "Seriously?! I mean, that's not even CLOSE to the truth. I mean, what the fark are you even talking about?".

Then I'd watch.

/or go call Noam Chomsky
//or better yet, Julian Assange

They need a cadre of interns fact-checking every statement as it happens so the moderator can return with "well on this date, you said this, here the clip..."

xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

Eh, W said he was going to work on getting us to Mars. He spent more money getting us to a place with little water and lotsa rocks that was WAY closer than Mars.

/free market efficiencies in government?

Wendy's Chili: xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

I don't really think that's as wild as Romney (and others who call it a moon "colony") are making it out to be. I mean, we've had a flag up there for over 40 years--50 by the end of a hypothetical Gingrich second term--and there could be many benefits to it. China and India are already looking into resource mining on the moon, and it could serve as a launch pad for further space exploration.

exploiting resources on the moon is 99% a question of improved robotics.
storing live meat there would be an incredible waste.

unless there is an upheaval in the laws of physics, e.g. antigravity, the only plausible way to exploit the raw sunshine and theoretical resources is robots that can use those to build more robots until industrial qtys

so if you want lots of moon gold invest in a.i. and robotics - not physics constrained rocket ships

wingnut396: xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

Eh, W said he was going to work on getting us to Mars. He spent more money getting us to a place with little water and lotsa rocks that was WAY closer than Mars.

/free market efficiencies in government?

In W's defense for the amount he spent he could have only send 4-5 people to Mars; for the same amount he sent thousands to the middle east.

Carth:

In W's defense for the amount he spent he could have only send 4-5 people to Mars; for the same amount he sent thousands to the middle east.

Hadn't thought that eitehr. Bulk buying, just like Sam's Club or Costco. It works for consumers, should work for the government.

//We need to get a pallet of Marine Core Soldiers and some Master Cheifs to over see them for Iran.

PirateFreedom: Wendy's Chili: xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

I don't really think that's as wild as Romney (and others who call it a moon "colony") are making it out to be. I mean, we've had a flag up there for over 40 years--50 by the end of a hypothetical Gingrich second term--and there could be many benefits to it. China and India are already looking into resource mining on the moon, and it could serve as a launch pad for further space exploration.

exploiting resources on the moon is 99% a question of improved robotics.
storing live meat there would be an incredible waste.

unless there is an upheaval in the laws of physics, e.g. antigravity, the only plausible way to exploit the raw sunshine and theoretical resources is robots that can use those to build more robots until industrial qtys

so if you want lots of moon gold invest in a.i. and robotics - not physics constrained rocket ships

Precisely this. By eliminating the need for life support you eliminate almost all need of constantly supplying the base. Lunar mining will take place with robots, people just take up space, resources, and require constant rotation.

Plus, unless you are going to simply have the moon manufacture things for space only you have to get the resources back to earth in a usuable state.

Wendy's Chili: I don't really think that's as wild as Romney (and others who call it a moon "colony") are making it out to be. I mean, we've had a flag up there for over 40 years--50 by the end of a hypothetical Gingrich second term--and there could be many benefits to it. China and India are already looking into resource mining on the moon, and it could serve as a launch pad for further space exploration.

In the 11 years of the Apollo program, we put 12 people on the moon. Newt wants to put 13,000.

The Apollo program cost the equivalent of $170 billion in 2005 dollars.

CPennypacker: Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

That good old fashioned Austrian School truth?

All I could think of was.......

Gimmie that Austrian School religion
that Austrian school religion
that Austrian school religion

Its good enough for me......

(looking for a something that rhymes with Milton Friedman.......)

Carth: wingnut396: xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

Eh, W said he was going to work on getting us to Mars. He spent more money getting us to a place with little water and lotsa rocks that was WAY closer than Mars.

/free market efficiencies in government?

In W's defense for the amount he spent he could have only send 4-5 people to Mars; for the same amount he sent thousands to the middle east.

Funny, the odds of returning safely are roughly the same as well.

/if they can make up sh:t, so can I

Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

I can see it. The truth is, we're farked for the next 15 years. Who wants to hear that?

Magorn: Wendy's Chili: xcracer: And he's gonna put a base on the moon.

/An American Base
//On the Moon
//By the end of his second term

You can't make this shiat up!

I don't really think that's as wild as Romney (and others who call it a moon "colony") are making it out to be. I mean, we've had a flag up there for over 40 years--50 by the end of a hypothetical Gingrich second term--and there could be many benefits to it. China and India are already looking into resource mining on the moon, and it could serve as a launch pad for further space exploration.

If you really wanted to do it, you'd land a probe filled with self-replicating drilling, prospecting and tunnel machines. You have the prospectors mine for minerals necessary to make new robots, have the drillers mine water and have the tunnelers make a nice cozy human habitrail inside the moon. When you have enough water, deploy the hydroponics module to start growing food and oxygen producing algae. Wait five years, add humans.

The how is easy, the WHY is harder.

hang on, I think I've played the RTS before...

Anti_illuminati: Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Just because some one is spouting the truth, it doesn't mean all their solutions are right. But I'm sure you already knew that.

you gotta start with the truth, otherwise we are all just lying to ourselves, and this vicious cycle continues forever. At least he is honest with the American people that we are going bankrupt

PirateFreedom: Repetition trumps reality.

Thank you for condensing what I was thinking into a nice little package. I'm going to use that one.

PC LOAD LETTER: Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Yes, it is true that we should utterly destroy our financial system and lead to a truly epic global meltdown by virtue of the US completely redoing how currency and finance is handled. Have you picked out your pickle barrel yet?

Our financial system is doing a pretty good job of this on it's own. Going to gold is crazy but we need to kill the FED and give the power to create money back to the government per the constitution.

DozeNutz: Anti_illuminati: Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Just because some one is spouting the truth, it doesn't mean all their solutions are right. But I'm sure you already knew that.

you gotta start with the truth, otherwise we are all just lying to ourselves, and this vicious cycle continues forever. At least he is honest with the American people that we are going bankrupt

Yes and some idiots think that just because he's telling the truth about our problems, that all of his solutions are 100% truth as well. But I guess I can't expect much from population where 31% believe the Bible is the literal word of God.

I want to post in this thread but the concept is so broad. Do I comment on RP or moon bases or lying politicians or FLA or health care or one of the many other topics? Ugh.

What I love most about Yahoo articles is always the comments section. Here is the top 3 when I visited that article:

OBAMA IS A FRAUD !!! - Yet the articles was about Republicans lying shamelessly. Go figure.
Mr Obama, can you please produce any and all certified birth records including a long form birth certificate. - I think were do not have ENOUGH abortions. Or maybe we need to prevent stupid from breeding?

But the real gem:
TERRORIST ALERT! BEWARE !!!
If you are a constant criticizer of this administration you probably have noticed having problems accessing Yahoo, not being able to post at various times when you can access Yahoo, being able to vote thumbs up or down but not able to post, vice versa, and a myriad of other problems with Yahoo. It has been reported that many people who oppose this administration have even received VIRUSES on their computer. THIS IS FOR REAL !!!! As you probably know, the government now accesses all emails and messages posted whether it's on Yahoo or Google or somewhere else. It is well known Yahoo is leftist. BEWARE !!! - Yes because you are so bloody special and precious that the Obama Administration is going to take the time and expense, and not just ignore the looney ranting of a internet retard.

I knew there was a lot of dysfunctional retarded and insane morons in this world, but not until the internet did I realize just how many there were. Kind of depressing to think there are so many out there that spend their lives living in constant ignorance and stupidity. They have at their fingertip the greatest resource of human knowledge to this point in our history, yet seem to actually be getting dumber. WTF

1.Romney has to pretend to be a conservative.

II. Conservatives hate facts and reality.

C. Romney has to ignore facts and reality.

Anti_illuminati: DozeNutz: Anti_illuminati: Tingle007: and Ron Paul is telling the truth but nobody wants that.

Just because some one is spouting the truth, it doesn't mean all their solutions are right. But I'm sure you already knew that.

you gotta start with the truth, otherwise we are all just lying to ourselves, and this vicious cycle continues forever. At least he is honest with the American people that we are going bankrupt

Yes and some idiots think that just because he's telling the truth about our problems, that all of his solutions are 100% truth as well. But I guess I can't expect much from population where 31% believe the Bible is the literal word of God.

Well, how are you going to fix a problem that other candidates do not believe to be a problem? At least with Paul we are getting the truth, and at least that is a start. I am tired of being lied to and being fed bs.

Rich Cream: I want to post in this thread but the concept is so broad. Do I comment on RP or moon bases or lying politicians or FLA or health care or one of the many other topics? Ugh.

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Anti_illuminati: Rich Cream: I want to post in this thread but the concept is so broad. Do I comment on RP or moon bases or lying politicians or FLA or health care or one of the many other topics? Ugh.

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It's on every topic!

Do people honestly think Ron Paul will immediately end the fed and revert to the gold standard on day one causing a global epidemic? Have you even looked at his platform? The idea is to allow competing currencies, hold the fed accountable, and maybe, eventually the fed would be phased out if people chose to accept an alternative currency. But I guess having a private organization with no accountability control money and inflation is more sane

PanicMan: Wendy's Chili: I don't really think that's as wild as Romney (and others who call it a moon "colony") are making it out to be. I mean, we've had a flag up there for over 40 years--50 by the end of a hypothetical Gingrich second term--and there could be many benefits to it. China and India are already looking into resource mining on the moon, and it could serve as a launch pad for further space exploration.

In the 11 years of the Apollo program, we put 12 people on the moon. Newt wants to put 13,000.

The Apollo program cost the equivalent of $170 billion in 2005 dollars.

Newt will pay for it with tax cuts, Silly!

Rich Cream: Anti_illuminati: Rich Cream: I want to post in this thread but the concept is so broad. Do I comment on RP or moon bases or lying politicians or FLA or health care or one of the many other topics? Ugh.

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It's on every topic!

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