DamnYankees: Romney made a better argument for Obamacare last night than Obama ever has.

That shouldn't be too surprising: The individual mandate began life as a Republican idea, first championed by none other than Newt Gingrich.

DamnYankees: Romney made a better argument for Obamacare last night than Obama ever has.

And we're done here

Diogenes: MFAWG: DamnYankees: Romney made a better argument for Obamacare last night than Obama ever has.

That shouldn't be too surprising: The individual mandate began life as a Republican idea, first championed by none other than Newt Gingrich.

It was the chief GOP criticism of "Hillarycare" back in the day.

That and the mainstreaming of 1988 Libertarian candidate for POTUS DRRONPAUL!!!! demonstrate just how far right the postmodern GOP actually is.

My favorite part was when Romney said something like. Obama does not care about the 8% of the people, Obama cares about 100% of the people.

That sounds pretty good to me.

DeltaPunch: What was up with Ron Paul's answer to that women who lost her job and health insurance? Am I crazy or did he say that yes, we need to get gov't out of healthcare to lower costs for everyone, including employers, but if you don't have a job that's just too bad....?

Did I hear that right?

That sounds about right for RONPAUL! He's an ideologue.

DeltaPunch: What was up with Ron Paul's answer to that women who lost her job and health insurance? Am I crazy or did he say that yes, we need to get gov't out of healthcare to lower costs for everyone, including employers, but if you don't have a job that's just too bad....?

Did I hear that right?

That's pretty much textbook Libertarian... It's those responses that leave people saying that he's "consistent". He really almost always chooses the "keep government out and let people sort it out on their own" angle. When he wavers from that, it's not because it would be politically expedient to not tell an unemployed woman that help is on the way, or because of much any other compassionate reason. I don't know what logic he uses when he wavers, but that's also because the examples are pretty few.

"Rick, I make enough mistakes in what I said not for you to add more mistakes to what I said," he began.

He continued, "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

Any hope Romney ever had of getting Teabaggers to swallow their pride (so to speak) and rally behind him disappeared when he told them that health care reform was nothing to get angry about. These are the people who live to be angry about health care reform.

BMulligan: Any hope Romney ever had of getting Teabaggers to swallow their pride (so to speak) and rally behind him disappeared when he told them that health care reform was nothing to get angry about. These are the people who live to be angry about health care reform.

Yeah, he keeps using the dismissive, condescending approach to so many things. "Corporations are people", "I think we can put this [tax return disclosure] to rest", "Banks are just overwhelmed", "Healthcare is nothing to get angry about". He has no sense of how to talk to people, only board rooms.... His "strong performance" last night was a board room fight combined with an executive job interview...

How does someone who's been trying this long, not pay any attention to what actually works and wins elections?

DeltaPunch: What was up with Ron Paul's answer to that women who lost her job and health insurance? Am I crazy or did he say that yes, we need to get gov't out of healthcare to lower costs for everyone, including employers, but if you don't have a job that's just too bad....?

Did I hear that right?

Yes. Ron Paul was the guy in the earlier debate that implied it was cool to let the uninsured die in the street. So his answer should not have been a surprise.

quizzical: DeltaPunch: What was up with Ron Paul's answer to that women who lost her job and health insurance? Am I crazy or did he say that yes, we need to get gov't out of healthcare to lower costs for everyone, including employers, but if you don't have a job that's just too bad....?

Did I hear that right?

Yes. Ron Paul was the guy in the earlier debate that implied it was cool to let the uninsured die in the street. So his answer should not have been a surprise.

To a very positive response, no less. That is what is troublesome. Him sticking to his guns, predictable, a crowd openly cheering for the destitute decay of a fellow human being, let alone citizen... that was disappointing.

quizzical: DeltaPunch: What was up with Ron Paul's answer to that women who lost her job and health insurance? Am I crazy or did he say that yes, we need to get gov't out of healthcare to lower costs for everyone, including employers, but if you don't have a job that's just too bad....?

Did I hear that right?

Yes. Ron Paul was the guy in the earlier debate that implied it was cool to let the uninsured die in the street. So his answer should not have been a surprise.

remember, in his world, we didn't have health care problems before medicare. Really

RobbieFal: quizzical: DeltaPunch: What was up with Ron Paul's answer to that women who lost her job and health insurance? Am I crazy or did he say that yes, we need to get gov't out of healthcare to lower costs for everyone, including employers, but if you don't have a job that's just too bad....?

Did I hear that right?

Yes. Ron Paul was the guy in the earlier debate that implied it was cool to let the uninsured die in the street. So his answer should not have been a surprise.

remember, in his world, we didn't have health care problems before medicare. Really

What do you have against the funeral workers and mortuary service providers? They're jobs too! If the free market decides those jobs need to be scaled back then people will die less often. Let the markets decide!