Who says nobody ever learned anything from George W Bush?

Frederick: To sum up:

Israel believes retaliation from Iran would be manageable so therefor Israel should attack Iran because of the Iranian threat against Israel.

Between these two countries it is clear where the more aggressive rhetoric is coming from.

General "Buck" Turgidson: Mr. President, we are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless *distinguishable*, postwar environments: one where you got twenty million people killed, and the other where you got a hundred and fifty million people killed.

President Merkin Muffley: You're talking about mass murder, General, not war!

General "Buck" Turgidson: Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

It's just some guy saying that. He doesn't represent Israel.

Israel just wants peace, and Iran has been belligerent and calling for the destruction of Israel for years.

Israel just wants to protect itself.

Po-TAY-to, Po-TAH-to, subby.

Alone?

Where'd they get those nukes, then?

Where's tats? I need to know if this is anti-semetic?

Bush Doctrine in motion!

Frederick: Between these two countries it is clear where the more aggressive rhetoric is coming from.

The US?

Israel popping off a nuke at Iran would be like the assassination of Duke Ferdinand, except the world war afterwords would only last about 10 minutes, and most of us would then be a part of the upper atmosphere.

When Fighting is sure to result in victory then you must fight!



/hot like a crit missile.

Of course, post anti-Israeli crap on a Friday when they can't even defend themselves! YOU MONSTERS! SUBBY HATES JEWS!!

They're getting awfully uppity.

AverageAmericanGuy: It's just some guy saying that. He doesn't represent Israel.

Israel just wants peace, and Iran has been belligerent and calling for the destruction of Israel for years.

Israel just wants to protect itself.

Stop trying to defuse anti-semetism with facts.

If they strike preemptively, I'll punch the first Jew I see.

If Israel thinks they are alone, they don't need our money and military hardware, then.

Alphakronik: If they strike preemptively, I'll punch the first Jew I see.

From Ashkenazay to Ashkenazi?

Jake Havechek: Israel popping off a nuke at Iran would be like the assassination of Duke Ferdinand, except the world war afterwords would only last about 10 minutes, and most of us would then be a part of the upper atmosphere.

It wouldn't affect vampires. That's what they said in Twilight or one of those other movies. There seem to be a lot of vampire movies. I think they're trying to tell us something.

Frederick: To sum up:

Israel believes retaliation from Iran would be manageable so therefor Israel should attack Iran because of the Iranian threat against Israel.

Between these two countries it is clear where the more aggressive rhetoric is coming from.

It's like watching two retarded monkeys circle each other with knives. Funny until you suddenly remember "shiat, these clowns have nukes...".

*sniff* They grow up so fast...

yeah, its not like Israel has a history of being attacked by her neighbors or anything huh subby.

/dipshiat

To sum up: some dude somewhere says something and everyone verbally assaults Israel even though what was said does not reflect Israeli policy. Apparently Israel is alone and they should do whatever they see fit, and the comment bots here are all hypocrits.

Alphakronik: If they strike preemptively, I'll punch the first Jew I see.

Not laughing - I recall hearing (the person beside me in the taxi, having better eyesight, actually saw) an elderly European-descended security guard screaming at a Sikh guy in Toronto during the afternoon of 9/11. This kind of idiocy will happen.

Out of curiosity, how much of this bellicose rhetoric is for domestic consumption? Is Bibi trying to keep a shaky coalition of nationalists and hawks together at the moment?

Well, my cells have a Y chromosome. Since this statement is true when I say it, it means it must be true when any other arbitrary human being with at least one shared quality with me also says it, otherwise one of us is being a hypocrite.

/the commentbots here may not be proof that "we are alone" really is true for Israel, but it sure does add a lot of empirical evidence to that hypothesis

Terrell Owens doesn't have any friends either. Maybe they can get together sometime.

Tatterdemalian: Well, my cells have a Y chromosome. Since this statement is true when I say it, it means it must be true when any other arbitrary human being with at least one shared quality with me also says it, otherwise one of us is being a hypocrite.

/the commentbots here may not be proof that "we are alone" really is true for Israel, but it sure does add a lot of empirical evidence to that hypothesis

Hard for me to figure out who, exactly, said anything, as the article is behind a login wall. Nice work, NYT

Forgot_my_password_again: yeah, its not like Israel has a history of being attacked by her neighbors or anything huh subby.

/dipshiat

This. And I don't see anywhere that Israel has vowed to wipe Iran off the map or shove it into an ocean.

No forever alone with a yamaha?

Forgot_my_password_again: yeah, its not like Israel has a history of being attacked by her neighbors or anything huh subby.

/dipshiat

You know who else has a history of being attacked by it's neighbors?

Sir Roderick Glossop: This. And I don't see anywhere that Israel has vowed to wipe Iran off the map or shove it into an ocean.

Are you serious? Israel threatens Iran DAILY, and they have the army and NUCLEAR WEAPONS to totally decimate them.

And I think you may have conveniently forgot that Isreal, in the last 35 years, has invaded and militarily occupied a sovereign neighbour (Lebanon, which they occupied for 20 years), invaded and bombed their own Occupied Territories (West Bank, Gaza Strip), blasted peace activists out of international waters, ignored the NPT (never allowing IAEA inspectors anywhere near their (illegal) nuclear sites, and generally acted like they can conveniently ignore international law and global public sentiment when it comes to "existential threats",

Iran, on the other hand, hasn't invaded any other countries for 250 years.

I'd say that Israel is without a doubt the biggest threat to world peace today.

lockers: Frederick: Between these two countries it is clear where the more aggressive rhetoric is coming from.

The US?

Naw, the US is more of the speak softly, carry a big stick type of diplomacy. It's like the recent trouble with Iran, the US didn't publish a press release saying that they'd bomb Iran back to the stone age if they blocked the strait of hormuz, they just floated a carrier group past Iran's coast.

/Israel seems to be perpetually preparing for a second Six Day War

Frederick: To sum up:

Israel believes retaliation from Iran for stopping their nuke program would be manageable so therefor Israel should attack Iran because of the Iranian threat of nuclear action against Israel is unmanagable.

Between these two countries it is clear where the more aggressive rhetoric is coming from.

FTFY.

Until Israel threatens to wipe Iran out, Iran still wins "more agressive rhetoric".

Philip Francis Queeg: Forgot_my_password_again: yeah, its not like Israel has a history of being attacked by her neighbors or anything huh subby.

/dipshiat

You know who else has a history of being attacked by it's neighbors?

Poland?

Israel has also violated 100s of UN resolutions, but violating UN resolutions only matters if you're George W Bush and you want to invade Iraq so bad your dick is hard.

liam76: Frederick: To sum up:

Israel believes retaliation from Iran for stopping their nuke program would be manageable so therefor Israel should attack Iran because of the Iranian threat of nuclear action against Israel is unmanagable.

Between these two countries it is clear where the more aggressive rhetoric is coming from.

FTFY.

Until Israel threatens to wipe Iran out, Iran still wins "more agressive rhetoric".

Not more agressive rhetoric, anything but that!!!!

liam76: Until Israel threatens to wipe Iran out, Iran still wins "more agressive rhetoric".

Right. Because when Iran says "If you attack us we'll fark you up", it's pure aggression.

haha

Good guys don't do pre-emptive strikes. Not the smart ones, anyway.

Uncle Tractor; Good guys don't do pre-emptive strikes. Not the smart ones, anyway.

It's worse than that. All this is predicated on the fact that Israel believes that the second Iran has a working nuclear bomb, they'll attack Israel, which has 80 or so nukes and wouldn't hesitate to level Iran within 5 minutes.

Iran, of course, realizes that's just absolute suicide. Doesn't matter to the hawks, though. They'll point to Ahmedinejad as if he's the guy who will push the button, even though he's not, and even though most Iranians think he's a wacko.

So, Isreal is populated with salarians?

Isreal, the new Nazi-American state.

Whew. I dunno man, there's been a lot of war talk lately, from all sides.
I fear that this will lead up to actual war, possibly before summer.

It's seriously very hard to believe this crap is still going on in 2012. Then again, there's nothing more profitable than fighting and war. Sometimes I have to question whether much of this isn't all a big, behind the scenes, scripted drama done to make those in power rich and more powerful. When's the last time this BS has negatively affected anyone important or wealthy? Defense contractors, petroleum producers, and politicians FTW.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon - and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US."

1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy."

1992: Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters."


Same. Old. Shiat. From. 20. Years. Ago.