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2012-01-26 07:30:23 PM  

trappedspirit: If this is heading toward recruiting people for the weird religion you made up the worships Henry Ford, go ahead and sign me up.


"Ford, we are twelve; oh make us one, Like drops within the Social River; Oh, make us now together run As swiftly as thy shining Flivver. Come, Greater Being, Social Friend, Annihilating Twelve-in-One! We long to die, for when we end, Our larger life has but begun."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 5
 
2012-01-26 07:37:14 PM  

CamasFlash: Big_Fat_Liar: I wish my penis was bigger.

Me too.

/Mine, not yours.


Not me. Mine's just find but my sac is dropping every year so that is literally a growing concern. If it drops anymore I might need a longer pipe just to keep things in proportion. I guess I'd go for a longer penis just for the sake of long term planning but a bag tuck would be ideal.
 
2012-01-26 07:39:50 PM  

teeny: Nor does Stewart elevate himself as a "job creator"


Oddly enough, Stewart actually IS a job creator. I don't think I've seen him call himself that, but he does employ a lot of people.
 
2012-01-26 07:44:08 PM  

royone: I'm saying you are arguing with your instinct more than your head, and that's not going to be sufficient to come up with a real solution.


Well I just showed you that many many people in the middle class are paying a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney, an ultra-wealthy guy since birth who makes his money simply by moving his large wealth around. I provided citations to verify this argument. It's reasonable to assume that the people who currently pay a higher tax rate than Romney are highly skilled, highly educated people, who worked hard to get where they are and continue to work hard to stay there, since it takes that type of professional to be in the fourth income quintile.

You are sitting there saying "well waitaminnit, it may be that Romney is paying a fair tax rate, even though I agree that his rate is lower than those middle class people." And you say I'm the one arguing with instinct more than my head? Yeah ok. You can pretend to be superior and throw insults around, but the truth is you've offered nothing but a pathetic defense of a clearly unfair tax policy that disproportionately benefits the ultra-wealthy over the middle class.
 
2012-01-26 07:44:22 PM  
Diogenes:

Has Stewart lobbied against tax reform? No? Then STFU.

.

Has Stewart given more of his money to the government than he is forced to by the tax code? No, of course not. Anyone who worries about what other people do with their money should STFU and concentrate on earning more instead of spewing class warfare idiocy.
 
2012-01-26 07:45:49 PM  

pwhp_67: Mikey1969: CB29: I'm a poor Republican. I was a big liberal for a long time (worked in low income medical field) and got tired of watching people just sit on their butts and expect things to be handed to them. And eventually, they got everything- food stamps, medicaid- you name it. All while I worked my butt off. I stopped believing in helping everyone then. I got tired of these social programs that readily hand out free food, phones, health care to immigrants and chronic breeders, but my little sister who readily works while living with serious health issues cannot qualify for these things because she was born in America and hasn't popped out 14 kids.

So what's with the whole non sequitir thing you have going on here? Alzheimer's kicking in, or you just trolling?


What I read is that his sister doesn't make much money, needs medical care she can't afford, and isn't getting much help from the government.

So he's decided to join the party that wants to eliminate the programs that do exist instead of joining the party that wants to expand them to people like his sister.

So he's not only a dick here on FARK but he's a dick to his family too...


Wow- you claissify a dick as someone who disagrees with your political opinions. That's so open minded of you.
 
2012-01-26 07:50:49 PM  

Mikey1969: Ablejack: Liberals also have no problem with rich people who make money simply by shoving it around either . The idea that "hard work makes your money somehow more pure" is not the point at all. After all, Warren Buffet doesn't break his back in a mill or a field (like his son the dirt farmer does).

Ahhhhh, once again, the point is missed entirely. the problem here is Romeny's whining about how he is paying so MUCH money. Buffet on the other hand says he pays FAR TOO LITTLE. I do have more respect for people who are rich and started from a normal position, as opposed to those who had daddy's money, but that's an argument for a different time.

And conservatives think liberals act like they are "entitled"...


Are you trying to argue with me or agree?
/ No one knows.
 
2012-01-26 07:53:11 PM  
Remember, kids, it's not how much money you make, but how you make it.

Jon Stewart makes millions by making people laugh.
 
2012-01-26 08:01:59 PM  

koder: Remember, kids, it's not how much money you make, but how you make it.

Jon Stewart makes millions by making people laugh.


GOP politicians, Fox News and idiots in general create all the source materiel used to make people laugh. They deserve an equal amount of credit as Stewart. The only reason Stewart sees so far is because stands on the shoulders of giants. Giant assholes
 
2012-01-26 08:22:56 PM  
This is outrageous. Peyton Manning gets a $28M bonus, but $15M for Jon Stewart? Peyton Manning offers humorous insight into political issues on a daily basis. Peyton comes to work every day and has to make people laugh, rain or shine. Jon Stewart plays 17 or 18 football games per year. What does that add to the US? So yeah, Stewart is way overpaid.
 
2012-01-26 08:25:34 PM  
Was there a purge I wasn't aware of? None of the usual suspects on my ignore list showed up and only a handful of the favorited recent trolls showed but several new names I've never seen appear out of nowhere, some a few years old, some a few months old, but all with blank portfolios. With the exact same missing-the-point rhetoric.

/Sometimes I read these more for the trolling meta aspect than for the actual content.
 
2012-01-26 08:28:34 PM  

Spartan_Manhandler: Ablejack: Liberals also have no problem with rich people who make money simply by shoving it around either . The idea that "hard work makes your money somehow more pure" is not the point at all. After all, Warren Buffet doesn't break his back in a mill or a field (like his son the dirt farmer does).

The difference is that Buffett isn't claiming that he's "unemployed" and "just like the rest of us" and that's why he should continue to pay a lower tax rate than the rest of us.


Here we go again... Am I being unclear here? I claimed that "earning" or "working" for "wages" does not make any money more deserved. I wrote that comment because so many others previously stated that the difference is that Stewart has to go to work for his money or some nonsense. These good farkers felt they were somehow defending Stewart's honor I imagine. As if Jon's money were excused their mittriole. But I think they are "not helping".
I used Buffett as an example of a kindly old liberal fella that doesn't bust his balls for the man and yet; We liberals like him and his ideas.
I don't even have any problem with Mitt "Mormon-y more problems" Romney's money or dealings either. I trust it's all legal. THAT it's legal and that Governor Romney is fighting to keep it that way is my issue as well.
/or maybe I'm just thin-skinned and you were just agreeing with me after all.
 
2012-01-26 08:29:46 PM  
I'm closer to conservative than to liberal, yet i have no problem with him raking in the bucks. TV is a business. His show is watched. Whether or not i agree with his viewpoints, i agree that he should be compensated for viewership.
 
2012-01-26 08:32:23 PM  

ayrsayle: Was there a purge I wasn't aware of? None of the usual suspects on my ignore list showed up and only a handful of the favorited recent trolls showed but several new names I've never seen appear out of nowhere, some a few years old, some a few months old, but all with blank portfolios. With the exact same missing-the-point rhetoric.

/Sometimes I read these more for the trolling meta aspect than for the actual content.


I've often suspected that a blank profile is a more conservative trait.
 
2012-01-26 08:45:15 PM  
jon stewart makes me laugh so he can have all the moneys he wantz
 
2012-01-26 08:45:55 PM  
1) There was a whole lot of conjecture and "probably" in there.
2) Jon Stewart lives under the same tax laws, he owes whatever he owes.
3) Stewart isn't campaigning for lower taxes for capital gains, or even to keep the rates we have.
4) Even if he were a hypocrite, hypocrisy doesn't invalidate his argument.

So yeah... aside from the fact that Stewart isn't much like Romney except for that they both live under the same tax laws, being a hypocrite isn't the worse thing you can be. It is possible to not follow your own good advice -- that doesn't suddenly make it bad advice.
 
2012-01-26 08:52:16 PM  

royone: Which countries with universal healthcare tell patients "You don't get treatment"?
All of them.


How is that different from our system?
 
2012-01-26 08:58:28 PM  
I've never understood the American fascination with sucking the cawk of people with a lot of money.

For a nation that happily bleats about its freedoms and has a fetishistic attachment to the *spirit of liberty* that engendered its birth, you people sure have a disproportionate fixation about trashing notions of equality.

Rich people are not *better* than other people. They are richer. And this is more often an action of circumstance than some TV-themed rags to riches/48 hour working day fantasy.
 
2012-01-26 09:21:32 PM  

cegorach: I've never understood the American fascination with sucking the cawk of people with a lot of money.

For a nation that happily bleats about its freedoms and has a fetishistic attachment to the *spirit of liberty* that engendered its birth, you people sure have a disproportionate fixation about trashing notions of equality.

Rich people are not *better* than other people. They are richer. And this is more often an action of circumstance than some TV-themed rags to riches/48 hour working day fantasy.


Australia is America Jr, stop pretending to be different.
 
2012-01-26 09:24:36 PM  
I just don't think Jon Stewart is funny or interesting. If there was a federal tax on snarky douchebags, Jon Stewart would undoubtedly be in the 99%. I'm also not a fan of Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, Newt Gingrich or Stephen Colbert.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to walk into town to buy turnips.
 
2012-01-26 09:25:10 PM  

Novart: cegorach: I've never understood the American fascination with sucking the cawk of people with a lot of money.

For a nation that happily bleats about its freedoms and has a fetishistic attachment to the *spirit of liberty* that engendered its birth, you people sure have a disproportionate fixation about trashing notions of equality.

Rich people are not *better* than other people. They are richer. And this is more often an action of circumstance than some TV-themed rags to riches/48 hour working day fantasy.

Australia is America Jr, stop pretending to be different.


Our nation was FOUNDED on criminality. We didn't need to make an effort to pretend it is something other than it is like you people do.
 
2012-01-26 09:29:59 PM  

cegorach: Novart: cegorach: I've never understood the American fascination with sucking the cawk of people with a lot of money.

For a nation that happily bleats about its freedoms and has a fetishistic attachment to the *spirit of liberty* that engendered its birth, you people sure have a disproportionate fixation about trashing notions of equality.

Rich people are not *better* than other people. They are richer. And this is more often an action of circumstance than some TV-themed rags to riches/48 hour working day fantasy.

Australia is America Jr, stop pretending to be different.

Our nation was FOUNDED on criminality. We didn't need to make an effort to pretend it is something other than it is like you people do.



Oh yeah? Then why do you pretend to have Christmas in the summer?
 
2012-01-26 09:38:26 PM  

cegorach: Our nation was FOUNDED on criminality. We didn't need to make an effort to pretend it is something other than it is like you people do.


funny thing is, our country was founded on tax evasion.
 
2012-01-26 09:59:41 PM  

Ablejack: cegorach: Our nation was FOUNDED on criminality. We didn't need to make an effort to pretend it is something other than it is like you people do.

funny thing is, our country was founded on tax evasion.


A good point. That and religious crazy times. Oh well, carry on then.

Lord_Baull: cegorach: Novart: cegorach: I've never understood the American fascination with sucking the cawk of people with a lot of money.

For a nation that happily bleats about its freedoms and has a fetishistic attachment to the *spirit of liberty* that engendered its birth, you people sure have a disproportionate fixation about trashing notions of equality.

Rich people are not *better* than other people. They are richer. And this is more often an action of circumstance than some TV-themed rags to riches/48 hour working day fantasy.

Australia is America Jr, stop pretending to be different.

Our nation was FOUNDED on criminality. We didn't need to make an effort to pretend it is something other than it is like you people do.


Oh yeah? Then why do you pretend to have Christmas in the summer?


Also a good point.
 
2012-01-26 10:02:57 PM  

royone: nevirus: Does ANYONE think it's fair that ultra-rich people like Romney and Buffett pay less of their income in taxes than normal middle class people? If so, why?

Does anyone think it's true that ultra-rich people like Romney and Buffett pay less of their income in taxes than normal middle class people? If so, why?


So now just owning stock in a company that pays taxes implies that the shareholder is being taxed at the corporate rate? That's crazy. If "corporations are people" then what's wrong with taxing them separately from people? You can't have it both ways.
 
2012-01-26 10:28:07 PM  
Stewart, Buffet and Gates, just write a check to the Treasury and go back to making jokes, food and OS's.
 
2012-01-26 10:35:37 PM  

machoprogrammer: a show host that plays a funny clip, then just makes a stupid face, and then follows by explaining why it was funny


Oh, hey! A Joe Scarborough fan!
 
2012-01-26 10:40:50 PM  

Dogsbody: I just don't think Jon Stewart is funny or interesting. If there was a federal tax on snarky douchebags, Jon Stewart would undoubtedly be in the 99%. I'm also not a fan of Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, Newt Gingrich or Stephen Colbert.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to walk into town to buy turnips.


Please provide a list of parties you'll be attending so I may avoid them. Thank you.
 
2012-01-26 10:48:15 PM  
I was born into a Mormon family before I changed faiths after 13 years. And while I don't find fault with being rich and having money or doing whatever is legal to keep as much of it as possible, I do not care for Romney just on the fact he's seemingly a terrible christian and Mormon. The man shows a callous disregard for doing ethically upright things, making money by pilfering other companies, putting thousands out of jobs, and making morally bankrupt decisions soley based on greed it seems. That isn't the christian or Mormon way.

I'm now neither christian or Mormon, but it's not hard to recognize someone who has no moral fiber and stands for nothing but his wallet who'd sell me out at the drop of a hat. I don't think Obama is much better mind you, I'm praying that someone, anyone other than Newt or Romney runs. *sighs*
 
2012-01-26 10:48:46 PM  

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: Dogsbody: I just don't think Jon Stewart is funny or interesting. If there was a federal tax on snarky douchebags, Jon Stewart would undoubtedly be in the 99%. I'm also not a fan of Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, Newt Gingrich or Stephen Colbert.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to walk into town to buy turnips.

Please provide a list of parties you'll be attending so I may avoid them. Thank you.


I suggest avoiding both the Republican and Democratic Parties.
Neither has done anything for any of you.
Certainly nothing warranting your financial support.

if there is a 1% here, i am sure i am on ignor already
 
2012-01-26 10:50:11 PM  

Terrible Old Man: I was born into a Mormon family before I changed faiths after 13 years. And while I don't find fault with being rich and having money or doing whatever is legal to keep as much of it as possible, I do not care for Romney just on the fact he's seemingly a terrible christian and Mormon. The man shows a callous disregard for doing ethically upright things, making money by pilfering other companies, putting thousands out of jobs, and making morally bankrupt decisions soley based on greed it seems. That isn't the christian or Mormon way.

I'm now neither christian or Mormon, but it's not hard to recognize someone who has no moral fiber and stands for nothing but his wallet who'd sell me out at the drop of a hat. I don't think Obama is much better mind you, I'm praying that someone, anyone other than Newt or Romney runs. *sighs*


What do you like about Rick Scott?
 
2012-01-26 10:54:40 PM  
I like how they STILL don't get that it's not about being rich.

Uh huh. And, it's also not class warfare. Not at all. Yep.
 
2012-01-26 11:10:28 PM  

royone: Lando Lincoln: As does the US. So what's your point?

The US tells people they don't get treatment? We need less intrusive government.


American insurance companies tell that to their clients all the damn time. Where the hell have YOU been?
 
2012-01-26 11:17:40 PM  
So Mitt Romney makes insane amounts of money and now liberals are decrying "income inequality" in America. Well duh, the market sets the wages and a brilliant financial executive makes more than a drop-out. You want to be rich too? Why don't you go get an education, work your butt off and make some money that way! The Marxist rhetoric and blatant appeal to class envy is both shameful and un-American. Props to Romney for refusing to apologize for being successful!
 
2012-01-26 11:32:19 PM  

CB29: I'm a poor Republicancomplete idiot.


If you were good at anything, you would have succeeded by now. You had 8 years under Bush to succeed, you did not, therefore you are inferior. QED.
 
2012-01-26 11:36:33 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: I like how they STILL don't get that it's not about being rich.

Uh huh. And, it's also not class warfare. Not at all. Yep.


Oh the class war has been going on forever. And the rich have been winning big since the 70's.
 
2012-01-26 11:51:32 PM  

Ablejack: Am I being unclear here? I claimed that "earning" or "working" for "wages" does not make any money more deserved. I wrote that comment because so many others previously stated that the difference is that Stewart has to go to work for his money or some nonsense.


And yet, "working" for "wages" apparently must be less deserved, since it's being taxed at a higher rate than capital gains.

So, um, I'm not sure whether we're in agreement or not. This is the most ambiguous thread I've ever posted in. (I think the trolls won this one.)
 
2012-01-26 11:56:27 PM  

Terrible Old Man: I was born into a Mormon family before I changed faiths after 13 years. And while I don't find fault with being rich and having money or doing whatever is legal to keep as much of it as possible, I do not care for Romney just on the fact he's seemingly a terrible christian and Mormon. The man shows a callous disregard for doing ethically upright things, making money by pilfering other companies, putting thousands out of jobs, and making morally bankrupt decisions soley based on greed it seems. That isn't the christian or Mormon way.

I'm now neither christian or Mormon, but it's not hard to recognize someone who has no moral fiber and stands for nothing but his wallet who'd sell me out at the drop of a hat. I don't think Obama is much better mind you, I'm praying that someone, anyone other than Newt or Romney runs. *sighs*


Honest question: What do you believe about Obama that you feel this way about him?
 
2012-01-27 01:23:31 AM  
I didn't realize John Stewart argued for tax cuts for the wealthy, and placing the bulk of the tax burden on the middle/lower class.

I didn't know he claimed that all poor people are poor because they're lazy and they deserve to be poor.
 
2012-01-27 06:20:37 AM  

kingoomieiii: GWLush: That is like saying because I am white I can't criticize other whites for being racist.

Accusing whites of being racist is the truest racism.


Ummmmm... no.
 
2012-01-27 08:20:04 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: CB29: I'm a poor Republicancomplete idiot.

If you were good at anything, you would have succeeded by now. You had 8 years under Bush to succeed, you did not, therefore you are inferior. QED.


You make no sense. I'm doing just fine, no thanks to any President. You succeed based off who you are, not who is running the country. As for my little sister, she's in college, working and paying her bills without any help from your messiah.
 
2012-01-27 08:47:02 AM  

CB29: PC LOAD LETTER: CB29: I'm a poor Republicancomplete idiot.

If you were good at anything, you would have succeeded by now. You had 8 years under Bush to succeed, you did not, therefore you are inferior. QED.

You make no sense. I'm doing just fine, no thanks to any President. You succeed based off who you are, not who is running the country. As for my little sister, she's in college, working and paying her bills without any help from your messiah.


You are poor, therefore you are not doing fine. And you have no value in society either. Society is for the entrepreneurs.
 
2012-01-27 11:18:03 AM  

sonarbison: So Mitt Romney makes insane amounts of money and now liberals are decrying "income inequality" in America. Well duh, the market sets the wages and a brilliant financial executive makes more than a drop-out. You want to be rich too? Why don't you go get an education, work your butt off and make some money that way! The Marxist rhetoric and blatant appeal to class envy is both shameful and un-American. Props to Romney for refusing to apologize for being successful!


"...the market sets the wages..." Now THAT is funny. I thought it was a bunch of old men sitting around in a boardroom voting themselves and executives raises, then having shareholders vote against it but always losing because the board members have more folks/shares in their pockets than the peons. At least that is how the wages were set at the public companies I have worked for.

And in private companies??? The market??????? That is a riot...
 
2012-01-27 11:22:42 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: CB29: PC LOAD LETTER: CB29: I'm a poor Republicancomplete idiot.

If you were good at anything, you would have succeeded by now. You had 8 years under Bush to succeed, you did not, therefore you are inferior. QED.

You make no sense. I'm doing just fine, no thanks to any President. You succeed based off who you are, not who is running the country. As for my little sister, she's in college, working and paying her bills without any help from your messiah.

You are poor, therefore you are not doing fine. And you have no value in society either. Society is for the entrepreneurs.


Yeah, screw all the people that work for those entrepeneurs, they are just a bunch of pukes.
 
2012-01-27 11:37:14 AM  

Incansus: "...the market sets the wages..." Now THAT is funny. I thought it was a bunch of old men sitting around in a boardroom voting themselves and executives raises, then having shareholders vote against it but always losing because the board members have more folks/shares in their pockets than the peons.


you mean that the people who own most of the company get the most say in the company? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
 
2012-01-27 12:18:48 PM  
The only fair tax is a flat tax.
 
2012-01-27 01:45:55 PM  

purple helmet: The only fair tax is a flat tax.


How is that going to prevent Romney from making millions off capital gains and paying 15% or less? We have a system where once you get enough money, you can invest it, and distribute it across offshore accounts, and have a high priced accountant bend the rules to get every loop hole imaginable so that you never have to worry about working again, because your fortune perpetually grows and grows, and you don't have to pay (many) taxes on it.
 
2012-01-27 02:42:10 PM  

nevirus: royone: I'm saying you are arguing with your instinct more than your head, and that's not going to be sufficient to come up with a real solution.

Well I just showed you that many many people in the middle class are paying a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney


When you defined "middle class" as "top 10% of earners", yes, you showed me that. I don't find that to be a reasonable definition of "middle class".

an ultra-wealthy guy since birth who makes his money simply by moving his large wealth around.

So it's your contention that anybody could do this? Start with a big pile of money, and grow it? Risk-free? I tend to doubt that.

I provided citations to verify this argument. It's reasonable to assume that the people who currently pay a higher tax rate than Romney are highly skilled, highly educated people, who worked hard to get where they are and continue to work hard to stay there, since it takes that type of professional to be in the fourth income quintile.

They're in the top quintile, which is not the middle class. You have now changed the focus of your argument to be something along the lines of "Mitt doesn't deserve his money because others work harder for their money." Are you proposing that there be a provision in the tax code that measures how hard people worked for money, and taxes them according to how easy it was for them to make the money? Or are you just spouting outrage that life isn't fair?

You can pretend to be superior and throw insults around

I didn't insult you, I gave an honest critique of your argument. It is lacking, and has all the hallmarks of working backward from a conclusion.

but the truth is you've offered nothing but a pathetic defense of a clearly unfair tax policy that disproportionately benefits the ultra-wealthy over the middle class.

Please quote me where I defended the current tax policy. I don't think you can do so.
 
2012-01-27 02:43:39 PM  

Gawdzila: royone: Which countries with universal healthcare tell patients "You don't get treatment"?
All of them.

How is that different from our system?


Exactly. Same problem. Nothing solved. Thank you for confirming my point.
 
2012-01-27 02:46:20 PM  

czei: So now just owning stock in a company that pays taxes implies that the shareholder is being taxed at the corporate rate? That's crazy. If "corporations are people" then what's wrong with taxing them separately from people? You can't have it both ways.


If you're going to count Social Security taxes, including the employer's contribution, as part of the employee's tax burden (and that is how burden is calculated), then you also have to count the taxes paid on behalf of rich people in their tax burden. If you don't, it is you who want to have it both ways.

Get it?
 
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