The store manager is committing fraud, and should lose not only her job, but her career over this.

As for the idiot who alleges that they were stupid enough to throw the ticket away... TOO FARKING BAD. You LOSE!

Incidentally, I don't believe in tort reform in the medical malpractice industry...

But this person deserves to countersue, and deserves to DOUBLE her lottery winnings, as far as I am concerned. Don't just sue the woman who is suing, sue the STORE.

Everyone sues everyone else over everything these days.

I'd take it. Cash it. And give it to my favorite charity. Then, probably go to church and thank the good Lord that my life didn't get any better or any worse and that he look down on those that need it.

You may hate me and my religion, but easy come, easy go. Curses can come in the form of supposed blessings. Don't covet your neighbors and be thankful for what you have. Money isn't happiness. Look around you and count all the things that are good.

The fact that this woman purchased a used car instead of a loaded Mercedes tells me a lot. She probably will use the money wisely. These other two goons ought to have their cases tossed with extreme prejudice.

If you find a winning ticket, don't tell anyone you found it. Just farking cash it in and shut up. If people know you found it, you know someone is going to try and take it. If she just said she bought it, no one would know and this would be a non-issue.

i hate frivolous lawsuits, but unfortunately if the lady took store property without permission she will probably lose. Stuff in a garbage can inside the store (or even outside but still in the stores container/dumpster area) has clearly and repeatedly been ruled as private property for a long time.

Now I'm no law talking guy, but wasn't legal precedent for ownership of the ticket established in Finders V. Keepers?

CliChe Guevara: i hate frivolous lawsuits, but unfortunately if the lady took store property without permission she will probably lose. Stuff in a garbage can inside the store (or even outside but still in the stores container/dumpster area) has clearly and repeatedly been ruled as private property for a long time.

Unless they prosecuted every bum who went dumpster diving in their bins (or more to the point, when the woman got tickets out of the dumpster the other times), I don't see why they should suddenly be able to enforce it when a winning ticket is involved.

are they able to prove that she found that particular ticket in that particular trash can? Seems relevant.

They're already making a tv series about this:

My Name is Earlene

I'll be here all week, don't forget to tip the waitstaff and be sure and try the veal.

RandomExcess: are they able to prove that she found that particular ticket in that particular trash can? Seems relevant.

Yes. Link (new window)

vestona22: You may hate me and my religion

How's that persecution complex treating you?

At the very least, the woman who found the ticket should get half the money. If she hadn't picked it up then no one would have claimed the prize.

Baryogenesis: At the very least, the woman who found the ticket should get half the money

No, she should get all of it, because it's blatantly obvious the other two just made up some bullshiat in the hope she'd settle with them for a quick payday rather than waste her money fighting spurious lawsuits.

The woman who found the ticket should get to keep it all. The accusers should have to pay all legal fees for being shiatbags.

I have spoken.

cbackous: vestona22: I'd take it. Cash it. And give it to my favorite charity. Then, probably go to church and thank the good Lord that my life didn't get any better or any worse and that he look down on those that need it.

You may hate me and my religion, but easy come, easy go. Curses can come in the form of supposed blessings. Don't covet your neighbors and be thankful for what you have. Money isn't happiness. Look around you and count all the things that are good.

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Hell, even South Park got the Bible right: "You see, these are just stories - stories that are meant to help people in the right direction. Love your neighbor. Be a good person. That's it!"

And, might I add, don't worry about how well your neighbor is doing in comparison to you. If nobody cared how their "neighbor" was "doing" compared to themselves, the world would be a much better place.

Earn what you have, and be proud of it. If someone has more, so what? We all finish equally.

Gunther: vestona22: You may hate me and my religion

How's that persecution complex treating you?

Oh, I'm not persecuted. Not by a long stretch. Besides this is Fark! No expectation of respect here.....

But there are a lot of petty, hateful people out there that blow things like faith out of proportion.

If you know what I mean. :)

Matthew Keene: The fact that this woman purchased a used car instead of a loaded Mercedes tells me a lot.

Her credit is so bad the dealer wouldn't let her buy a new car with cash?

Gunther: Baryogenesis: At the very least, the woman who found the ticket should get half the money

No, she should get all of it, because it's blatantly obvious the other two just made up some bullshiat in the hope she'd settle with them for a quick payday rather than waste her money fighting spurious lawsuits.

Well yeah, but if the case isn't decided purely in her favor she should still get a large chunk of that money.

the lottery commission began the process of confirming all winning tickets and in the course of the investigation, surveillance footage showed Jones grabbing a handful of discarded tickets from the trash bin.

The F!?
"Someone turned in a ticket. Quick, check all the trashcan cams in the country!"

vestona22: Oh, I'm not persecuted. Not by a long stretch. Besides this is Fark! No expectation of respect here.....

I asked because you were the first person in this thread to even mention religion, and you did so by saying "You may hate me and my religion"... It just struck me as a bizarre way to bring it up.

Baryogenesis: Well yeah, but if the case isn't decided purely in her favor she should still get a large chunk of that money.

Yeah I got what you meant, I'm just easily annoyed and nit-picky today for some reason.

puffy999: Incidentally, I don't believe in tort reform in the medical malpractice industry...

But this person deserves to countersue, and deserves to DOUBLE her lottery winnings, as far as I am concerned. Don't just sue the woman who is suing, sue the STORE.


Interesting take on our justice system. So if one can invest in a law suit, or countersuit as in your example, should they get taxed on their profits?

xl5150: Everyone sues everyone else over everything these days.

I posted this first with a better headline!!!! Can I get a lawsuit?!

If the lottery commission considers whoever claims a ticket to be the rightful owner WTF were they investigating when they found this surveillance footage?

Gunther: Baryogenesis: At the very least, the woman who found the ticket should get half the money

No, she should get all of it, because it's blatantly obvious the other two just made up some bullshiat in the hope she'd settle with them for a quick payday rather than waste her money fighting spurious lawsuits.

This.

If you create a lawsuit and are found to have done so in a blatant attempt to get a payday, you should pay. In otherwords if the third woman has zero proof that she is the one that trashed the ticket then she should pay the full amount of the lawsuit.

Gunther: vestona22: Oh, I'm not persecuted. Not by a long stretch. Besides this is Fark! No expectation of respect here.....

I asked because you were the first person in this thread to even mention religion, and you did so by saying "You may hate me and my religion"... It just struck me as a bizarre way to bring it up.


Fair enough. I've just been around Fark long enough that I know that even bringing up faith-based believes will get one hit with flying spaghetti and such. But I'm a strict, unequivocal supporter of free expression. So I take the spaghetti comments in the same vein of sarcastic humor as my comments were made.

I do believe, however, that we'd all be better off if we stopped worrying about the Joneses and just lived our lives in peace as we were advised to a couple thousand years ago.

Apply that to the story at hand and image the outcome. Then throw your spaghetti.

YouSirAreAMaroon: If the lottery commission considers whoever claims a ticket to be the rightful owner WTF were they investigating when they found this surveillance footage?

they can tell when and where the ticket is purchased. So if some skinny white dude comes in with the ticket and some big black dude bought it they won't to know what happened in the inbetween.

remscheld: Now I'm no law talking guy, but wasn't legal precedent for ownership of the ticket established in Finders V. Keepers?

Actually it was Finders V Weepers, as in "Finder's keepers, Loser's weepers"

/pet peeve

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/Gueezus, smoking the medical reefer didn't help me spell tonight.

GBB: remscheld: Now I'm no law talking guy, but wasn't legal precedent for ownership of the ticket established in Finders V. Keepers?

Actually it was Finders V Weepers, as in "Finder's keepers, Loser's weepers"

/pet peeve

So if Finders and Keepers divorced and I settled the case how much should I expect percentage wise?

pedobearapproved: xl5150: Everyone sues everyone else over everything these days.

I posted this first with a better headline!!!! Can I get a lawsuit?!

If ACTA is retroactive, probably.

Rrrrrrrrrrroll up the rim, anyone?

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Oh, and the kid that found the cup in the trash got the car. And tax free, too! (Suck it US!)

pedobearapproved: YouSirAreAMaroon: If the lottery commission considers whoever claims a ticket to be the rightful owner WTF were they investigating when they found this surveillance footage?

they can tell when and where the ticket is purchased. So if some skinny white dude comes in with the ticket and some big black dude bought it they won't to know what happened in the inbetween.

I can understand why they would, but doesn't that completely contradict their statement in TFA?

GBB: remscheld: Now I'm no law talking guy, but wasn't legal precedent for ownership of the ticket established in Finders V. Keepers?

Actually it was Finders V Weepers, as in "Finder's keepers, Loser's weepers" "Finders keepers, losers weepers."

/pet peeve

/apostropeeve.

YouSirAreAMaroon: pedobearapproved: YouSirAreAMaroon: If the lottery commission considers whoever claims a ticket to be the rightful owner WTF were they investigating when they found this surveillance footage?

they can tell when and where the ticket is purchased. So if some skinny white dude comes in with the ticket and some big black dude bought it they won't to know what happened in the inbetween.

I can understand why they would, but doesn't that completely contradict their statement in TFA?

Yeah, but I think it's to clear up for just such an issue. The state says whoever has it gets it, but the state did their part to ensure everything is on the up and up. If a lawsuit comes up they have no basis to sue the state. In fact the state can give the courts a better idea of who the money belongs to.

The woman should get all the money, and the suing plaintiffs should get a Falcon Punch to the crotch.

Baryogenesis: Matthew Keene: The fact that this woman purchased a used car instead of a loaded Mercedes tells me a lot.

Her credit is so bad the dealer wouldn't let her buy a new car with cash?

Funny story... I went to buy a new car... Planned on writing a check for it. Sales manager blew the deal by trying to force me to give him info to run a credit check. He genuinely thought he had to run one to let me buy the car even though I was paying for the whole thing. Wouldn't back down so I walked. They pestered me for over a month, calling and apologizing. I just said screw it and kept driving my old car. Probably a good thing it happenned.

puffy999: The store manager is committing fraud, and should lose not only her job, but her career over this.

As for the idiot who alleges that they were stupid enough to throw the ticket away... TOO FARKING BAD. You LOSE!

You're mean.

I would normally want the one finding it to get the money. But it seems like the person that found it was also scamming the system a little. No big deal, really, but it irks me.
She is still the only one with any legitimate claim to this ticket, though.

Candygram for Mongo: RandomExcess: are they able to prove that she found that particular ticket in that particular trash can? Seems relevant.

Yes. Link (new window)

She may be mistaken. They should have to prove it first before she is forced to mount a defense.

vestona22:
You may hate me and my religion, but easy come, easy go. Curses can come in the form of supposed blessings.

Notsureiftroll... but this principle totally applies to the lottery, and Farkers know it. Suddenly becoming rich is guaranteed to cause bad shiat to happen in your life...

Grifters call you constantly begging for money.
Your university's alumni association suddenly LOVE you (see above).
Friends get awkward.
Strippers burgle your car.
Those relatives you thought liked you are suddenly suing you for $1 million for "pain and humiliation" for when you forgot to bring the turkey at Thanksgiving.

abhorrent1: If you find a winning ticket, don't tell anyone you found it. Just farking cash it in and shut up. If people know you found it, you know someone is going to try and take it. If she just said she bought it, no one would know and this would be a non-issue.

This. The problem is her attention-whoring. She deserves to lose.

vestona22: I'd take it. Cash it. And give it to my favorite charity. Then, probably go to church and thank the good Lord that my life didn't get any better or any worse and that he look down on those that need it.

You may hate me and my religion, but easy come, easy go. Curses can come in the form of supposed blessings. Don't covet your neighbors and be thankful for what you have. Money isn't happiness. Look around you and count all the things that are good.

Lershac: Baryogenesis: Matthew Keene: The fact that this woman purchased a used car instead of a loaded Mercedes tells me a lot.

Her credit is so bad the dealer wouldn't let her buy a new car with cash?

Funny story... I went to buy a new car... Planned on writing a check for it. Sales manager blew the deal by trying to force me to give him info to run a credit check. He genuinely thought he had to run one to let me buy the car even though I was paying for the whole thing. Wouldn't back down so I walked. They pestered me for over a month, calling and apologizing. I just said screw it and kept driving my old car. Probably a good thing it happenned.

^30 seconds of my life I won't get back.

I hope the plaintiffs have to pay the legal fees when they lose.

remscheld: Now I'm no law talking guy, but wasn't legal precedent for ownership of the ticket established in Finders V. Keepers?

I love the spirit of your post, but the "finder" and "keeper" are the same person. I think it would be more correct to state Keeper V. Weeper.