LA: The armpit of Southern California

The Onion is prophetic: Norv Turner: LA: The armpit of Southern California

I thought that was Barstow?

I imagine the people in barstow are a bit better which puts them slightly behind LA

What people in LA may look like:

Osomatic: Not exactly sure how an unmanned drone differs from a remote-controlled plane or helicopter

I was wondering about that as well.

AdolfOliverPanties: Other realtors are more creative.

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For some reason I imagine those being mainly in West Hollywood?

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NewportBarGuy: Osomatic: Nope. Bakersfield.

I remember a friend living there sending me a pic of Bakersfield and a pic of Mars. Couldn't tell them apart.

Mars is the one without all the Mexicans....

well, he does have a pilots helmet

Kite photography. Book it.

The Onion is prophetic: Norv Turner: LA: The armpit of Southern California

I thought that was Barstow?


Palmdale's more like it.

The Onion is prophetic: Norv Turner: LA: The armpit of Southern California

I thought that was Barstow?

Actually, it is Fresno. Barstow has that really nice In n' Out (and the man who met Andy Griffith).

But, from the pic, ok for the cops. Because they know what they're doing. (oh god 360 eye roll)

Exactly how close are the LAPD helicopters flying to homes, that a small remote controlled object (probably can't go higher than 50 feet) is going to be an issue?
Also who wouldn't see our hear the helicopter coming and get the drone out of the way?
(in Canada we learn to yell "car"when playing road hockey, realtors can learn to yell "gyro")

TFA refers to "intense and growing debate about the safety of allowing drones to operate in airspace used by passenger aircraft," but no passenger aircraft I know shares the low-altitude drone airspace.

And fellas- if you're gonna talk trash, get it straight. LA is the asshole of California, Fresno/Bakersfield(/SF if you want to be provocative) is the armpit.

Osomatic: Not exactly sure how an unmanned drone differs from a remote-controlled plane or helicopter, but they probably shouldn't be flying them around anywhere they feel like. You'd hate to see one of these things foul a real helicopter's blades or something. Admittedly, it'd probably cut down on helicopter traffic in LA, which would be frickin' great, but nobody should have to die for that to happen.

No difference. FAA rules are, you can fly RCs and drones almost anywhere, with big howevers. One of which, which is new, when the FAA closes the airspace, cause of a POTUS visit etc, you are closed down too. There are additional restrictions based on the weight of the aircraft, and again if it is a jet, however, these are often ignored. "You want to weigh my RC officer?"

You also CANNOT get anywhere near a "real" aircraft, including helo's which are allowed much lower, usually 500 feet, and so can often be in "your" piece of air. Violate these rules and they not only pull you out of the air, and can seize your equipment, but they can fine you out the yahoo.

Additionally, according to the FAA, you CANNOT fly the drone out of sight of the pilot, even though the technology to fly by video down link exists, and is actually easier to fly with. Add to this flying by GPS waypoint, easiest yet, and you have a case of the technology being way head of the law. So, look for RC flying rules to change soon, probably allowing commercial drones to fly by video and GPS waypoint, but limiting, even further, hobby drones. The increased limits will be justified by 9/11 reasoning, even though, who needs to use an expensive drone with a very limited payload weight when you can just strap almost anything on a willing 12 year old...

Not that I've ever flown drones out of sight with GPS waypoints, not never. or used a willing 12 year old, for anything.

Granted I don't know anything about the state of model aircraft, but 500 feet seems pretty high to me?

Well they say this place is evil; that ain't why I stay. Cuz I found something that'll never be nothing, and I found it in LA.

I'd bet you could transport a lot of drugs over the border, under the radar literally and figuratively, by building a big enough UAV and flying it by GPS.

The Los Angeles Police Department is warning real estate agents not to use images of properties taken from unmanned aircraft, saying the flying drones pose a potential safety hazard and could violate federal aviation policy

Another example of NOT addressing the problem. How does any rule about NOT using the images taken from an umanned aircraft stop the actual flight of said aircraft? It doesn't.

In addition, that rule doesn't seem to address using "other images" that have been created using parts of images that have been taken by unmanned aircraft.

So, LAPD isn't aware that under 400 feet altitude is public airspace.

Fire these idiots right now.

khyberkitsune: So, LAPD isn't aware that under 400 feet altitude is public airspace.

Fire these idiots right now.

Came here to say that. LAPD seems to be simply employing harsh words and scare tactics, hoping nobody knows how to actually look up and read Federal Aviation Regulations.

stiletto_the_wise: khyberkitsune: So, LAPD isn't aware that under 400 feet altitude is public airspace.

Fire these idiots right now.

Came here to say that. LAPD seems to be simply employing harsh words and scare tactics, hoping nobody knows how to actually look up and read Federal Aviation Regulations.

To be fair, this is how they treat everyone who gets in their way.

taurusowner: I'd bet you could transport a lot of drugs over the border, under the radar literally and figuratively, by building a big enough UAV and flying it by GPS.

Nope, too small a payload.

I was waiting for smugglers to use trebuchet, since you can load them up with 50 lbs bags and hit the same spot every time, then found out they are. So now I've decided that they must already be using my next idea, so I won't bother repeating it, since I'll just look silly and/or tip off the man and/or piss off zeta. The last of course is the least desirable.

Smallberries: You also CANNOT get anywhere near a "real" aircraft, including helo's which are allowed much lower, usually 500 feet

WRONG. Piloted vehicles OF ANY SORT THAT HAS THE HUMAN CONTROLLER ONBOARD must maintain 1000' vertical clearance of ANY location with people below, exception being emergency and planned landings, and emergency pursuit.

/has his license, finally.

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Nope, too small a payload.
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Smallberries: Nope, too small a payload.

Oh, please. A micro-rocket with enough propellant could haul a few kilos right across the border so fast your head would spin. Border guards would be helpless.

Harry_Seldon: The Onion is prophetic: Norv Turner: LA: The armpit of Southern California

I thought that was Barstow?

Actually, it is Fresno. Barstow has that really nice In n' Out (and the man who met Andy Griffith).

The dope down there must be awesome 'cause all y'all stoners forgot about City of Industry.

khyberkitsune: Smallberries: You also CANNOT get anywhere near a "real" aircraft, including helo's which are allowed much lower, usually 500 feet

WRONG. Piloted vehicles OF ANY SORT THAT HAS THE HUMAN CONTROLLER ONBOARD must maintain 1000' vertical clearance of ANY location with people below, exception being emergency and planned landings, and emergency pursuit.

/has his license, finally.

Government helo's, cops included, regularly spend there whole flight under 1k and over 500 feet, or less. Since at that height they don't have to worry about some idiot with a GA license.

The 1k limit is held about as often as cops drive the speed limit to the donut shop.

As for RC's if they are of any reasonable size, say a four feet or more in wing span, flying over 1,000 feet is easy and regularly done, just not recommended anywhere near a cop helo (having had a fellow pilot thrown in the back of a CHP car for buzzing a CHP chopper) (yes he was an idiot of the near terminal type)

khyberkitsune: Smallberries: Nope, too small a payload.

Oh, please. A micro-rocket with enough propellant could haul a few kilos right across the border so fast your head would spin. Border guards would be helpless.

True, but a trebuchet is more accurate, cheaper, and the "brains" part of it stays on the ground, so unless they catch you on the Mexican side, you can do it again tomorrow. However, if the payload is worth enough I'd be worth the bigger investment to make sure it went where you wanted it to, say a GPS guided rocket with a low altitude opening parachute. Too expensive for grass, but maybe for cocaine? I'm sure someone has a spreadsheet on this, how much a delivery method is worth versus how much it can carry versus odds of getting caught. After all, they seem happy to run GA aircraft over the boarder, drop the payload and if being followed by a black hawk bail out and try and get away that way. On the other side they are building semi-subs and fully functional subs, carrying TONS, and trying to sneak past the coasties. Which, of course, is why prohibition never works.

basemetal: The Onion is prophetic: Norv Turner: LA: The armpit of Southern California

I thought that was Barstow?

I thought it was Fresno?

Fail. Fresno is not in Southern California. It's in Central California.
Besides, everyone knows Merced/Atwater is the armpit of the entire state of California.

/Castle AFB 89-93
//originally from LA

Happy Hours: Ultralights, using cranes to lift drug-lade vehicles over the fence, ramp cars that allow other cars to drive over the fence, surgically implanted puppies.

If they want to murder each other in the streets (and take a few ATF agents with them), I can deal with that. But you start cutting into puppies, you've crossed the line from villian to monster. What kind of sick bastard does that? There are plenty of people will to swallow your coke for minor cash. (Cool side note: Watched a special about a drug mule that had a long layover, had to shiat out the coke ballons, and then reswallow them. Twice.)

Why don't we just start going after the drug barons themselves instead of their peons. You got some guy who was either starving and just trying to feed his family or was even forced into it so his loved ones wouldn't be killed sitting in jail, while the Pablo Escobar types sit at some multimillion dollar villa living it up. We like bombing brown people. Hell, you could say we've raised it to an art form. Why not drop a couple of JDAMs on these assholes?