I'll be hitting the links instead of watching that abortion of a game.

I'll watch it. Nothing better to do and this scotch isn't gonna drink itself ya know?

..and besides, all my fubol thread homies will be there...last dance kinda thing. Why does Norv Turner hate America?

Ok, I'll do it then

Similarity number 6, Giants win again, hardy-har-har

There, now this dumb thread can end

A month before he was assasinated, Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland.

A month brfore he was assasinated, Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe.

Wow. Who would have thought there would be any similarities between games played by the same 2 teams a whopping 4 years apart. Someone hose off the Believe it or Not guy.

Yeah, but in 2007 the Giants had less camera guys covering their final walkthrough

/i keed

I know Patriots fans are probably eager to get some revenge on the Giants, but part of them has to be really nervous about the possibility of losing to them again, and what that would look like on Brady and Belicheck's record. 4-1 in Super Bowls vs. 3-2. Getting to 5 is amazing, but that 3-2 looks a hell of a lot worse than 4-1.

Another thing to think about, right now Brady is 2-2 against the Manning brothers in the playoffs. A loss would drop him to 2-3, with those 3 losses coming in an AFC championship and possibly two Super Bowls. Conversely, a win would make him 1-1 in AFC championships, and 1-1 in the Super Bowl against the Manning's, which would look a lot better.

What I'm trying to say is this Super Bowl is really important for the perception of Brady's career as a whole, as well as his career against his most notable rivals, the Manning family (I guess you could throw in the Jets too, but I don't know the numbers). Unless you're one of those rational people who don't grade a Quarterback's career solely on these types of statistics in such a team-oriented game.

This stuff doesn't really merit nitpicking, but calling Farve's overtime interception and Williams' overtime fumble "unforced turnovers" strikes me as highly inaccurate. To me an unforced turnover comes from something like a botched snap or a fumble without contact.

In 2008:
The Giants' quarterback was Eli Manning.
The Patriots' quarterback was Tom Brady.

In 2012:
The Giants' quarterback was Eli Manning.
The Patriots' quarterback was Tom Brady.

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR

bighasbeen: Lou Cypher: To me an unforced turnover comes from something like a botched snap or a fumble without contact.

Or letting a punt hit you in the leg.

FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

bighasbeen: Lou Cypher: To me an unforced turnover comes from something like a botched snap or a fumble without contact.

Or letting a punt hit you in the leg.

I agree that one was unforced, but the one in overtime which he refers to was knocked loose during the return.

Passive Aggressive Larry: what that would look like on Brady and Belicheck's record. 4-1 in Super Bowls vs. 3-2. Getting to 5 is amazing, but that 3-2 looks a hell of a lot worse than 4-1.

I'd argue having a winning record in the Super Bowl is quite impressive.

The_Pink_Pimp: A month before he was assasinated, Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland.

A month brfore he was assasinated, Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe.

Weird. But what about the Carter-Coolidge Coincedences?

The Smails Kid: In 2008:
The Giants' quarterback was Eli Manning.
The Patriots' quarterback was Tom Brady.

In 2012:
The Giants' quarterback was Eli Manning.
The Patriots' quarterback was Tom Brady.

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR

In 2008:
The Giants' quarterback was Tom Coughlin.
The Patriots' quarterback was Bill Belichick.

In 2012:
The Giants' quarterback was Tom Coughlin.
The Patriots' quarterback was Bill Belichick.

/The Mayans were on to something!

Pro tip: If you're using Peter King to point out every INTERESTING thing about a matchup, you're probably a shiatty writer.

TheNyquilKid: In 2008:
The Giants' quarterback was Tom Coughlin.
The Patriots' quarterback was Bill Belichick.

In 2012:
The Giants' quarterback was Tom Coughlin.
The Patriots' quarterback was Bill Belichick.

Obviously you're not a golfer.

The_Pink_Pimp: A month before he was assassinated, Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland.

A month before he was assassinated, Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe.

I didn't know Kennedy was into necrophilia. That explains why the dead voted for him in Chicago.

Passive Aggressive Larry: I know Patriots fans are probably eager to get some revenge on the Giants, but part of them has to be really nervous about the possibility of losing to them again

Nervous? Try expected. This Patriots team is lucky it won any playoff games at all.

Passive Aggressive Larry: Another thing to think about, right now Brady is 2-2 against the Manning brothers in the playoffs.

Now, this is retarded. If you have to be compared to a combined set of brothers, then you've already won.

Yankees Team Gynecologist:

Passive Aggressive Larry: Another thing to think about, right now Brady is 2-2 against the Manning brothers in the playoffs.

Now, this is retarded. If you have to be compared to a combined set of brothers, then you've already won.

So there is no rivalry between that family and Brady? None at all? Talking about Brady vs Manning, be it Peyton or Eli, is a subject that will never come up? I'm just pointing out some numbers about a subject that football fans like to talk about and might find interesting. So you don't have to be a dick about it.

i was hoping for brother vs brother with a 49ers/Ravens superbowl.

/damn

Look! The human brain tries to make logical connections where none exist! It defines patterns from randomness! Someone submit this shiat to Nobel!

natural316: Similarity number 6, Giants win again, hardy-har-har

No, Saint Brady must be appeased, same as Saint Elway was.

Passive Aggressive Larry: So there is no rivalry between that family and Brady? None at all? Talking about Brady vs Manning, be it Peyton or Eli, is a subject that will never come up? I'm just pointing out some numbers about a subject that football fans like to talk about and might find interesting. So you don't have to be a dick about it.

Sorry, didn't mean to, I meant "retarded" more colloquially/benignly, if that's believable. Still though, while there is Brady vs. Manning talk, I don't think too many people put Eli + Peyton on one side of the equation unless they're trying to prop up Brady. If anything, a Giants win would reignite the Eli vs. Peyton discussion, and maybe talk of Eli alone catching up to Brady.

Honest question: do people in new York honestly respect Eli "my daddy told me I could play" manning?

The Flexecutioner: i was hoping for brother vs brother with a 49ers/Ravens superbowl.

/damn

At this point I'm just hoping the commercials are better than last years.

SoCalSurfer: Honest question: do people in new York honestly respect Eli "my daddy told me I could play" manning?

Honest question: do people in San Diego honestly still give a shiat about a draft that took place over seven years ago?

Since at least one of you appantly does, let's recap:

Archie Manning felt that Eli had a better chance to win in New York, that he couldn't win a Super Bowl in San Diego. The Chargers stubbornly drafted him anyway and then got what most at the time considered a king's ransom to orchestrate the trade.

The Chargers got rid of Drew Brees, now one of the best quarterbacks in the game. Their prized possession, Philip Rivers, is a whining little crybaby who, though talented, cannot get his act together. They got a kicker who chokes away important late season kicks. And Meriman, who was never the same once he stopped using the roids.

The team has always been said to have talent and plays in the weakest division in football and they cannot sniff the playoffs. Yet, everyone involved gets hired back for another year!!!

Meanwhile, Manning has yet to have a sub .500 season in New York, has made the playoffs every year since he became a starter save for two (one of them after winning 11 games) and has two Super Bowl appearances and at least one win.

So I ask you, bitter San Diego Charger fan: What on earth has history shown us that disproves Archie Manning's concerns about San Diego being a shiatty organization that would not compete?

Instead of holding a grudge against Eli Manning, I suggest you start holding your own team and organization accountable for their many failures.

SoCalSurfer: Honest question: do people in new York honestly respect Eli "my daddy told me I could play" manning?

This New Yorker loves him. He's a gifted athlete, yes, but he is not the same as some of the other people around him. He's not the perfect pretty boy QB - Romo, Rodgers or Brees. He doesn't mind taking huge hits. He escapes tackles. He spreads balls around and doesn't just look for huge bombs. He makes mistakes but he doesn't let mistakes rattle him. He's extremely humble about his success, and passes the victories off to his team mates. He makes things happen where lesser QBs wouldn't - that Hail Mary at the end of the Green Bay game being a perfect example.

What I like best about him is how unfazed he gets about everything. He takes whatever he's given and makes the best of it. And best of all: he does it quietly. Even the ads he does he is not the star (see his NY area Toyota ads).

I think if he could be Eli Johnson instead of Eli Manning, he would be thought of as a first rate QB anywhere. His name carries a whole lot more bagage for him then help IMHO.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: ..and besides, all my fubol thread homies will be there...last dance kinda thing. Why does Norv Turner hate America?

Norv Turner only believes in this:

NYCNative: Archie Manning felt that Eli had a better chance to win in New York, that he couldn't win a Super Bowl in San Diego.

I don't give a fark about the Chargers, and my opinion of Eli is steadily growing, but do you honestly not see the problem with this?

Plenty of top draftees get picked by shiatty teams with questionable management without pitching a fit.

I LOVE YOU BILLY CUNDIFF!!!! GOOOOOOOOOO PATRIOTS!!!

Quasar: I like how, by the second item on his list, the author just started winging it.

2. Patriots Streaking

The Patriots rode an 18 game winning streak into Super Bowl XLII, an undefeated record for the entire year. This year's club couldn't pull that off, but once again is sporting an impressive streak. Since the setback to the Giants in Week 9, the Patriots have reeled off 10 straight victories.

This. Pats were 18-0 yes. But they'd long since played their best football. This years team has been getting each week by contrast. And then, yeah, he was winging it...

Waxing_Chewbacca: Quasar: I like how, by the second item on his list, the author just started winging it.

2. Patriots Streaking

The Patriots rode an 18 game winning streak into Super Bowl XLII, an undefeated record for the entire year. This year's club couldn't pull that off, but once again is sporting an impressive streak. Since the setback to the Giants in Week 9, the Patriots have reeled off 10 straight victories.

This. Pats were 18-0 yes. But they'd long since played their best football. This years team has been getting each week by contrast. And then, yeah, he was winging it...

Getting better

Hate phone typing

6) The Giants have a OL coach named Lincoln, and the Patriots have an OL coach named Kennedy

spooky, i know.

Hm. Giants have 7 championships, Patriots only have 3, although they are all recent. I guess I'll have to cheer for the Patriots... Although I don't plan to watch.

Quasar: I like how, by the second item on his list, the author just started winging it.

2. Patriots Streaking

The Patriots rode an 18 game winning streak into Super Bowl XLII, an undefeated record for the entire year. This year's club couldn't pull that off, but once again is sporting an impressive streak. Since the setback to the Giants in Week 9, the Patriots have reeled off 10 straight victories.


Here's one difference.

The patriots 10 game win streak was over a series of 2nd and 3rd string QBs and/or very bad teams...and they beat the Broncos and Ravens (two not-so-potent offenses) in the playoffs.

/So if the Giants decide to play their back up (or Tim Tebow) I think the patriots are a lock....otherwise, this game is a toss up.

They are also the first franchises to make a SB in four straight decades.

Yankees Team Gynecologist: NYCNative: Archie Manning felt that Eli had a better chance to win in New York, that he couldn't win a Super Bowl in San Diego.

I don't give a fark about the Chargers, and my opinion of Eli is steadily growing, but do you honestly not see the problem with this?

Plenty of top draftees get picked by shiatty teams with questionable management without pitching a fit.

This. Hell, Stafford was drafted to the 0-16 Lions and didn't pitch a fit. Eli and Archie are whiny biatches. "Oh, boo hoo, I am going to get paid millions to play a sport even though it is a team that is run poorly." If he hated it that badly, just get an office job like the rest of us.

What if Andrew Luck refuses to go to the Colts, and instead wants a trade to the Ravens? It is a terrible precedence to set.

Rhypskallion: Hm. Giants have 7 championships, Patriots only have 3, although they are all recent. I guess I'll have to cheer for the Patriots... Although I don't plan to watch.

huh? giants have 7? how do you figure that? giants have 3 and the pats have 3

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Freakin Rican: Rhypskallion: Hm. Giants have 7 championships, Patriots only have 3, although they are all recent. I guess I'll have to cheer for the Patriots... Although I don't plan to watch.

huh? giants have 7? how do you figure that? giants have 3 and the pats have 3

Link (new window)

You are only counting super bowls. I'm counting pre-super bowl championships in addition to super bowls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Giants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_champions

Rhypskallion: Freakin Rican: Rhypskallion: Hm. Giants have 7 championships, Patriots only have 3, although they are all recent. I guess I'll have to cheer for the Patriots... Although I don't plan to watch.

huh? giants have 7? how do you figure that? giants have 3 and the pats have 3

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You are only counting super bowls. I'm counting pre-super bowl championships in addition to super bowls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Giants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_champions

gotcha.

The Smails Kid: In 2008:
The Giants' quarterback was Eli Manning.
The Patriots' quarterback was Tom Brady.

In 2012:
The Giants' quarterback was Eli Manning.
The Patriots' quarterback was Tom Brady.

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR

This is the kind of fact that always smacks us Chicago fans in the face. I can't even imagine having the same QB for 4 years in a row.