So he took the offer that pays more and offers more flexibility given its duration...

He needs the money, he spends it all on weed

Wherever he goes after that contract, let him say in the NL.

supichoo: This contract closes out his arbitration years. So enjoy watching him why you can Giants fans because he is a goner after 2013.

This.

*sobs*

Apparently subby thinks that every rookie should just sign a 10 year, 4million contract. Cuz, hey, otherwise they're only gonna get paid 500K each of the next 3 years.

dholway: So, to gain 500K, he left $60 million guaranteed on the table. (He could blow out his shoulder in spring training and be forced to survive on a mere $40 million.)

Yes, like every arb-eligible (and pre-arb) player. It's a risk, but if he DOESN'T suffer a huge injury, this will almost certainly result in him getting paid more.

If he doesn't blow out his arm/shoulder and is still breathing in January of 2014, he'll probably be able to sign a 5/6/7 year $125m+ contract.

lacrossestar83: HEY GUYS MARIJUANA

My sentiments exactly... for some reason, most marijuana humor out there simply boils down to "HAR HAR I'M REFERENCING POT HAR HAR"

Cheech & Chong and Harold & Kumar taught us that marijuana-related humor can be actually, you know, funny.

Though, I've never smoked pot, so maybe I just don't understand.

GAT_00: He's gambling that he can get back to his Cy Young form and get a whole lot more in a couple of years. Big gamble though. He should have taken the $100M and been happy.

Somebody pointed out that he's watched Barry Zito deal with the psychological baggage and high expectations of having a huge long-term deal ever since he signed with the Giants and figured it's not worth the drama.

I don't think he's really gambling with future earnings so much as keeping his options open while not having to change anything right now and still getting paid a large amount of guaranteed cash. I bet he's be pretty happy with this deal as it is.

greedy bastard

BIG TIME TIMMY JIM!

/AKA Mitch Kramer

bukketmaster: GAT_00: He's gambling that he can get back to his Cy Young form and get a whole lot more in a couple of years. Big gamble though. He should have taken the $100M and been happy.

Somebody pointed out that he's watched Barry Zito deal with the psychological baggage and high expectations of having a huge long-term deal ever since he signed with the Giants and figured it's not worth the drama.

I don't think he's really gambling with future earnings so much as keeping his options open while not having to change anything right now and still getting paid a large amount of guaranteed cash. I bet he's be pretty happy with this deal as it is.

he said something to this effect in an interview i saw in the chronicle last year. sort of saying that long term contracts actually put more pressure on you since if things start going bad but you're still makin the big bucks it just makes for bad vibes all around.

GAT_00: DiRF: most marijuana humor out there simply boils down to "HAR HAR I'M REFERENCING POT HAR HAR"

Stoners aren't known for their creativity beyond finding new ways to smoke pot.

bukketmaster: Somebody pointed out that he's watched Barry Zito deal with the psychological baggage and high expectations of having a huge long-term deal ever since he signed with the Giants and figured it's not worth the drama.

Interesting view. He's never really struck me as the sort to struggle like that, but I think he actually would feel bad about letting the team down.

Yeah no creative stoners. farking musicians, authors and artist hate that shiat,

dholway: ac982000: so subby realizes that 2/40.5 is a high per year salary than 5/100 right?

So, to gain 500K, he left $60 million guaranteed on the table. (He could blow out his shoulder in spring training and be forced to survive on a mere $40 million.)

Maybe he wants the flexibility to leave San Francisco in two years if he isn't happy with the direction of the franchise at that point.

Rozotorical:
Yeah no creative stoners. farking musicians, authors and artist hate that shiat,

heroin is popular for them though

Jesus Christ people, I've never even smelled marijuana and I get the farkin joke.

/thick as bricks some of you

Rozotorical: Yeah no creative stoners. farking musicians, authors and artist hate that shiat,

I did bring up some people that I feel actually manage to be funny regarding marijuana, but I honestly feel that someone is intrinsically creative or they aren't. A drug won't magically make someone creative out of the blue... some people believe that a drug brings out more of their natural creativity, and there's the possibility that that's true... or it could just be a placebo effect.

The Smails Kid: BIG TIME TIMMY JIM!

/AKA Mitch Kramer

*covers nose with hand*

neuroflare: The Smails Kid: BIG TIME TIMMY JIM!

/AKA Mitch Kramer

*covers nose with hand*

MOOOOOOMMMM!!!!

dholway: ac982000: so subby realizes that 2/40.5 is a high per year salary than 5/100 right?

So, to gain 500K, he left $60 million guaranteed on the table. (He could blow out his shoulder in spring training and be forced to survive on a mere $40 million.)

He signed the contract because he is locked into the giants for 2 more years, meaning they own him for 2 more years and he cant leave without a trade, and his complaints just go to arbitration instead of a contract.

Basically he got the most he could for two more years then at the end of those two years he will sign a $200 million/4 year deal, hes not a dumb pot head.

lacrossestar83: HEY GUYS MARIJUANA

See, it's funny because Tim Lincecum looks like a stereotypical stoner.

Subtard never fails to disappoint.

/you're a goddamned moron

I've been smoking weed the same 2 or 3 ways for 35 years. Have I been doing it wrong?

"I just don't know how I'm going to feel five years from now, or three years. That's why I'd kind of like to take things step by step and this deal is my best option for getting into a Yankee jersey as soon as possible."

DiRF: A drug won't magically make someone creative out of the blue...

Actually, certain drugs will heighten creativity and imagination; no placebo effect, it has to do with chemicals and related brain activity. Of course, hypothermia and Alzheimer's heighten creativity, if you want to get technical...

GOOD creativity? That's always a judgment call.

LemSkroob: "I just don't know how I'm going to feel five years from now, or three years. That's why I'd kind of like to take things step by step and this deal is my best option for getting into a Yankee jersey as soon as possible."

I doubt he'd go to the Yankees, because I think he would rather not have such a spotlight. Who knows, though...

I'd just imagine him staying somewhere on the west coast, or close thereto.

IlGreven: lacrossestar83: HEY GUYS MARIJUANA

See, it's funny because Tim Lincecum looks like a stereotypical stoner.

No, it's funny because Lincecum was cited for possession in Centralia (or Chehalis?) Wa. last year.

lol. People still watch baseball. This is about baseball, right? I saw something about the Wankees.

waiting for farkers to come in and say that he should be paying 95% of that back in taxes.... after all, if he were the head of a productive enterprise earning the same, they would be calling for it...

steamingpile: dholway: ac982000: so subby realizes that 2/40.5 is a high per year salary than 5/100 right?

So, to gain 500K, he left $60 million guaranteed on the table. (He could blow out his shoulder in spring training and be forced to survive on a mere $40 million.)

He signed the contract because he is locked into the giants for 2 more years, meaning they own him for 2 more years and he cant leave without a trade, and his complaints just go to arbitration instead of a contract.

Basically he got the most he could for two more years then at the end of those two years he will sign a $200 million/4 year deal, hes not a dumb pot head.

Eh...the numbers don't really add up.

The highest paid starting pitchers are CC sabathia, Johan Santana, and Roy halladay...(getting $24 mil, $21 mil, and $20 mil)...

Lincecum is 27 years old (turning 28 in june)...so this contract takes him to 29 (turning 30 during the first year of his next contract).

Teams are not going to want to pay a 29/30 year old past 35...so he's only really looking at a 5-6 year contract (unless multiple teams get involved and decide to overspend in dollars and years..looking at you NY Yankees)...so realistically he's looking at about $24-$25 million over 5-6 years....or $120-$150 million.

Add on his current contract($40 mill)...he'll have earned $160-190 million by the time he turns 35/36...But this is assuming he doesn't get hurt and keeps pitching well for the next 2 years. (those are a couple of big "ifs")

Obviously I don't know what went on during negotiations...but suppose he said I want $21 million over 8 years plus incentives. This contract takes him to age 35/36 (same age as before) but he's now guaranteed himself around $170 million. Technically it's a little bit less that hsi theoretical total....but it's a sure thing right now. It's a done deal. He doesn't have to stay healthy and pitch well for 2 more years...he just needs to make it SF and stay healthy enough for the physical.


/that's my two cents

proteus_b: waiting for farkers to come in and say that he should be paying 95% of that back in taxes.... after all, if he were the head of a productive enterprise earning the same, they would be calling for it...

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proteus_b: waiting for farkers to come in and say that he should be paying 95% of that back in taxes.... after all, if he were the head of a productive enterprise earning the same, they would be calling for it...

fark it, I'll bite. I got a nice wake and bake going:

Who the fark said anything about a 95 pct tax rate? Those are Eisenhower rates right there, and we all know how terrible things were under Eisenhower, right?

MFAWG: proteus_b: waiting for farkers to come in and say that he should be paying 95% of that back in taxes.... after all, if he were the head of a productive enterprise earning the same, they would be calling for it...

fark it, I'll bite. I got a nice wake and bake going:

Who the fark said anything about a 95 pct tax rate? Those are Eisenhower rates right there, and we all know how terrible things were under Eisenhower, right?

>Nearly 11AM
>"Wake and bake"