IAmRight: Looks like a horsesh*t ejection to me to attempt to help Mizzou try to win.

Like how the article says he was taunting instead of getting back on defense - actually, he was damn near at half-court by the time the ball was to be inbounded.

To be fair, it was a technical that happened to be his 2nd, not an ejection.

so it's a horsesh*t technical, not a horsesh*t ejection.

Bam!

Dunk-off!!

Weak. Like IAmRight said, he was halfway down the court before the ref T'd him up. It's not like he stood there looming over the guy and telling him in explicit detail what he was going to do to his momma after the game. To me this is equivalent to when they took away that touchdown from the LSU punter for barely extending his arms as he ran into the endzone. College is going too far in trying to regulate the players.

Freak: Weak. Like IAmRight said, he was halfway down the court before the ref T'd him up. It's not like he stood there looming over the guy and telling him in explicit detail what he was going to do to his momma after the game. To me this is equivalent to when they took away that touchdown from the LSU punter for barely extending his arms as he ran into the endzone. College is going too far in trying to regulate the players.

I agree in isolation it looked like a pretty innocuous post dunk reaction. I'm thinking since his first technical was for basically the same thing, he was probably on a short rope, and the refs were keeping an extra hard eye on him (although the first one could well have been as bullshiat as the second one).

Weak taunting calls - both of them (the first dunk is linked in the article too)

I would love to know what - best in the world - and - best in the victorian era - have to say about this.

Actually I would love to hear what Shawn Kemp would say.

Is this a point of emphasis for college refs this year?

oh dear a grown man might hurt another grown man's feelings for 0.1 seconds

fark off with that shiat

Both technicals were BS.................... looks to me like the refs were trying to help Mizzou win to protect their #2 ranking.

Full disclosure..............I am an Oklahoma State alum so I might be slightly biased.

lol Subby is about as much of a sissy as those refs (and all basketball refs for that matter).


It's just a game. If your feelings actually get hurt over someone's well deserved taunt or emotion display during said game, then good.



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Mike_LowELL: RAWISRADFORD: Actually I would love to hear what Shawn Kemp would say.



"Kemp's got it, right up into the alley. Power slam! Tomahawk jam! Yeah, baby! Into Lister's face!"

Yep

That's the one

He was a bad man

Technical foul for being better...and black. Taunting, excessive celebration, all have one thing in common. They are done more by black players than white players, and whitey can't handle it. Wah.

bartink: Technical foul for being better...and black. Taunting, excessive celebration, all have one thing in common. They are done more by black players than white players, and whitey can't handle it. Wah.

Did Spike Lee's Favorite Farker get a new handle?

I came in here fully prepared to troll with racism (black people) and shiatting on basketball (it sucks), but all he did was give the guy a stare-down after he pwned him on a dunk? WTF? I mean really, I had some good troll-bait! WTF?!

/bpeople are fine by me.
//bball does suck.

Hell, if I had gotten dunked on like that, I'd be expecting the stare down.

grob: Both technicals were BS.................... looks to me like the refs were trying to help Mizzou win to protect their #2 ranking.

Full disclosure..............I am an Oklahoma State alum so I might be slightly biased.

Seriously. You dunk on someone like that (2nd dunk) you can stare down all you want.

/also OK State fan

SnakeLee: That is a bullshiat technical

Indeed.

Why are players so angry after dunking? If I could do that, I'd be high-fiving players, fans and refs all the way back down the court.

Can't hold my tongue any more. Missouri fans, you have GOT to stop biatching so damn much. You have to know your team has been extremely overrated due to a laughably easy no conference schedule. You biatch about being stared at. You biatch about refereeing so much you know their full names at this point--even for games you aren't even playing in!

Lastly, if these "NMT" rumors are true, KU is going to end your program forever. Seriously, the SEC won't want anything to do with you, and they don't even give a shiat about basketball.

rcf1105: The rule should be that if you dunk on somebody that bad, you have to stare them down.

Feel the shame. FEEL IT.

It is pretty much our nature. If you win at anything from arguments to sports to monopoly you want the other person(s) to know youre better. It's a primal show of dominance and strategic conservation of energy to let them know if they fark with you they'll get the same thing.

ChrisDe: Why are players so angry after dunking? If I could do that, I'd be high-fiving players, fans and refs all the way back down the court to the bench or locker room.

Refs would still be butthurt. No emotion allowed

IAmRight: By the way, as a guy who is tall enough to dunk but can't because I don't have hops...oh man, if I were ever to be able to dunk, much less dunk over someone, you'd best believe I'd talk a hell of a lot of sh*t.

So then....you're not tall enough to dunk.

ChrisDe: Why are players so angry after dunking?

Don't know if serious, but it's more of a raw emotional release than anger. You see some pitchers make the same face after a key strikeout.

What I don't get is the desire to do it; save your energy and just make the effin' layup. I think it's fun but that's because I need a lowered rim to do it; if I could do it routinely in practice I wouldn't care to do it at all. I'm old-fashioned, I guess, but a single showy play that's worth a whopping 2 points in a game where scores usually exceed 50 is silly. I'm a results-minded guy. The guys that get in my head are the ones I can't stop (which, to be honest, is basically anyone who can play). Even if I was 7' tall, the kind of move that would make my pecker shrink wouldn't be a dunk so much as something like Kareem's sky hook. "We both know what I'm going to do, and you're not going to be able to defend it anyway. And I'm gonna do it again and again and again." You dunked on me? Feh. I screwed up; I'll do better on the next play.

/ Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes

dragonchild: What I don't get is the desire to do it; save your energy and just make the effin' layup

I think saving energy that way matters a lot more for adult league players than super athletic college guys.

IAmRight: Seems like you didn't watch the play. You don't tip in an alley-oop

Guh, DNWTFP and forgot about alley-oop. Darn you, you exposed me! Now I feel naked. Wait. . .

gtfan92: Sometimes your team is playing like absolute crap and needs a play to get them and the fans into it. An emphatic dunk is often something that sparks a team and a crowd. You never see, "And here's the layup that sparked the comeback."

I disagree. There's something to be said for momentum, sure, but I honestly don't see dunks doing it; that's the human tendency to preferentially distort one's memories. I've seen dunks with the dunker's team down by a lot on a home court; IIRC they didn't get the crowd back into it. Oh I've seen plenty of highlight reels of crowds going nuts over a dunk, but what they don't show (based on games I've watched start to finish, which I have to admit wasn't this one) are that those dunks typically happen when a momentum change is already well under way and the crowd's been going nuts over every basket for a while, or the team was never out of it to begin with. I typically see comebacks started by genuine changes in momentum, like consecutive three-pointers sandwiching a defensive rebound (which turns a 10-point deficit into a 4-point deficit in less than a minute), or a steal that leads to a fast break. . . layup. A dunk is usually done off a defensive breakdown, which sometimes just happens. If the points don't get the team back into it, nothing else really happens. Sure, dunks were hella intimidating in my HS' lily-white league, but a college defender getting rattled by a dunk probably shouldn't be playing.

gtfan92: Disagrees (new window)

Dude, that was Wilt. Not even in my dreams do I imagine I'm Wilt; for starters I don't have the stamina.

Freak: Weak. Like IAmRight said, he was halfway down the court before the ref T'd him up. It's not like he stood there looming over the guy and telling him in explicit detail what he was going to do to his momma after the game. To me this is equivalent to when they took away that touchdown from the LSU punter for barely extending his arms as he ran into the endzone. College is going too far in trying to regulate the players.

Nah, watch it again. He was at the three point line when the T happens. Not that everything you said isn't true, just sayin. Pause it at the exact moment the ref throws the T. Three point line. Not "halfway down the court."

/whatever

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Can't hold my tongue any more. Missouri fans, you have GOT to stop biatching so damn much.

Lastly, if these "NMT" rumors are true, KU is going to end your program forever. Seriously, the SEC won't want anything to do with you, and they don't even give a shiat about basketball.

Hey, as a fellow KU fan, what is this rumor you speak of? I cannot find a reference...

Dude, your reading comprehension needs work. It's OK to disagree with me, but at least disagree with what I'm saying.

gtfan92: You say a fastbreak layup can start a momentum change, but discount a dunk

No, I said a fast break off a steal starts a momentum change. If the result is a dunk you might see the crowd make some noise, but it's the steal that wakes them up. Taking away the other team's scoring opportunity and turning it into an easy basket is a four-point swing in a very short amount of time. Basically, basketball is a game that just isn't decided on a single play.

gtfan92: you have witnessed dunks that did not the get crowd excited because the team was too far down... (which at that point, nothing is going to get that crowd excited -_-)

Getting back into the game is what gets the crowd excited. Turning a 14-point deficit into a 12-point deficit with a dunk is meh. Turn a 12-point deficit into a 3-point deficit with something like defensive rebound, 3-pointer, steal, 3-pointer, defensive rebound, 3-point play and you'll hear some noise. Again, basketball is not a single-play game.

gtfan92: Another thing: a lot of college guys are NOT used to being dunked on by someone they don't like. Sure, they might have been dunked on by a friend messing around, but they were usually good enough in high school to not be dunked on. They aren't gonna like it.

I didn't say they liked it and I don't care anyway. If you're rattled by a showy play you're probably not man enough to play on a competitive court. That's not the power of da dunk; that's the defender being a boy trapped in a man's body.